The Sweep...we will receive alot of those this year.

eckie1

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They are a hell of a lot better than we are and we've had our chances to take games all weekend.
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BriantheDawg

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whether you want to admit it or not. Not knowing when to pull a pitcher is coaching. Getting thrown out repeatedly trying to get the extra base is coaching. Getting into run-down after run-down is coaching. There is a difference in being aggressive and being a complete cluster-@%++-looking little league team. And that boils down to coaching.
 

weblow

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rugbdawg said:
Wow we suck.

I think you have made it clear that we suck this year in baseball. I think you have made that clear numerous times in the past few days. Thanks, I think we got it now.
 

Paper Dog

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Last year, the worst MSU team in the last 25 years only suffered TWO SWEEPS the entire year

Now, last year's team with a much better pitcher (Nick Routt is his name) and a NEW coaching staff

No, there will not be a lot of sweeps....a lot of thought put into it would tell you that
 

8dog

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and not pulling crosswhite didn't cost us the series. Not having players and playing a team that is very talented did.

You saw what happened as soon as he pulled crosswhite.

Like I said, we just don't have anyone you can trust out of the pen.
 

JacksonDevilDog

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Cohen will play his way and his way only. We have guys that haven't been asked to leg out **** the whole time they've been here. For example, Butler had 3 doubles against Valpo and got thrown out twice stretching it to third. We need depth and talent. When that gets here, you'll see better execution of these things.
 

Croomp

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Cohen's aggressive style actually saved us a base runner in the top of the 9th with that argument with the ump.
 

BriantheDawg

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it's just that most on here want to say "Polk left us in bad shape.." "Polk did this.., Polk did that.." "God we suck, Thanks Polk.."

And while yes, it's true, our talent is not where we all want it to be and we pretty much suck because of it, some of the **** I've seen out of this team is mind-boggling. I have NEVER seen a team get thrown out running the base paths as this one does. NEVER. Not buddy ball. Not little league. Not high school and certainly not college. Agressiveness is not supposed to equal complete stupidity. When your talent level is sub-par, you need to play a little smarter - which we certainly are not doing. This is on Cohen.

And when your pitcher is getting shelled and looks like complete *** in doing it, that means it's time to pull his ***. Period.
 

BriantheDawg

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I can argue all day about us getting thrown out like we do though. It's cost us much more than you think it has.
 

basedog

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Putting in a dud for another dud =dud. Cohen is know to have a quick hook, but when he looks down to the bullpen I'm sure he's saying "oh ****"! He'll get it right, but not this year, I imagine you'll need a program to know who the new players will be.
 

dawgoneyall

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baseball to learn how to play agressive baseball. Takes time to get the station to station out of the system.
 

BriantheDawg

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but we had 1st & 2nd with 1 out and dude bolts for 3rd on a pitch in the ground that clearly wasn't getting away from the catcher. He gets thrown out and the very next pitch, the pitcher strikes out our batter, ending the inning. It was a complete momentum killer. We went from 2 on and 1 out, to taking the field for the bottom of the inning. We may not have done anything with the inning but it was a definite momentum killer. And when you're a little less talented, as we obviously are, you can't be making these mistakes and expect to win.
 

sixpackmafia

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f'ing idiot.....you are what is wrong with our fan base......"oh, theyre ranked really high, so its ok to lose".....
 

8dog

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your statement is funny:

"And when you're a little less talented, as we obviously are, you can't be making these mistakes and expect to win."

When you are less talented, you have to be agressive. Sitting back on our heels is a recipe for losing.

Let me ask you this, what do you think was the reason Cohen won 7 games his first 2 years at KY: Agressiveness or Lack of talent?
 

RonnyAtmosphere

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...allows 2 more sweeps.

Cohen wasn't hired to conduct a Croom-esque 10 year re-building program.

He was hired to work a quick turnaround like he did @ UK.

This baseball team is bad, but they are not 3-sweeps-in-one-season bad.

One more sweep is a red flag.

Two more sweeps & you'll have to begin questioning the hiring of Cohen.
 

RobertF50

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f'ing idiot.....you are what is wrong with our fan base......"oh, theyre ranked really high, so its ok to lose"..

So if we are patient with the new coach instead of crying like a ***** we're idiots? We were in every game we played this weekend and I wanted us to win all of them. What you're saying is we should ***** and moan and cry like bitches if it takes a while to rebuild the program or we're idiots. Count me in. I don't mind being called an idiot by a fool.
 

eckie1

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How in the hell would you get the gibberish that you posted from what I said? I said he had chances to win every game. UGA is just a hell of a lot better than us.

Post less and die.</p>
 

rugbdawg

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are better at EVERY single position. In fact, they should probably sweep us. If they don't, they should be disappointed.

Let's put it this way. With the "talent" we have, I was much more surprised we won the series against an average SEC team like South Carolina than getting swept by Georgia.

