Things you can pretty much count on...
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People talk bad about Pirtle, and I get it.... I don't know, I see him coming around this year on his hitting. He can switch hit, he understands when to pull, and he's a stab away sometimes.
I think the more he plays the more we'll see him adjust. Maybe I'm being too hopeful.
I like Britton too, and wouldn't call for one overwhelmingly over the other for now.
I think the more he plays the more we'll see him adjust. Maybe I'm being too hopeful.
I like Britton too, and wouldn't call for one overwhelmingly over the other for now.
Should have looked at this one before starting another Pirtle thread. Give me Britton all day long over Pirtle. Much more potential in Britton's game.
Agreed. Pirtle isn't that bad. He has the most upside of all the 2B guys. He'll be a hell of a 2B-man for us next year. Actually may even move to SS and Britton may take over 2B. Thank the good Lord Frost will finally graduate this year.
I don't know. I'm just not ready to write him off.
Britton has a lot more SEC play under his belt. I think when Pirtle gets adjusted to the speed of play, he's going to look pretty decent.
That was a bad AB following what I said, though. If he's smart on them (and he seems decently intelligent), I think he can learn to spray it around.
Britton has a lot more SEC play under his belt. I think when Pirtle gets adjusted to the speed of play, he's going to look pretty decent.
That was a bad AB following what I said, though. If he's smart on them (and he seems decently intelligent), I think he can learn to spray it around.
Britton is a walking talking backwards k
at least pirtle can put the ball in play.
I'd rather have frost in every day over britton.
at least pirtle can put the ball in play.
I'd rather have frost in every day over britton.
I know something you can count on. State fans bitching and moaning every time a ball is hit, thrown, dribbled, passed or handed off.
Another thing is that fans of MSU will forever think that a coaches decision not to make a team double knot their left shoelaces was the difference in the chick fil a bowl and an nit bid.
What the 17 ever.
Another thing is that fans of MSU will forever think that a coaches decision not to make a team double knot their left shoelaces was the difference in the chick fil a bowl and an nit bid.
What the 17 ever.
Most JUCO guys don't really get it together until late in their first season. I said most, not all.
He's a sophomore. And he has a much higher ceiling than Bret Pirtle. If Cohen would let Britton play more than an inning at a time, like he has Pirtle, then Britton would prove to be a much better player in my opinion. Unfortunately for Britton, he is in the dreaded Cohen doghouse.
Sorry. Dont mean to say you are typically negative. Just that MSU fans tend to get too specific in their bitching and it has been true since I've been alive (1967).
Our bitching is quite 'realistic' for the finite time we evaluate. It just isnt necessarilly indicative of what the real issues with the teams are. Some examples:
CT Bradford has timely hits and skull scratching at bats.
Pirtle hits a home run and makes a great play. Then strikes out and makes a terrible play.
So does every single solitary baseball player in history.
The 'real' issue with this team in my opinion is that we havent had a pitiching rotation solidified due to injuries, or whatever.
THe hitting has been there. We've played some tough teams.
We've not been good situationally (hitting into double plays and some base running errors).
At the end of the day, a good hitter that is a marginal fielder will hurt you more than a below average hitter and a good fielder.
Pirtle fits that category.
Cohen has to get the lineup solidified quickly. But most importantly, he has to do it eventually. THat is going to mean some experientation. And more 'realistic' reasons for us to *****
Our bitching is quite 'realistic' for the finite time we evaluate. It just isnt necessarilly indicative of what the real issues with the teams are. Some examples:
CT Bradford has timely hits and skull scratching at bats.
Pirtle hits a home run and makes a great play. Then strikes out and makes a terrible play.
So does every single solitary baseball player in history.
The 'real' issue with this team in my opinion is that we havent had a pitiching rotation solidified due to injuries, or whatever.
THe hitting has been there. We've played some tough teams.
We've not been good situationally (hitting into double plays and some base running errors).
At the end of the day, a good hitter that is a marginal fielder will hurt you more than a below average hitter and a good fielder.
Pirtle fits that category.
Cohen has to get the lineup solidified quickly. But most importantly, he has to do it eventually. THat is going to mean some experientation. And more 'realistic' reasons for us to *****
Sorry, but this is just terribly wrong. Open your eyes.
Sort of like ALL of last year?
Britton played ALL of last year?
Even if he did...he was a 17ing FRESHMAN. How many more games you gonna give Pirtle? He only has a season and a half left. Are you going to let him eat up every bit of Britton's opportunity until he graduates just Hoping he finally gets it going?
Even if he did...he was a 17ing FRESHMAN. How many more games you gonna give Pirtle? He only has a season and a half left. Are you going to let him eat up every bit of Britton's opportunity until he graduates just Hoping he finally gets it going?
At this point, Pirtle is a better hitter and fielder than Britton. And he can hit the ball out of the park. So he plays. They both can make plenty of improvement, but Pirtle has the highest ceiling for the next two years. But you are right, Britton is a year younger and has more time to break out, and another year to play. But he isn't going to do it overnight. And you can't sit a better player because you think another guy is going to break out.
Take your logic and turn it around. Think about what you're saying. Plus, Britton will have a chance to play next year after Frazier leaves.
I shudder at the thought of a Britton-Pirtle middle infield right now.
but to compare some apples and oranges, Robson looks more comfortable at the plate to me than Britton does.
but to compare some apples and oranges, Robson looks more comfortable at the plate to me than Britton does.
I don't think Britton even deserves to make the weekend 25 let alone play over Pirtle. At least Pirtle can be used in defensive spots late.
I can give you Pirtle over Britton, but you can't say it's not a close race. Pirtle has found a couple of blind squirrel base hits, and has had 10 times the amount of AB's as Britton. I just think it's hard for people to knock him when he hasn't gotten hardly any PT as a sophomore yet. If you're going to allow Pirtle to start the season 3-35 or whatever it was...do you really think Britton would have been worse in as many at bats? I don't.
Basically, all I'm saying is that neither is a great option, but if two players are basically neck and neck I would go with the younger guy that has more potential. If Britton is going to have to potentially play greater innings next year, he isn't going to be much better without some at bats this year. And if Pirtle is your starter, which he appears to be, then why not let Brityon get some cuts against Alcorn?
We've got 10 second baseman and none of them are really worth a **** right now, so I don't really know why we're debating it. Throw their names in a hat and pick one for all I care.
Pirtle has one error (.986), and I have seen him make plays that Britton could never make. He has more range as well. I think any SEC team would take that.
While their batting averages are the same, Pirtle has a 100 point edge in slugging and 90 points in OBP. He's also a switch hitter. It's no contest.