This is going to be a controversial post, but...

[jauk11]

Wow. All I can think of is wow.

Probably a few assistants go, but Stoops and probably the majority of the staff will be here for two more years, at least. Maybe a couple of assistants go this year.

So, how much are the buyouts for the assistants, and how much was it for our "Co-DC" Brown back in the day? Of course there is a ton of money available and being thrown around in sports today, even at UK football.

And football IS a better investment than basketball money wise, even at UK. Maybe not enough money to get a SEC championship, but enough to keep the seats full and fans donating $40,000,000 for a new football building to rival the one basketball has had for almost a decade, UK football has already bought UK a new $40,000,000 building plus enabled some other things.

Too bad we did nothing for football for ten years, quite a hole we dug------but then, like most of these things, I don't think the fans had that much to do with it.

I don't expect a lot out of this interview, but who knows.

By the way, where have you been, we need more logical fans posting------not that I blame you for avoiding the mess on here.

 

[shutzhund]

There's a huge flaw in this statement. Those things DIDNT happen. So why I assume? I'm sure of stoops was doing a good job, so many fans wouldn't be upset. But me as well as many other fans invest in this program and get screwed over, over and over again by promises from people such as stoops that they do not fullfill. The manner in which we lost the UL, Vandy games and other games. Is why we're upset. Horrible play calling (worst OC in D1), horrible game management by stoops. Like have you watched the games this year? Did you see stoops coaching mistakes that he made time after time every game multiple times a game? (I'll name numerous examples if need be), you do realize our coaching staff has ZERO experience at the OC, DC, and HC positions? And that we do play in the SEC right? You do realize the decisions stoops made for putting together a staff were woeful at best and a recipe for failure with a zero % chance at success in the SEC? You WILL NOT succeed in the SEC with no experience at OC, DC, and HC. Idk why that's so hard to believe. But we seriously are a part of the SEC conference and these are our coaches. You've actually seen such incompetence from a coaching staff before (as far as game management goes)? Very impressive if so. Kudos.

You come across as all talk and no meat. Endless repetition which you count as interesting. Do you ever wonder why people walk away from you before you're finished speaking?

 

[kb22stang]

Couldn't be farther from the truth. Go check some of the SEC hotseat rankings on ESPN, SaturdayDownSouth, Cbssports, etc. I promise you'll find Stoops no lower than #2 on any of them. It's kind of sad because national writers (with no dog in the fight) seem more disappointed about the season & hold Stoops' feet to the fire more than our own fanbase (which is really, really weird when you think about it). Usually it's the national writers that have to tell a fanbase to temper their exectations or give a coach more time, but in our case it's almost always the exact opposite.

It's not wierd, it's about knowing the situation that Stoops inherited. And they're not disappointed, they're just looking at the record and putting him on the list. You guys can ***** and moan until your panties are tied in a windsor, but anyone with a brain realizes that this job takes longer than three years. They also realize that changing coaches every three years is a recipe for failure.

I posted stats a week or two ago about coaches who had similar or worse starts at a program and turned them into a winner. But you have to have patience. Brooks, sadly our most successful coach in the last 20 years or so, didn't do it in 3 years. He also had Kragthorpe ruining UofL to give him another win. We have to give this staff time to figure out if they can turn it around.

But UK fans don't want to wait, they think they have the crystal ball. They think he should have gone to a bowl game in year two, and they are probably the geniuses that were talking 8-9 wins and competing for an SEC east title after the SC game.


Bottom line is the program is in better shape now then it was when he got here. His seat isn't warm, and it won't be hot next year. After year 5, assuming he doesn't improve, then you will see the heat rise, and justifiably so.

