This is one reason why I like Trump

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ABC whining because they are not being called upon by Trump. They are ticked that he is calling on "conservative" outlets instead. They call them soft ball questions. Shall if post all the soft ball question Obama received from the MSM? It would fill an encyclopedia.

Why call on MSM when they have proven their corruption? Keep it up Donald. Go around the corrupt media. He is holding a huge rally this weekend. Use forums like that to get your message out. You can't count on MSM to be fair and honest.

BTW, they complain that the questions to Bibi and Trump were about Israel. Wow. Imagine asking the Israeli PM and the President about the Middle East and Israel's role. Shocking.

http://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb...tack-conservative-media-not-asking-real-tough
 

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Obama Shadow Government.....[roll]
 
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ABC whining because they are not being called upon by Trump. They are ticked that he is calling on "conservative" outlets instead. They call them soft ball questions. Shall if post all the soft ball question Obama received from the MSM? It would fill an encyclopedia.

Why call on MSM when they have proven their corruption? Keep it up Donald. Go around the corrupt media. He is holding a huge rally this weekend. Use forums like that to get your message out. You can't count on MSM to be fair and honest.

BTW, they complain that the questions to Bibi and Trump were about Israel. Wow. Imagine asking the Israeli PM and the President about the Middle East and Israel's role. Shocking.

http://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb...tack-conservative-media-not-asking-real-tough
But in other posts you said you didn't like Trump, only the policies. Which is it?
 

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But in other posts you said you didn't like Trump, only the policies. Which is it?

I do like Trump the fighter. The MSM has been corrupt for years. Many on the right have simply stooped down and taken it. This is policy related in that he will not let the leftwing media define his policies. He will take his policy positions directly to the people cutting out the corrupt MSM.
 

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We've had this discussion before, but I've never asked you this question: Is there any media you trust and why?

I don't trust many in the media. They live in a cloistered bubble from NYC to DC. When the chief editor of the NY Times admits they don't understand religion, how can they be trusted in anything conservative? When almost every anchor on each network is a liberal, how can we trust them? When CNN collaborates with the Clinton campaign, how can we trust them? When the Chief Political Correspondent for CNN emails a fellow liberal Democrat claiming that she just returned from GOP hell, how can we trust them. When the Wash Post runs 11 articles in a single day, all demeaning of Trump, how can we trust them. When 91% of all Trump coverage during the general election was negative, how can we trust them? CBS and Dan Rather try and take down Bush. NBC fraudulently edits 911 tape of George Zimmerman to make him appear racist. The MSM all said Michael Brown was shot in the back with this hands in the air. WRONG, as proven by the Obama/Holder DOJ. I could go on and on.

They highlight their diversity, except for one kind, ideological. Polls show the overwhelming percentage of journalists are liberal. Polls show they are pro choice, anti-gun, anti-Citizens United, pro gay marriage, etc.

The MSM is being systematically destroyed. Trust is at an all time low. New outlets appear almost daily. Their monopoly is over and that is a good thing.
 
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I don't trust many in the media. They live in a cloistered bubble from NYC to DC. When the chief editor of the NY Times admits they don't understand religion, how can they be trusted in anything conservative? When almost every anchor on each network is a liberal, how can we trust them? When CNN collaborates with the Clinton campaign, how can we trust them? When the Chief Political Correspondent for CNN emails a fellow liberal Democrat claiming that she just returned from GOP hell, how can we trust them. When the Wash Post runs 11 articles in a single day, all demeaning of Trump, how can we trust them. When 91% of all Trump coverage during the general election was negative, how can we trust them? CBS and Dan Rather try and take down Bush. NBC fraudulently edits 911 tape of George Zimmerman to make him appear racist. The MSM all said Michael Brown was shot in the back with this hands in the air. WRONG, as proven by the Obama/Holder DOJ. I could go on and on.

They highlight their diversity, except for one kind, ideological. Polls show the overwhelming percentage of journalists are liberal. Polls show they are pro choice, anti-gun, anti-Citizens United, pro gay marriage, etc.

