The University's Endowment has hit $1 Billion

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I am not referring to MSU at all, I am referring to University endowments nation wide, some of which are mind boggling huge. big ten schools, Ivy League. It’s ridiculous to me you can have a 10-30 billion dollar endowment and raising tuition on kids who are saddled with crippling debt. Tax free. Again I’m not referring to MSU, as Some schools do have endowments which are put to good use, supposedly.
I understand where you're coming from, but it's complicated by how much each state allocates in funding to its respective universities. For example, in MS, the IHL provides about 11% to each of the big 3 universities. 11% is peanuts. Currently more to MSU than the other two I think, but still not much. Because endowed funds are generally so restrictive, there's still a large gap between operating costs and income from state and foundations.

Colorado is similar but better funding numbers.

I don't know anything about Big Ten schools.
 
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I understand where you're coming from, but it's complicated by how much each state allocates in funding to its respective universities. For example, in MS, the IHL provides about 11% to each of the big 3 universities. 11% is peanuts. Currently more to MSU than the other two I think, but still not much. Because endowed funds are generally so restrictive, there's still a large gap between operating costs and income from state and foundations.

Colorado is similar but better funding numbers.

I don't know anything about Big Ten schools.
Michigan has a 17 billion dollar endowment, Iowa, Illinois, Indiana 3-4 billion. those numbers are four years old. Guarantee they’ve all hiked tuition in that time.
 

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You can FOIA the foundation's annual report if it's not already publicly available. The foundation is managing hundreds of endowments, all of which are fully restricted to their stated purpose in a memorandum with the donor. This is SOP for higher education. The endowments you are referencing are to the Ivies, which must be doing much more risky things with theirs because they have very small enrollments and donors who likely have donated more unrestricted money to those endowments.

And, Ole Miss is also above $1bn. They haven't announced yet because they are waiting to announce it as an end of their campaign event before football season.
This is exactly how the private endowment works. You set it up to help whomever you like and they have to honor that or call and get approval if they are having trouble getting the funding allocated one semester for any reason.
 
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Also, endowments typically pay out at roughly 4.4% and are capped to ensure their continued existence. Just FYI. No argument here, just how it works.
 

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Sounds like something the US congress would put out, not a penny wasted*. When there are tens of billions involved, someone’s palm is getting greased.
Only a Confederate Rebel would try to denigrate such a positive for OUR university. When is enough going to be enough with this Confederate?
 

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Who cares bout that? This is an amazing thing for the university. Believe it or not, the university is actually more than a minor league pro athletic program.
The sarcasm was implied you simpleton.
 

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So teach them to rely on govt to pay there bills. Bad idea
That is a bad analogy.

Would you like it very much if the city or county that you live in was sitting on a billion dollars in the bank and paid the Mayor and other employees six digit salaries, but consistently raised property taxes year after year?
 
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Does that put us ahead of anyone in the SEC? I recall at one point seeing we were last but that was probably over a decade ago.
And that was before we let in the Texas schools - their endowments astound the mind.
I can't vouch for accuracy of the statement, but I saw a recent post stating that it puts us ahead/equal to pretty much every SEC school other than Vandy, UT, and TAMU. Further, when looking at enrollment/endowment ratio, we're way ahead of a lot of SEC schools. \

Again, I didn't fact check that, just relaying what I saw.
 

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Yes, private donations, we know that. It varies by institution, but a lot of schools are paying huge sums of money to hedge fund managers for their billion dollar investments, and raising tuition at the same time. It’s all tax free since it’s supposedly about educating the public.

It’s the same scam with the billions paid out for tv contracts with college football, couldn’t they use some of that money to fund nil instead of squeezing mom and pop who can barely afford tickets, oh no. Can’t do that.
They already are paying out TV revenue to pay for NIL. All the P4 schools are doing it to the tune of $22.5MM if I remember correctly.
 