 

[jauk11]

There's a huge flaw in this statement. Those things DIDNT happen. So why I assume? I'm sure of stoops was doing a good job, so many fans wouldn't be upset. But me as well as many other fans invest in this program and get screwed over, over and over again by promises from people such as stoops that they do not fullfill. The manner in which we lost the UL, Vandy games and other games. Is why we're upset. Horrible play calling (worst OC in D1), horrible game management by stoops. Like have you watched the games this year? Did you see stoops coaching mistakes that he made time after time every game multiple times a game? (I'll name numerous examples if need be), you do realize our coaching staff has ZERO experience at the OC, DC, and HC positions? And that we do play in the SEC right? You do realize the decisions stoops made for putting together a staff were woeful at best and a recipe for failure with a zero % chance at success in the SEC? You WILL NOT succeed in the SEC with no experience at OC, DC, and HC. Idk why that's so hard to believe. But we seriously are a part of the SEC conference and these are our coaches. You've actually seen such incompetence from a coaching staff before (as far as game management goes)? Very impressive if so. Kudos.

There is a huge flaw in your post: "Those things DIDNT happen."

Those things couldn't have happened, because he is talking about next year. And, JMO, but those things are likely to happen. And the coaches are no longer completely new to their job------just like most of our young talent, they have had three years of OJT and the best class we have ever had has two years of experience and body building that should improve them a lot, And unlike Joker's first class which had four of the five top commits from 2010 do absolutely nothing before leaving early all but one of the TEN four stars are still here, and almost all of the highly rated three stars are also.

I still think the jealous UK profs, the same ones that wouldn't LOAN (with interest) a PART of the tens of millions of dollars the athletic department has GIVEN them over the years the money to replace the long overdue scoreboards, had no business dismissing Tubman from UK. I personally hope they pay dearly for it, definitely a possibility.

And yes, they do have reason to be jealous, sports in general is out of control and at city schools like UL is definitely the tail wagging the dog.

 

[JimmyJimmy]

Geez. Give it a rest. There is not one poster on here that can say what next year is going to be like. Not one of you.

We can assume, predict but nobody knows. Well wait, bashers and haters know all.

 

[CATFANFOLIFE87]

You asked a question as to who else was available as if stoops was the best option out there. Mike leach I'm pretty sure beat Stanford this year. Stoops doesn't have a win close to as impressive as that win, in fact he doesn't have one single impressive win since being here. You asked a question, you got a very likely correct answer as to who's better.

Leach was 3-9, 6-7, and 3-9 in his first 3 seasons and he doesn't coach in the SEC. Can you imagine if he had gone 3-9 in year 3 here?? He would've been fired

 

[bradyjames_rivals]

Geez. Give it a rest. There is not one poster on here that can say what next year is going to be like. Not one of you.

We can assume, predict but nobody knows. Well wait, bashers and haters know all.

Give me a break. The Mitch fan club think they know it all. They told us Joker was the man. Those diamonds in the rough would pay off. We were born in a microwave because we thought he was awful. He was a UK guy. He would do great things with time and patience. We are short sighted to think he will fail. That Tee Martin was a legend on the recruiting trail. Sound familiar?

Now the very people they said great things about are the ones that they use as an excuse THREE YEARS AFTER to explain Stoops weaknesses.


They know it all until they don't. The coach gets fired then they blame the fans. Then they claim "it looked like a good hire at the time". Then we start the vicious cycle all over again.


Why does WKU, Cincy and a plethora of other schools hire a good FB coach over and over again? Perhaps, they make a mistake but don't sign deals that take five years to get out of. They get it corrected quickly. They have a good AD. That's why. It must be nice.

 

[bradyjames_rivals]

Leach was 3-9, 6-7, and 3-9 in his first 3 seasons and he doesn't coach in the SEC. Can you imagine if he had gone 3-9 in year 3 here?? He would've been fired

Mike Leach is a proven coach that has won at every HC stop. He did at Lubbock and Pullman. He has been to two bowls the past four years. You think a coach that took UK to a bowl in year two would be fired in year three? Hell, Stoops is here with a weaker record than Joker after year three.