The MSM is being systematically destroyed. Trust is at an all time low. New outlets appear almost daily. Their monopoly is over and that is a good thing.
So who do you trust?
 

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So who do you trust?

I trust the Economist. I trust Business Insider. I trust Fox News (hard news coverage, since Shep Smith is a liberal and Chris Wallace, a registered Democrat. I trust CSpan. I trust CSM. I also think that Reuters tries much harder to be fair than their competition, the A/P. As an aggregator, I like Real Clear Politics.

Who do you trust?
 

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And where do you get it?

No one answer to that really WVex-pat in GA. I liken it to a Police Detective who investigates a crime for presentation to a Prosecutor against a suspect. You follow the evidence, and allow it to point you to as close as you can assemble how that crime happened as is humanly possible.

In the major Media, I think it's dangerous to trust only their "sources". So in my opinion what they report has to be balanced against other facts, compared to what actually happened or is true. They frequently "lie with the Truth"...they report on something similar that actually happened, but they often leave out critical pieces of information or twist certain facts to fit their analysis of the actual reality. More importantly (something sorely missing in their reporting) is context, perspective, history, analysis.

They go into complex issues with a built in perception of what the reality is "how the crime was committed" in this analogy, and report their bias as fact--either eliminating all other data or evidence or simply ignoring it so it doesn't interfere with the opinion(s) they've already formed.

I have no trust in them at all. I don't believe them, I don't watch them, I don't have any confidence in anything they report as being "factual". I try to diversify where my information comes from, and surprisingly amidst all of that alternative available source information, I can make up my mind what's probably closer to the Truth if not the exact reflection of it better than anything they can try to convince me is otherwise.
 
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I trust the Economist. I trust Business Insider. I trust Fox News (hard news coverage, since Shep Smith is a liberal and Chris Wallace, a registered Democrat. I trust CSpan. I trust CSM. I also think that Reuters tries much harder to be fair than their competition, the A/P.

Who do you trust?
I'm good with everything on your list except for FOX, I find them to be about as bad as the others. I tend to try to use multiple sources if there is something I'm really interested in, I'll read many articles on the same subject and try to find what may be the truth although it is harder. I'm not much on TV news as I feel they do tend to pander to a particular audience and ratings, although I do like Morning Joe (Scarborough) but mostly for the entertainment factor.
 

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I'm good with everything on your list except for FOX, I find them to be about as bad as the others. I tend to try to use multiple sources if there is something I'm really interested in, I'll read many articles on the same subject and try to find what may be the truth although it is harder. I'm not much on TV news as I feel they do tend to pander to a particular audience and ratings, although I do like Morning Joe (Scarborough) but mostly for the entertainment factor.

Obviously, I disagree on Fox. I am only speaking of their hard news, not their analysts. Shep Smith is a liberal, and no one at Fox denies that. I know very few people that deny that, at least those that have watched him. Chris Wallace is a Democrat with a famous Democrat father. I think he is tough but fair to both sides. I liken him a bit to Tim Russert. Russert worked for Dems but was both tough and fair to both sides. Wallace fits in that mold.

I am not talking about O'Reilly, Carlson or Hannity. They are right for sure.
 
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Obviously, I disagree on Fox. I am only speaking of their hard news, not their analysts. Shep Smith is a liberal, and no one at Fox denies that. I know very few people that deny that, at least those that have watched him. Chris Wallace is a Democrat with a famous Democrat father. I think he is tough but fair to both sides. I liken him a bit to Tim Russert. Russert worked for Dems but was both tough and fair to both sides. Wallace fits in that mold.

I am not talking about O'Reilly, Carlson or Hannity. They are right for sure.
Understand, just don't care for FOX. But I may be biased because I dislike Rupert Murdoch. I'm only human....
 

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I trust the Economist. I trust Business Insider. I trust Fox News (hard news coverage, since Shep Smith is a liberal and Chris Wallace, a registered Democrat. I trust CSpan. I trust CSM. I also think that Reuters tries much harder to be fair than their competition, the A/P. As an aggregator, I like Real Clear Politics.

