Wonder if Fox trots out Holly Sonders for this one? They paid her enough to come to Fox so might as well use her.
The United States Open golf thread
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http://nypost.com/2015/06/14/ridiculous-complete-farce-golfers-blast-us-open-course/ Differing thoughts from golfers on Chambers Bay.
Talking about courses. I played The K Club in Ireland yesterday and it was not in good shape at all. I was disappointed it was not kept up well. I guess I'm spoiled by the American courses we all take for granted.
Phil finished with 65 at Memphis yesterday for T3. He may be formidable this week searching for his first US Open.
So I get to listen to Joe Buck scream at me??? Crap. I'm interested in hearing Greg Norman though.
Layout means it will need a 'hell of a lot of luck', says 2011 Masters champion who added that the tournament would be won in over par
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Charl Schwartzel clearly did not receive the memo from Jack Nicklaus warning the players not to moan about this controversial US Open layout. But the 2011 Masters champion’s tirade on the man-made “links” could just be what the rest are thinking. When asked for his impressions about the course, Schwartzel replied: “Ummm, not sure. Is it a golf course?”
Certainly, America’s national championship has never seen anything quite like it. Built on a gravel pit only eight years ago, Robert Trent Jones’s creation has a wondrous setting on the Puget Sound, a sea inlet in the Pacific North West. Yet while it definitely has the “wow” factor, Schwartzel is clearly of the opinion it has the “ow” factor as well.
“I think it’s a course that involves a hell of a lot of luck,” Schwartzel said. “You don’t only win by luck of course; you need to hit good shots. But most guys aren’t of the mindset to be able to shoot the scores you’re going to see here and remain focused.
“I think you will see a tournament won in over par, especially if it stays like this. If you get off on the wrong foot on Thursday, the hardest thing is going to be to accept what is going to happen out there.”
Certainly, America’s national championship has never seen anything quite like it. Built on a gravel pit only eight years ago, Robert Trent Jones’s creation has a wondrous setting on the Puget Sound, a sea inlet in the Pacific North West. Yet while it definitely has the “wow” factor, Schwartzel is clearly of the opinion it has the “ow” factor as well.
“I think it’s a course that involves a hell of a lot of luck,” Schwartzel said. “You don’t only win by luck of course; you need to hit good shots. But most guys aren’t of the mindset to be able to shoot the scores you’re going to see here and remain focused.
“I think you will see a tournament won in over par, especially if it stays like this. If you get off on the wrong foot on Thursday, the hardest thing is going to be to accept what is going to happen out there.”
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It seems to me that Chambers Bay is simply a lengthened links course like you see in England/Scotland/Ireland. The complaining by some of the players is making them look small IMO.
I will go ahead and take Jason Day to win this even though i will not be surprised if its a relative no name.
I think Tiger will make the cut and finish top 25. I know most will take that bet but the fairways are relatively generous so he wont have to hit as many drivers and he can avoid chipping for the most part by having long putts. Regardless of what he does this course suits what little game he has right now. His longer iron game and putting have been fine which i think come more into play this week.
I think Tiger will make the cut and finish top 25. I know most will take that bet but the fairways are relatively generous so he wont have to hit as many drivers and he can avoid chipping for the most part by having long putts. Regardless of what he does this course suits what little game he has right now. His longer iron game and putting have been fine which i think come more into play this week.
http://www.golfchannel.com/media/how-chambers-bay-went-gravel-pit-us-open-host/
Good video on the history of the course and how it got to host the US Open. Worth 15 minutes of your time.
Good video on the history of the course and how it got to host the US Open. Worth 15 minutes of your time.
Phil could really make some noise this week. What a story it would be!!! I still like my dark horse pick of Brooks Koepka. Others Dark Horses are Finau, Kisner, and Hoffman. Highly ranked golfers: Furyk and Spieth (caddy knows the course very well and Jordan has experience there).
Some players have already given themselves no chance by bitching and complaining about the course. As Jack used to say, just less competition for me.
I think this may be how Phil is viewing this. This seems to be a course you will have to think your way around, something that may be in Phil's wheelhouse.
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/days-observations-tiger-janzen-returns-us-open-015801600--golf.html Jason Day thoughts on Tiger after they played practice rounds together this week.
All the players ask for is a course where great shots are rewarded and poor shots are penalized. They don't feel like that is the case this week. Players have told media that the greens are so bad that great putts can be knocked offline and bad putts can hit something and go in.
Same thing for drives and approaches. Two players could hit identical shots that land 6" from each other in the fairway. One bounces one way, the other bounces the other.
After looking more at the course and hearing all of the comments I honestly have zero clue who is going to win this thing. My guess is because of the difficulty of the course and magnitude of it all, it will probably be someone who has won a major before. I will still go with Rory (although he was a disaster a few weeks ago), but I can see a small group of guys like Rose, Simpson, Spieth, maybe Phil, and a few others who know how to win on tough courses be in contention on Sunday.