Leach>Stoops. That's facts.

 

[Stenchymouse]

I really really want to care, but I just don't.

I've just seen this movie too many times in my 40 years as a UK football fan.

Mitch will be patient and Stoops will eventually lead us into unprecedented heights of mediocrity and we'll only be the third worst team in the SEC.

At some point, Stoops will realize that he's maxed out what he can do here and he'll move on.

The next coach will take us back to the bottom of the SEC until he's fired.

Rinse and repeat...

 

[TeoJ]

I just hope someone starts the same thread tomorrow,we need another one.

 

[andreIGUODOLLAsigns4UK]

You come across as all talk and no meat. Endless repetition which you count as interesting. Do you ever wonder why people walk away from you before you're finished speaking?

I'm taking it as you're a die hard stoops guy that doesn't like when people speak the ugly truth about his coaching ability? Good for you man!

 

[chuckster.sixpack]

Even if they make staff changes, I highly doubt that they will end up being significant.

It's not as if brilliant coaching talents are going to look at this situation and desperately want to be part of a staff on the hot seat.

Bingo

 

[andreIGUODOLLAsigns4UK]

It's not wierd, it's about knowing the situation that Stoops inherited. And they're not disappointed, they're just looking at the record and putting him on the list. You guys can ***** and moan until your panties are tied in a windsor, but anyone with a brain realizes that this job takes longer than three years. They also realize that changing coaches every three years is a recipe for failure.

I posted stats a week or two ago about coaches who had similar or worse starts at a program and turned them into a winner. But you have to have patience. Brooks, sadly our most successful coach in the last 20 years or so, didn't do it in 3 years. He also had Kragthorpe ruining UofL to give him another win. We have to give this staff time to figure out if they can turn it around.

But UK fans don't want to wait, they think they have the crystal ball. They think he should have gone to a bowl game in year two, and they are probably the geniuses that were talking 8-9 wins and competing for an SEC east title after the SC game.


Bottom line is the program is in better shape now then it was when he got here. His seat isn't warm, and it won't be hot next year. After year 5, assuming he doesn't improve, then you will see the heat rise, and justifiably so.

Lol. Yes firing a coach after 3 years all the time does not work. Neither does hiring coaches like joker and stoops. No experience at the OC, DC, and HC positions in the unforgiving SEC is actually the recipe for failure that we have going for us right now.

 

[chuckster.sixpack]

I honestly don't think there is a more difficult job in college football than the UK job.If you think in terms of getting to bowl eligibility , competing on a every game basis and even when you recruit on a top 20 level you are still 10th in your conference.

we didn't get the nickname "the graveyard of coaches" by accident. We are about a year or so away from putting up the next headstone

Right now the SECE is arguably the weakest P5 division in college football. So UK is far from the toughest job.

 

[chuckster.sixpack]

Lol. Yes firing a coach after 3 years all the time does not work. Neither does hiring coaches like joker and stoops. No experience at the OC, DC, and HC positions in the unforgiving SEC is actually the recipe for failure that we have going for us right now.

Correct. Firing coaches every year is not the problem. The problem is hiring the WRONG coaches every three-four years.

 

[andreIGUODOLLAsigns4UK]

Right now the SECE is arguably the weakest P5 division in college football. So UK is far from the toughest job.

Huh, weakest P5 division? The ACC is a real conference that for some reason is considered a P5 conference, it's not some mythical fairytale. The only conference that might be better for this one season of football was the big ten. Next year the SEC will be back to its dominating norm, with UK as the bottom dweller.

Edit. Just read where you said division. The division iowa and North Carolina and the real USC were worse

 

[chuckster.sixpack]

Huh, weakest P5 division? The ACC is a real conference that for some reason is considered a P5 conference, it's not some mythical fairytale. The only conference that might be better for this one season of football was the big ten. Next year the SEC will be back to its dominating norm, with UK as the bottom dweller.