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They already are paying out TV revenue to pay for NIL. All the P4 schools are doing it to the tune of $22.5MM if I remember correctly.
  • CFP through the 2031-32 season. This six-year extension, agreed upon in March 2024, is valued at $7.8 billion, or $1.3 billion annually.
  • Power Five Conferences: The major conferences (Big Ten, SEC, ACC, Big 12) have lucrative TV deals with various networks, including ESPN, FOX, CBS, and NBC.
    • Big Ten: The Big Ten has a multi-network deal reportedly worth $1.15 billion annually, or $71.875 million per school annually. The conference's revenue was $845.6 million in the 2022 fiscal year.
    • SEC: The SEC's media deal with ESPN is worth $300 million annually, a significant increase from their previous deal with CBS. The SEC earned $802 million in revenue in 2022. The SEC distributed an average of $52.5 million per school for the 2023-24 fiscal year.
    • Big 12: The Big 12 will begin a new six-year deal with ESPN and FOX in 2025-26 worth $2.2 billion, which is an increase from the previous deal. The conference reported $480.6 million in revenue for 2022.

and it’s all going to pay players ? It’s not ? Of course it isn’t, lol
 

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  • CFP through the 2031-32 season. This six-year extension, agreed upon in March 2024, is valued at $7.8 billion, or $1.3 billion annually.
  • Power Five Conferences: The major conferences (Big Ten, SEC, ACC, Big 12) have lucrative TV deals with various networks, including ESPN, FOX, CBS, and NBC.
    • Big Ten: The Big Ten has a multi-network deal reportedly worth $1.15 billion annually, or $71.875 million per school annually. The conference's revenue was $845.6 million in the 2022 fiscal year.
    • SEC: The SEC's media deal with ESPN is worth $300 million annually, a significant increase from their previous deal with CBS. The SEC earned $802 million in revenue in 2022. The SEC distributed an average of $52.5 million per school for the 2023-24 fiscal year.
    • Big 12: The Big 12 will begin a new six-year deal with ESPN and FOX in 2025-26 worth $2.2 billion, which is an increase from the previous deal. The conference reported $480.6 million in revenue for 2022.

and it’s all going to pay players ? It’s not ? Of course it isn’t, lol
SEC - $52.5MM distribution per school for TV rights. Each school distributing $22.5MM to players (distribution was determined by NCAA/House Settlement/whatever). Looks like a pretty hefty percentage to me. Do you WANT them to give it ALL to the players??? Of course not!
 
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It still blows my mind that there are people here putting a negative slant on this. This is a 100% positive for MSU. Most of them are the usual suspects so I guess it's to be expected.
It's an incredible achievement. I don't know where there was an implication that it wasn't. But, I'm sure you'll point something out for me.
 

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It still blows my mind that there are people here putting a negative slant on this. This is a 100% positive for MSU. Most of them are the usual suspects so I guess it's to be expected.
I said this on here many times, but who needs a rival school when we have fans like this? We are our own worst enemy.
 

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I said this on here many times, but who needs a rival school when we have fans like this? We are our own worst enemy.
Being our own worst enemy is how State was founded

Ole Miss started up an Ag School and no one showed up.

And people here complain about the state having too many universities…
 
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A cursory view of articles on that subject reveal it’s not so cut and dried. many schools with large endowments give only a small amount to reduce student costs, much of it goes to salaries, hiring positions, infrastructure. It varies but your post doesn’t address the main point, which is with billions of dollars in endowments, why isn’t more of the funding going to reduce student/cost/debt ?


Just in 2016, “experts I consulted estimate that over $100 billion of educational endowment money nationwide is invested in hedge funds, costing them approximately $2.5 billion in fees in 2015 alone.”

This calls into question how beneficial these institutions are for students as opposed to the private equity barons running them. As Julien Berman of the Harvard Crimson wrote, “In 2014, five rich institutions including Harvard paid more to private equity fund managers than they dished out in aid to their entire student bodies.” Meanwhile, another study Berman noted found that endowment increases have no effect on tuition. In other words, Harvard getting more money is not making it any more affordable.

Tax free
Something tells me you’re not going to be managing and billion-dollar endowments.
 

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Something tells me you’re not going to be managing and billion-dollar endowments.
Correct, I’d take a % of the interest payment from the billions sitting in hedge funds and lower tuition and pass the savings on to struggling middle class families and residents of the state. that would never be allowed. those Hedge Fund managers need another beach house in the Hamptons.
 

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Correct, I’d take a % of the interest payment from the billions sitting in hedge funds and lower tuition and pass the savings on to struggling middle class families and residents of the state. that would never be allowed. those Hedge Fund managers need another beach house in the Hamptons.
Lmao. Just how do you think these hedge fund managers command such exorbitant fees and keep finding investors?
 
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That is a bad analogy.

Would you like it very much if the city or county that you live in was sitting on a billion dollars in the bank and paid the Mayor and other employees six digit salaries, but consistently raised property taxes year after year?
Apples and oranges kid