Phil is probably the most creative and has the best imagination around the greens of anyone right now and that is going to be important on the greens this course offers. I also think who wins will need to be very fit as the walk around this course is exhausting (even Tiger says its a rough walk) and will take its toll on the guys who are less fit. Winning score may very well be over par, but I guess will be in the -3 to +1 range. I will be surprised if someone scores really well.
Phil is probably the most creative and has the best imagination around the greens of anyone right now and that is going to be important on the greens this course offers. I also think who wins will need to be very fit as the walk around this course is exhausting (even Tiger says its a rough walk) and will take its toll on the guys who are less fit. Winning score may very well be over par, but I guess will be in the -3 to +1 range. I will be surprised if someone scores really well.
He said they were lucky to have two different winds when i heard him talk. Why would he would complain over seeing a golf course with different wind directions. That's what anyone wants to be prepared.
I'm rooting for Chambers Bay this weekend. Some of these pussies need their bell rung a little bit.
Me too. Bout time there was another Massacre at Winged Foot.
Learning breaks, bunkers and Bob Barker: A morning with Tiger Woods and Jordan Spieth
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Tiger Woods dropped golf balls from about chest high and watched them bounce and roll. He was testing how the ball reacts on Chambers Bay’s fourth green.
“It’s like the old (“Plinko”) game from the Price is Right: ‘Plink! Plink! Plink!” the now-39-year-old Woods said, playfully pantomiming drop and sounds to his playing partner during Tuesday’s second practice round for the 115th U.S. Open, Jordan Spieth.
The 21-year-old Masters champion had no idea who Bob Barker was.
Woods about ate his putter.
“The Price is Right?” the former world No. 1 said, his voice rising incredulously. “Bob Barker?
“He’s not that young, is he?” Woods asked others on the green of the current world No. 2. They were out of earshot of the growing gallery well up the dune beyond the green that had no idea a Bob Barker discussion was going on between two of the world’s most famous golfers.
“He thinks he’s from ‘Happy Gilmore,’” Woods said of Spieth. “C’mon, man!
“This is when you know you are old.”
“It’s like the old (“Plinko”) game from the Price is Right: ‘Plink! Plink! Plink!” the now-39-year-old Woods said, playfully pantomiming drop and sounds to his playing partner during Tuesday’s second practice round for the 115th U.S. Open, Jordan Spieth.
The 21-year-old Masters champion had no idea who Bob Barker was.
Woods about ate his putter.
“The Price is Right?” the former world No. 1 said, his voice rising incredulously. “Bob Barker?
“He’s not that young, is he?” Woods asked others on the green of the current world No. 2. They were out of earshot of the growing gallery well up the dune beyond the green that had no idea a Bob Barker discussion was going on between two of the world’s most famous golfers.
“He thinks he’s from ‘Happy Gilmore,’” Woods said of Spieth. “C’mon, man!
“This is when you know you are old.”
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I think this is what players say they want... but they want more. They want to completely take the unknown/luck/bounce out of play while also not being punished for mediocre shots. A mediocre shot (first cut of rough/mid-iron into the wrong section of a green) rarely costs these guys on most tour courses. Great shots should absolutely be rewarded but most decent to mediocre shots are already overly rewarded. That won't seem to be the case this week and (to me) that's not a bad thing.
TIGER WOODS: Well, I think in order to win — well, to win any Major Championship, you’re going to have to be patient. This one in particular, because there are so many different variables, unlike any links golf that we play, we don’t have elevation changes like this. So that’s a variable that’s certainly very different. You’re going to get some funky bounces out there. The ball is going to roll and catch slopes. You’re going to see guys hit terrible golf shots and end up in kicking range from the hole. You’re going to see guys fire at the flag and get a good one and get a hard bounce and end up in a hard spot. I’m more curious to see how many guys hit sprinklers this week, because the sprinklers are literally sometimes six inches off the green. And some of the hole locations you’ll be firing — if you fire at it, you’re flying right over the top of sprinklers to land it. It will be interesting to see how many guys hit it or how page 2 of 5 many guys just roll the ball off the green and they’re on the steps or up against the steps, take a ruling, have to drop it in the bunker and have it buried. Now you’re going to have a lot of fun. You’re going to see some different things this week than you have probably any other Major Championship that we play.[/B][/B]
Tiger is so FOS when he talks baseline shifts in his swing change. He says he worked his *** off to get the results at Augusta, then why another baseline shift after? Basically, it's just excuses to get through this rough patch or the yips. BUT, that being said, of all the times he has been FOS, which are many, I can't blame him for not giving us the truth. Why would any golfer say things to feul the fire of the media and fans? You have to make excuses, you have to stay positive, for your own good as a golfer and your own mind frame. I don't buy the excuses and never have but I understand why he has to use them.