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There's something special going on.
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See, that is the part I start seeing Nikkisixx's point. I fully get that goal #1 is to win the division and how you compare to division mates matters but that isn't the end goal...you are Nebraska for Christ sake. To me your measuring stick is on a national level and you should be "killing it" compared to Iowa. Maybe comparing your class to tOSU is a bit unfair right now because this is the best start to recruiting I've ever seen them have. But looking towards that tier of schools to determine if you are "killing it" or not (instead of comparing yourself to the Iowas) is not unfair.
I think our quality is very good, but I wouldn't say we are killing it. I know, it's an un-winnable argument for either side.
First of all, I don't know how serious those comments were. Second of all, there were people predicting undefeated seasons when Bo was coach too. Also, I find it ironic that the one game just about everybody thought we would lose(Michigan State) was one that we won. Interesting too that so many people were sure we'd lose to Minnesota.
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hate to be the bad guy here but like Callahan before him the defense will stink (banker=cosgrove)+ the team will lose games (Riley record last 5 years- 30-33!!)= talk or firing of both Eichorst and Riley and then POOF - decommits roll
More than any 5 star commit I was hoping Riley would wise up (and nut up), realize Banker just simply is not a good DC (look at his track record) not just replace a DL coach with a husker legacy and think all is well. Just my humble opinion and #GBR
More than any 5 star commit I was hoping Riley would wise up (and nut up), realize Banker just simply is not a good DC (look at his track record) not just replace a DL coach with a husker legacy and think all is well. Just my humble opinion and #GBR
Well wait a sec... now you are saying it wasn't a serious post? Well I showed it to you, and another poster agreed. I still think there is more that I haven't found, but it doesn't matter because it will just be "that wasn't a serious post". The rest of this post, I don't know what you are talking about.
Nope, I'm standing here taking it all and doing my best against all the different posts. I may not be winning, but backpedaling is not the right word. Try again.
What part about what I wrote don't you understand? Do you have a reading comprehension problem?
I will stick to my original statement. I don't think Hank being let go is demolishing the stick whatsoever. He was not in Riley's circle, and was a recommendation. If the coaches perform they will be fine.
well you started to get conversational about the MSU game, and then the Minny game, and you brought up the old coach, so I didn't know what you were trying to do. I thought we were arguing over someone predicting an undefeated season. So I wasn't sure where you were going with that. I guess you wanted to minimize the original question, except it was the point you brought up to begin with. You're starting to go in circles.
No, the problem is that we aren't NEBRASKA right now, we're Nebraska. No one here has to like it, but we have more in common right now with Iowa, Northwestern and Wisconsin than we do the Ohio States of the world. Hell, I don't like it either. Look, though, this is part of the problem. It's true that we all want the program back to what we perceive as it's elite status. Unfortunately, defiantly insisting that "we're Nebraska for Pete's sake!" won't return us there. We'll only get there by consistently improving over where we are currently at. ARMY and MINNESOTA used to be the kings of college football. Being elite is a process, not a demand statement. Quit living in the past, or we'll never get to go forward.
The point about people predicting undefeated seasons when Bo was the coach, is to show that there is probably somebody who will predict an undefeated season every year no matter who the coach is and regardless of how unrealistic it is. Bo never showed that he had the ability to go undefeated, yet there were still people who predicted it would happen. The other part about the Michigan State and Minnesota games was just an interesting aside I noticed reading through those threads-and also to make the point how ridiculous preseason predictions are anyway.
1) The ranking doesn't matter one damn bit right now.
2) Rivals rankings are, in part, based on class numbers. Four is not equal to eight.
3) A comparison to Urban Meyer? Good grief, man. Riley is in his second year and you're comparing him to one of the two most successful coaches in the game right now. Lunacy.
4) Good quality? Unreal. Studs. Four of them. Studs that were at the very top of our boards. One is a USC legacy. One is an Ole Miss legacy. One is one of the best talents in the radius. One is join up in the ranking provided he stays healthy, but honestly, I could care less if he does.
Let me repeat: the coaches are KILLING IT right now for the class of 2017. That's a cold hard fact. End discussion.
We can roll out of bed and recruit a top 25 class (Cornicator said so).. we're at 25, so that is par for the course.
That is not 'Killing it', that is Par.
Just because you get emotional and type it in caps, does not make it more real or accurate
I can't compare Mike and Urban? Why Not?
Ok, is there a better comparison? or a more apt one? Chryst? Harbaugh?
See, if we have to compare against someone other than the best, then 'Mike is Killing it', means something different. It implies Mike is doing his best in lieu of some handicap.
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Wow. You're not approaching this in a logical way. We are sitting at 25 with four committed players, who are studs, and were at the top of our board. Their histories and geographic locations put our program at a huge disadvantage to get them. We did. Additionally, anyone who follows recruiting knows that building a nucleus is the most important aspect of a developing class. We've done this, for example, with a commitment (KJJ) that got our name mentioned on mainstream sports news for the first time in modern recruiting history. Every single recruiting expert that follows Nebraska football has been and are continuing to project this class as a splash for MR. We are in the hunt for a large number of exceptional players.