Edit. Just read where you said division. The division iowa and North Carolina and the real USC were worse

Based on what?

 

[UKWildcats#8]

Stoops will get at least 2 more years, unless he just sucks bigtime this year. Even then, he may get another year. His seat may or may not be hot from Mitch/UK, but the fans are not gonna give a crap as much this coming season unless Stoops really surprises. Considering his max win total will probably be 6-7 wins in a regular season tops due to coaching ability, I doubt anyone gets excited, even if he starts out with another good record based on how the last two seasons ended. All the guy had to do was beat freaking Vandy and/or UL this year to really keep the fanbase behind him and progress. He failed miserably at both.

 

[Shavers48]

It's obvious that Stoops has had his problems,but with that being said,somebody give us names who are available ,and capable of recruiting developing,and coaching up the roster that he inherited and has recruited!? I'll be waiting on the answer,and certainly support whomever has this answer for our new AD!

the way our idiot AD throws good money after bad I'd think we have a line of coaches that runs all the way to Louisville. $18 million for what, 6-11 with the 6 against dregs. smells like easy money to me

 

[ThwKentuckyKid]

I thought you said you were gone since basketball season started Sam.

 

[truebluewildcat_rivals34254]

I was never expecting sweeping changes and a complete overhaul, but I had remained hopeful that there would have been a tweak or two...

Defense overall save the secondary, Special Teams, and the O-line...maybe not all, but at least 1 if not 2 of those needed to be addressed...

I think CMS unfortunately has anchored himself to his staff and philosophy...

There was great opportunity with all the coaching upheaval across the nation to snag a solid assistant and/or coordinator...

I can respect his stubbornness and sticking to his guns as well as his loyalty to his guys...but it may cost him...

Year 4 is it...weak east overall, 3 programs going through coaching changes...Florida is beatable...

I think if significant progress isn't made this year, then it's not going to be made with how things are currently constructed...

 

[buckkiller]

It should be bowl game next year or all coaches should be gone!!! PETIOD! IF THE SEAT ISN'T HOT THEN MITCH IS JUST A DUMBASS SOFTIE!!!

 

[sluggercatfan]

Mike Leach is a proven coach that has won at every HC stop. He did at Lubbock and Pullman. He has been to two bowls the past four years. You think a coach that took UK to a bowl in year two would be fired in year three? Hell, Stoops is here with a weaker record than Joker after year three.

Leach>Stoops. That's facts.

I think he was at TT 10 years...10 bowl games

 

[andreIGUODOLLAsigns4UK]

There is a huge flaw in your post: "Those things DIDNT happen."

Those things couldn't have happened, because he is talking about next year. And, JMO, but those things are likely to happen. And the coaches are no longer completely new to their job------just like most of our young talent, they have had three years of OJT and the best class we have ever had has two years of experience and body building that should improve them a lot, And unlike Joker's first class which had four of the five top commits from 2010 do absolutely nothing before leaving early all but one of the TEN four stars are still here, and almost all of the highly rated three stars are also.

I still think the jealous UK profs, the same ones that wouldn't LOAN (with interest) a PART of the tens of millions of dollars the athletic department has GIVEN them over the years the money to replace the long overdue scoreboards, had no business dismissing Tubman from UK. I personally hope they pay dearly for it, definitely a possibility.

And yes, they do have reason to be jealous, sports in general is out of control and at city schools like UL is definitely the tail wagging the dog.