There is nothing wrong with saying we suck and there is nothing we can do about it. Our players are TERRIBLE.</p>

Should we fire Mullen next year if we only win 3 or 4 games? Of course not. WITHIN THE SEC, TALENT WISE, we are as weak if not weaker in baseball than in football.</p>
 

BriantheDawg

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a dumbass. Getting caught stealing is one thing. It happens. Getting into a run-down every other game or so and getting thrown out trying to get the extra base when it's clearly not there is another. I love the way we are aggressive: hitting & running, bunting guys over, stealing to get into scoring position, etc.. but we also have gotten thrown out way too much trying to get the extra base when it's not there and by getting into these run-downs every game or so. To me, there is a difference.
 

RonnyAtmosphere

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...1st thing, Arkansas & Ole Miss are not as good as UGA.

You know how many games UGA had lost coming into the MSU series? A grand total of 2. Maybe that's why they are ranked in the top 5 in the country.

2nd, if not for a pitching meltdown after we had the lead, we would have gone 1-2 vs. UGA.

3rd, Ole Miss proved today they have weak Sunday pitching. There is no excuse to get swept by OM this year.

4th, UPig is obviovusly good this year, but MSU usually plays well @ UPig. Winning one game is not out of the question. In fact, it's a must unless Cohen want to start hearing some grumbling.

Lastly, Cohen was hired to win, so he needs to start winning. That's the bottom line. Enough with the excuses.
 

Paper Dog

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And at the most, I do mean most, next weekend in Fayetteville is the only time it should happen......

Again last year, a 23-33 team was only swept twice
 

DawgatAuburn

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In this corner we have MState should win 30 games in hoops next year by Coach.

In this corner we have we should fire Cohen if we are swept three times this year by Ronny.

In this corner we have MSU's SECT victory over LSU was in large part because it was meaningless for LSU by Stallion.

In this corner we have Fishwater.

In this corner we have all we need is Robert Odem or someone to fall out of a tree to be a top 10 team by Pot Liquor.

How many corners will we need?????
 

mcfly.sixpack

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Whitney and Nick pitched great on friday and saturday. In those games we left 24 men on base and outhit georgia friday night. They are ranked in the top 5 in 3 polls and have a very good team. With the talent Cohen has and the lack of a bullpen to have us ranked 25 coming into the weekend is a miracle in itself. Cohen will be fine he did turn a tradition poor kentucky to win the sec. We'll be back in omaha soon don't pull the fire Cohen card this soon.
 

8dog

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and you do realize that often times, our agressiveness works to our advantage. You are falling victim to the 90/10 rule to an extent.
 
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Toag Redloh

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It's one thing if this was actually the woe is MSU mentality, but it's not. It's reality. Polk really screwed us over.
 

Coach33.sixpack

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then change your signature.

If you are so serious about not liking him then don't thank Byrne for hiring him. Simple as that. By the way your an idiot on thinking these losses were coaching.
 

weblow

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RonnyAtmosphere said:
...allows 2 more sweeps.

Cohen wasn't hired to conduct a Croom-esque 10 year re-building program.

He was hired to work a quick turnaround like he did @ UK.

This baseball team is bad, but they are not 3-sweeps-in-one-season bad.

One more sweep is a red flag.

Two more sweeps & you'll have to begin questioning the hiring of Cohen.

This is the most ignorant thing I have ever read on this website, and that is saying something.

Now I am sure you will follow this up with calling me an idiot or telling me to shut my piehole but, you have no clue what the hell you are talking about, and that folks, is the problem with our fanbase.
 

OEMDawg

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Don't forget. Atmosqueer was also the one that said Cohen would lead us to the CWS 3-4 times in his first nine seasons. I guess he better get to work after this year, huh???
 

HD6

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Arkansas and Ole Miss are as good as UGA. They said Ole Miss and Arkansas, like UGA, are better than us at every position.
 

Croomp

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DawgatAuburn said:
In this corner we have MState should win 30 games in hoops next year by Coach.

In this corner we have we should fire Cohen if we are swept three times this year by Ronny.

In this corner we have MSU's SECT victory over LSU was in large part because it was meaningless for LSU by Stallion.

In this corner we have Fishwater.

In this corner we have all we need is Robert Odem or someone to fall out of a tree to be a top 10 team by Pot Liquor.

How many corners will we need?????
 

hatfieldms

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RonnyAtmosphere said:
...allows 2 more sweeps.

Cohen wasn't hired to conduct a Croom-esque 10 year re-building program.

He was hired to work a quick turnaround like he did @ UK.

This baseball team is bad, but they are not 3-sweeps-in-one-season bad.

One more sweep is a red flag.

Two more sweeps & you'll have to begin questioning the hiring of Cohen.
Now this is taking dumb to a whole new level. Fired? really? Do you not realize just how stupid you sound? Cohen wasn't brought in for a quick fix. These are none of his players, and they sucked last year yet you suspect him to turn it around in less than a season? Hell, even Cohen himself said it would take a couple of seasons to get where he wants to be. This thread is all the proof I need to know you don't know **** about baseball