This guy is a moron.

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I have to agree with Keith Olberman has said on his show several times. They need to blow up the voter setup for the baseball HOF and start over because its gotten silly.


http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mlb-b...-unanimous-pick-hall-fame-165153925--mlb.html

Greg Maddux won’t be unanimous pick for Hall of Fame
By David Brown
2 hours ago
Big League Stew
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Greg Maddux (left) and Hall of Fame voter Ken Gurnick. (Getty)
Greg Maddux won't be the first unanimous Hall of Fame selection after all. At least one voter didn't put him on a ballot for the 2014 class. Ken Gurnick of MLB.com, who covers the Los Angeles Dodgers, voted only for Jack Morris.


The Hall of Fame announcement comes Wednesday, but voters have been making their choices public periodically. Maddux had been tracking at 100 percent, according to the count at the Baseball Think Factory. Maddux might not be the best pitcher ever (although it's reasonable to think so) but he would seem like a natural unanimous pick, which has never happened in history. Nope. Here's Gurnick's reasoning for going against the crowd on Maddux:




Morris
Morris has flaws -- a 3.90 ERA, for example. But he gets my vote for more than a decade of ace performance that included three 20-win seasons, Cy Young Award votes in seven seasons and Most Valuable Players votes in five. As for those who played during the period of PED use, I won't vote for any of them.
"The period of PED use," he writes. As if players don't use PEDs anymore, or didn't when Morris pitched, from 1977-1994. Among Morris' contemporaries: Jose Canseco, an admitted PED user. Of course, Maddux also played in Morris' time. Gurnick's reasoning is beyond flawed. Gurnick's opinion simply makes no sense — and we're not even getting into the details of performance-enhancing amphetamines, which were rampant from the 1960s going forward. If steroids are cheating, so are amphetamines, which are now banned (without a prescription) by MLB.


Voting for nobody because of PEDs would be one thing, but voting for Morris — a particularly divisive case because of his "meh" results when compared to pitchers like Maddux — makes Gurnick look like a troll, out only to antagonize.


Because he works for MLB.com, Gurnick is not a current member of the Baseball Writers Association of America, the voting body responsible for electing most of the former players in the Hall. (MLB.com reporters, among others, are excluded from the BBWAA.) But Gurnick had a BBWAA card for at least 10 years before, which gives him lifetime voting privileges for the Hall of Fame. That's a shame.


So, it turns out that Chipper Jones was right. Somebody did something dumb and omitted Maddux from a ballot. But it wasn't so Maddux wouldn't be "unanimous." It, apparently, was to send a message to PED users. Gurnick simply missed the mark.


Maddux is still a safe bet to make the Hall — 75 percent is the threshold for admittance — and he might even eclipse Tom Seaver's record percentage. One stained ballot can't stop either.


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Rebels7

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The fact that he pitched during that era, dominated, and clearly didn't use PED's (85 mph?) just shows how good he really was. That Gurnick guy is an idiot.
 

patdog

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What's really sad is that guy actually has a vote. You're right, if anything, the so-called steroid era just makes Maddux more deserving of the HOF. Cause if there's one guy that definitely didn't use steroids, it's Greg Maddux.
 

FallAmericanDawg

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The fact that he pitched during that era, dominated, and clearly didn't use PED's (85 mph?) just shows how good he really was. That Gurnick guy is an idiot.

Not to mention the fact that he is the best command pitcher in baseball history. You could've replaced a teacup with the catcher's mitt and he would hit it dead center every time
 

The Peeper

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Words that will NEVER come from my mouth or brain for that matter, I'll just HAVE to find another way to say it...........

I have to agree with Keith Olberman
 
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The fact that he pitched during that era, dominated, and clearly didn't use PED's (85 mph?) just shows how good he really was. That Gurnick guy is an idiot.

I'm not saying that Maddux is a juicer, but the suggestion that his pitch speed indicates anything about his use (or lack of use) of PED's shows just how little you (and the public in general) know about their effects.
 
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If the guy wants to not vote for him because he played in the steroid era, fine, but he voted for Jack Morris who had borderline HOF numbers AND played a lot of his career in the steroid era.
 

00Dawg

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Honey, did I ever tell you that you're as pretty as Greg Maddux?
 

The Peeper

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You're a better man than I. I've seen his true colors in too many other places to listen to his sports views. Every time I see him I picture him wearing his wool socks and Birkenstocks, w/ his arms interlocked w/ Rachel Maddow protesting some ******** agenda w/ a bunch of guys and gals in dreads that don't bathe and eat tofu flavored w/ hemp juice.
 
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As long he keeps his politics to himself on there, it's fine with me. His views are probably shared by most everyone on espn.
 

lazlow

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Most forget he had to also to get it done at the plate if he wanted to get the W in Atlanta.... I lost track of the 1-0 games he won where he was the only batter to scratch
 

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I heard him on ESPN and he appeared to be as good as he once was. I was unable, however, to overcome my abhorrence at the vitriol he spewed on MSNBC and didn't go back.