Yes you're right I misinterpreted the post my fault on that. But to what you had to say. I can't think of a single reason as to how any of those things are 'likely to happen'? Louisville is equal or better talent wise, it's at Louisville, and petrino as much of scum he may or may not be (none of us can seriously truly judge who he is today, maybe he's not the same POS sometimes people sooner or later, and obviously in this case it'd the latter, change), is a damn good coach and no one can seriously qualify stoops and these coaches as even close to mediocre yet. Not saying that won't change. But I would bet the house that it doesn't. All signs point towards it not changing. Too much inexperience. The in game adjusting, or lack thereof (in this case completely nonexistent), is the mark of a good coach and I've never seen worse in game management and adjusting in my entire life at this level. I'm not even exaggerating its that bad. He's had 3 years to correct it, the talent has gotten better, the coaching simply has not. Given the difficulty of our scedule. The new QB (given I do think is way better than towless from day one) I'm saying 5-7 tops possible 4-8.

 

[Grumpyolddawg]

This is going to ruffle some feathers but (in my opinion) there will be NO SIGNIFICANT CHANGES to the football coaching staff going forward

My personal opinion is that the big smiles and hugs with the recruits in all the recent pictures from this staff are meant to say just one thing: "Come on, everybody, this coaching staff is fine and we are bringing in all this great talent!"

Its amazing how much this thread sounds like some on UGA's site regarding Richt. He could do no right according to some posters and no wrong from another group. Now that he is gone, Kirby Smart has been on the job less than 2 weeks, same group on Richt are on Smart now and he hasn't even coached a game yet. He is not keeping the right assistants, he needs to be in Athens recruiting not at Bama coaching them in the playoffs, nevermind its a quiet period, he isn't wearing enough red when greeting recruits.

Stoops stepped into a tough situation at UK, talent was way down when he got here, it wasn't close to SEC talent and anyone saying it was isn't paying close attention. He has brought the talent level up, its on par with Missouri, USC, better than Vandy but overall still behind UF, UT and UGA by a good bit. UF and UGA have huge advantages over UK because of the amount of instate talent and UT at one time spent more on recruiting than anyone in the country, plus the state of Tennessee talent is getting better. Another disadvantage UK faces that isn't mentioned is weather. Other than Missouri and maybe Arkansas, UK is the coldest school in the SEC. I have seen more than one poster want to move the UF game to November because of the weather, well that same weather makes the Florida kid not want to come here to school.

Stoops has made some game management mistakes, its a learning process, Smart will make some for us next year too, first time coaches do that. They have to learn from them and not continue to make the same mistakes over and over.

 

[Blueaz]

Mike Leach is a proven coach that has won at every HC stop. He did at Lubbock and Pullman. He has been to two bowls the past four years. You think a coach that took UK to a bowl in year two would be fired in year three? Hell, Stoops is here with a weaker record than Joker after year three.

Leach>Stoops. That's facts.

if he were here, pullmam would not have happened...and the pirate would be gone after three years. no doubt about it.

 

[Levibooty]

Mike Leach is a proven coach that has won at every HC stop. He did at Lubbock and Pullman. He has been to two bowls the past four years. You think a coach that took UK to a bowl in year two would be fired in year three? Hell, Stoops is here with a weaker record than Joker after year three.

Leach>Stoops. That's facts.

Well there may be a kernel of truth there but it actually could have more to do with their age and experience than ability. I was not anti-Leach and I like some of his methods but he also brings some baggage with him. I think he was treated poorly down at TTU but he did almost nothing to avoid that situation and certainly nourished the environment for such controversy. He can be like a DeMarcus Cousins Lite in the coaching ranks---he can't get out of his own way.

Facts are this, UK plays in the premier conference in the world of college football and when Stoops arrived he had a mid-MAC level of talent on the roster. Thats hard to overcome in a short period of time for anybody. Refer to Jeff Brohms statement of 6 years minimum.

While these opinions are not facts I think they are worth considering.

• The SEC is much better defending the Aid Raid now than when Leach was here.
• The Pac-12 will not defend the Air Raid as well as the SEC
• Leach would not have been as successful recruiting at Kentucky as Stoops has been.
• Linemen are the positions that take the longest to develop
• The dearth of linemen at Kentucky is its biggest challenge
• Unlike Joker Stoops is having to face the challenge of the decimated roster Joker left.
• Leach is 20-29 at Pullman (sorry that is a fact) Which leads us to another fact:

Mike Leach's record at WASU is not as good as Stoops is at Kentucky their first three years. 12-25 vs 12-24

 

[law1127]

Grumpyolddawg has it right and people either don't want admit it or it doesn't fit their agenda!