THAT IS KILLING IT.
You can compare them. It's just stupid to do so. Good like funding a coaching list that appears favorable next to Urban Meyer's name
Imo...your "peer group" at the moment is Michigan, PSU, ND and Texas...iconic football brands that are trying to get back to being MICHIGAN, PENN STATE, NOTRE DAME and TEXAS again. You could even throw Tennessee into our wtf happened to us party even though they are slightly below the rest of us prestige wise...even though none of us have had the recent teams of a tOSU you are more likely to see us grouped in with them than the Iowas and Wiskeys "program" wise (e.g. the weight the brand holds with recruits). So maybe those schools should be your measuring stick(s).
Nah.. he's got a small nucleus of players. You're just saying he is killing it because you're excited and did not expect this from him.
Wait, it's Hype isn't it? is Mike responsible or is KJJ responsible?
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I've been looking at this all wrong... Nikki's right... We do suck. But not as bad as USC, Florida, Tennessee, Oregon, Washington, Penn State, Auburn, TCU... They are ranked below us! ONLY THING THAT MATTERS IS RANKING! Numbers don't matter, average star ranking doesn't matter, just where we are currently ranked, and that stat says we suck.
Sure glad we aren't those other programs!
Sure glad we aren't those other programs!
Who got KJJ to Lincoln?
And do you really think all the rest are coming because of KJJ? Seriously? No, I mean, for real? You are rapidly making it so that no one can take you seriously any longer.
Check my history, fool. I've been posting on the same line since Riley was hired.
P.S. Your post makes no sense in the context of our exchange.
What the hell happened in here?
It started like a kid called his best friend on Christmas eve, exuberant, saying: "I got four bad *** Transformers, and I hear Santa is coming tomorrow with twenty more Ninja Turtles, GI Joes, and Hot Wheels!!!
The other kid says, "I already got 25 kick *** Transformers, Hot Wheels, Ninja Turtles, and GI Joes, and mine are better because I already have them, and my parents have given me better presents in the past." (Never mind the last clause, kids don't know this doesn't actually make the presents they have right now any better).
Exuberant kid says, "No, Dude! You misunderstood, my Mom and Dad got raises last year, and now I'm getting kick *** presents too, just wait and see!!!"
Pessimistic kid says, "It will never happen, your Mom and Dad are losers, you'll never get kick *** presents."
Exuberant kid says, "Dude, look! I'm already getting kick *** presents, it's different!"
Pessimistic kid says, "No, dude, your parents suck. They'll get fired and you'll have to take your toys back to the store."
Exuberant kid, now deflated and upset, asks, "Wait, why are we friends?"
It started like a kid called his best friend on Christmas eve, exuberant, saying: "I got four bad *** Transformers, and I hear Santa is coming tomorrow with twenty more Ninja Turtles, GI Joes, and Hot Wheels!!!
The other kid says, "I already got 25 kick *** Transformers, Hot Wheels, Ninja Turtles, and GI Joes, and mine are better because I already have them, and my parents have given me better presents in the past." (Never mind the last clause, kids don't know this doesn't actually make the presents they have right now any better).
Exuberant kid says, "No, Dude! You misunderstood, my Mom and Dad got raises last year, and now I'm getting kick *** presents too, just wait and see!!!"
Pessimistic kid says, "It will never happen, your Mom and Dad are losers, you'll never get kick *** presents."
Exuberant kid says, "Dude, look! I'm already getting kick *** presents, it's different!"
Pessimistic kid says, "No, dude, your parents suck. They'll get fired and you'll have to take your toys back to the store."
Exuberant kid, now deflated and upset, asks, "Wait, why are we friends?"
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That is big, you know, because I want to go somewhere where I feel comfortable, and I've seen him on the 7-on-7 circuit and he has been throwing the ball very well. Besides Tristan, Nebraska has one of our quarterbacks from b2g, Patrick O’Brien, so thats a big, big factor.
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That is big, you know, because I want to go somewhere where I feel comfortable, and I've seen him on the 7-on-7 circuit and he has been throwing the ball very well. Besides Tristan, Nebraska has one of our quarterbacks from b2g, Patrick O’Brien, so thats a big, big factor.
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What's with the name calling? You really can't have a discussion without resorting to that? I don't care about your history, it is irrelevant. You dug your heels in, and I just wanted you to actually justify your position is all.
Look, the truth is, it's an un-winnable argument for both sides. Saying someone is 'killing it' is subjective. It isn't a true or false statement. It was supposed to be fun, and somewhat provocative, but I'm sorry you didn't understand.
haha.. this was a joke right?
You don't seem to have that Botard stench about you. But I do detect a slight hint of BOR. But one thing is for sure... all the anti Riley folks will be on your knees soon enough!
For the record, I hope Mike has a long & successful career here.You don't seem to have that Botard stench about you. But I do detect a slight hint of BOR. But one thing is for sure... all the anti Riley folks will be on your knees soon enough!
That episode was terrible, still shake my head about the season ending. I think it was Glen that got whacked.