 

[sefus12]

There's a huge flaw in this statement. Those things DIDNT happen. So why I assume? I'm sure of stoops was doing a good job, so many fans wouldn't be upset. But me as well as many other fans invest in this program and get screwed over, over and over again by promises from people such as stoops that they do not fullfill. The manner in which we lost the UL, Vandy games and other games. Is why we're upset. Horrible play calling (worst OC in D1), horrible game management by stoops. Like have you watched the games this year? Did you see stoops coaching mistakes that he made time after time every game multiple times a game? (I'll name numerous examples if need be), you do realize our coaching staff has ZERO experience at the OC, DC, and HC positions? And that we do play in the SEC right? You do realize the decisions stoops made for putting together a staff were woeful at best and a recipe for failure with a zero % chance at success in the SEC? You WILL NOT succeed in the SEC with no experience at OC, DC, and HC. Idk why that's so hard to believe. But we seriously are a part of the SEC conference and these are our coaches. You've actually seen such incompetence from a coaching staff before (as far as game management goes)? Very impressive if so. Kudos.

I said next year.

 

[JW PRPcoach]

To sum up the entire thread: We better hope Stoops grows into the job. I doubt we will ever get a coach with the recruiting prowess of Stoops that also is a supreme game planner/manager - those are EXTREMELY hard to find.

 

[shutzhund]

Grumpyolddawg has it right and people either don't want admit it or it doesn't fit their agenda!

……..or, after reading some of the posts, don't understand it.

I'm neither a Stoops fan or hater. Probably more on the coach's side because of the dumpster fire they inherited. The absence of knowledge, about our former situation, makes ignorance too weak a description for most of the haters.

 

[andreIGUODOLLAsigns4UK]

Grumpyolddawg has it right and people either don't want admit it or it doesn't fit their agenda!

Lol. We have zero experience at OC, DC, and HC. I bet you Kirby smart hires some experienced staff members. So the growing pains for UGA will be nowhere near the same. Stoops on the other hand. Hired a staff full of inexperience. Said it numerous times. No experience at the OC, DC, and HC will never get it done in the SEC. Ever. Especially at UK. It just won't happen. It's as much of a given as 1 + 1 = 2. Dawson doesn't have a clue how to do his job. And stoops will hold onto him for the sole fact he hired him and he's not gonna fire anyone he's hired. And those are the facts. Do I have an agenda because I don't think we have any experience at the OC, DC, and HC? No that's a fact that we don't have experience at those positions. So please shut the hell up saying people have an agenda if they don't agree with you and grump. Bout the dumbest thing I've read in a while. Just because they are kentuckys coaches. Doesn't make them good at what they do. Donning the blue and white doesn't automatically make you a good coach. Jeez.

 

[Beatle Bum]

Any fan who thinks UK gets better by canning coaches has no clue. Any fan who thinks UK gets better by retaining all of its coaches does not have clue. Even for the HC, changing coaches is a crap shoot.

 

[Levibooty]

DM

 

[Levibooty]

Lol. We have zero experience at OC, DC, and HC. I bet you Kirby smart hires some experienced staff members. So the growing pains for UGA will be nowhere near the same. Stoops on the other hand. Hired a staff full of inexperience. Said it numerous times. No experience at the OC, DC, and HC will never get it done in the SEC. Ever. Especially at UK. It just won't happen. It's as much of a given as 1 + 1 = 2. Dawson doesn't have a clue how to do his job. And stoops will hold onto him for the sole fact he hired him and he's not gonna fire anyone he's hired. And those are the facts. Do I have an agenda because I don't think we have any experience at the OC, DC, and HC? No that's a fact that we don't have experience at those positions. So please shut the hell up saying people have an agenda if they don't agree with you and grump. Bout the dumbest thing I've read in a while. Just because they are kentuckys coaches. Doesn't make them good at what they do. Donning the blue and white doesn't automatically make you a good coach. Jeez.

Actually I don't think you have a clue how hyperbolic you come off.

 

[gobigblue812_rivals29381]

Lol. We have zero experience at OC, DC, and HC. I bet you Kirby smart hires some experienced staff members. So the growing pains for UGA will be nowhere near the same. Stoops on the other hand. Hired a staff full of inexperience. Said it numerous times. No experience at the OC, DC, and HC will never get it done in the SEC. Ever. Especially at UK. It just won't happen. It's as much of a given as 1 + 1 = 2. Dawson doesn't have a clue how to do his job. And stoops will hold onto him for the sole fact he hired him and he's not gonna fire anyone he's hired. And those are the facts. Do I have an agenda because I don't think we have any experience at the OC, DC, and HC? No that's a fact that we don't have experience at those positions. So please shut the hell up saying people have an agenda if they don't agree with you and grump. Bout the dumbest thing I've read in a while. Just because they are kentuckys coaches. Doesn't make them good at what they do. Donning the blue and white doesn't automatically make you a good coach. Jeez.

Can somebody tell me how to use the ignore option?

 

[Shavers48]

Well there may be a kernel of truth there but it actually could have more to do with their age and experience than ability. I was not anti-Leach and I like some of his methods but he also brings some baggage with him. I think he was treated poorly down at TTU but he did almost nothing to avoid that situation and certainly nourished the environment for such controversy. He can be like a DeMarcus Cousins Lite in the coaching ranks---he can't get out of his own way.

Facts are this, UK plays in the premier conference in the world of college football and when Stoops arrived he had a mid-MAC level of talent on the roster. Thats hard to overcome in a short period of time for anybody. Refer to Jeff Brohms statement of 6 years minimum.

While these opinions are not facts I think they are worth considering.

• The SEC is much better defending the Aid Raid now than when Leach was here.
• The Pac-12 will not defend the Air Raid as well as the SEC
• Leach would not have been as successful recruiting at Kentucky as Stoops has been.
• Linemen are the positions that take the longest to develop
• The dearth of linemen at Kentucky is its biggest challenge
• Unlike Joker Stoops is having to face the challenge of the decimated roster Joker left.
• Leach is 20-29 at Pullman (sorry that is a fact) Which leads us to another fact:

Mike Leach's record at WASU is not as good as Stoops is at Kentucky their first three years. 12-25 vs 12-24

can't wait to see the comparison after 4 years. and the Pac12/Sec comparison tightens up quite a bit when you make it P12 North v Sec East

 

[andreIGUODOLLAsigns4UK]

Can somebody tell me how to use the ignore option?

lol pathetic that it upsets you so much to hear the truth to where you gotta run away from it. Dumb as can be man

 

[Levibooty]

can't wait to see the comparison after 4 years. and the Pac12/Sec comparison tightens up quite a bit when you make it P12 North v Sec East

I can understand why anybody that is a Leach fan would like that idea right now. I still think it is a steeper climb to improve a cellar dweller in the SEC than it is in the PAC-12.

Like I said I'n not anti-Leach but I do think our fans have a penchant for the Bill curry idea of program building. That being fire and hire.

 

[kyjohn]

I honestly don't think there is a more difficult job in college football than the UK job.If you think in terms of getting to bowl eligibility , competing on a every game basis and even when you recruit on a top 20 level you are still 10th in your conference.

we didn't get the nickname "the graveyard of coaches" by accident. We are about a year or so away from putting up the next headstone

Did you ever think the reason for this is because UK keeps hiring incompetent people to coach their football team?