Who do you trust?

The Economist acknowledges global warming and advocates a carbon tax. I subscribe to The Economist and read it every week and I must say that you do not come off as anything resembling someone that agrees with The Economist.
 

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The Economist acknowledges global warming and advocates a carbon tax. I subscribe to The Economist and read it every week and I must say that you do not come off as anything resembling someone that agrees with The Economist.

They also seem to like deregulation, free enterprise, and privatization. Go figure.
 

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The Economist acknowledges global warming and advocates a carbon tax. I subscribe to The Economist and read it every week and I must say that you do not come off as anything resembling someone that agrees with The Economist.

I find this hard to believe.

I'm not saying you're lying, but if you read the Economist weekly Op2, in my opinion you need to start taking more notes because quite frankly some of the things you've posted regarding simple basic economic concepts often leave me wondering if you understand even the most rudimentary economic principles?

I don't want to assume that so I'm simply questioning based on what you've stated here in certain threads on the OT board, and this statement that you regularly read and I assume understand The Economist.
 

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I find this hard to believe.

I'm not saying you're lying, but if you read the Economist weekly Op2, in my opinion you need to start taking more notes because quite frankly some of the things you've posted regarding simple basic economic concepts often leave me wondering if you understand even the most rudimentary economic principles?

I don't want to assume that so I'm simply questioning based on what you've stated here in certain threads on the OT board, and this statement that you regularly read and I assume understand The Economist.

He may only be reading about global warming and carbon taxes, lol.
 

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Understand, just don't care for FOX. But I may be biased because I dislike Rupert Murdoch. I'm only human....

WVex-pat in GA here is my regular reading list... just FYI, not saying this is the "go to" list...just what I read:

Financial Times, Investor's Business Daily, The Economist.com, Stratfor.com, The Christian Science Monitor daily news service, WorldNetDaily, American Thinker, American Spectator, The Wall Street Journal (Editorial pages) Real Clear Politics.com, Townhall.com, and as an aggregate Drudgereport.com.

I supplement that standard reading list which has a Right leaning flavor with occasional reads from the Left, but I visit them so infrequently they're not worth mentioning on this list as a daily regimen for me.

I don't do much if any Broadcast media, but I do listen to Sirius (Patriot Radio) Hugh Hewitt (Salem Radio) on some mornings, and occasionally some evenings when I can catch a podcast without commercials I'll listen to some of Mark Levin's rebroadcasts.

I'm on the Right, so I obviously favor listening to that type of programming more so than the Sunday T-V or morning talking head shows.
 
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He may only be reading about global warming and carbon taxes, lol.

Ha,ha...good one PAX!

Yes, I think that might very well be his "go to" source on that particular topic.

Very funny
 

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Obviously, I disagree on Fox. I am only speaking of their hard news, not their analysts. Shep Smith is a liberal, and no one at Fox denies that. I know very few people that deny that, at least those that have watched him. Chris Wallace is a Democrat with a famous Democrat father. I think he is tough but fair to both sides. I liken him a bit to Tim Russert. Russert worked for Dems but was both tough and fair to both sides. Wallace fits in that mold.

I am not talking about O'Reilly, Carlson or Hannity. They are right for sure.
I take ALL the alphabet (fake news) stations,pour them in a pot..bring to roiling boil. ..take BOTH hands (with oven mit)...cautiously open the back door and rinse the dog turds off of my patio. ..
 

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I take ALL the alphabet (fake news) stations,pour them in a pot..bring to roiling boil. ..take BOTH hands (with oven mit)...cautiously open the back door and rinse the dog turds off of my patio. ..

Now THAT'S funny!!!!!
 

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ABC whining because they are not being called upon by Trump. They are ticked that he is calling on "conservative" outlets instead. They call them soft ball questions. Shall if post all the soft ball question Obama received from the MSM? It would fill an encyclopedia.

Why call on MSM when they have proven their corruption? Keep it up Donald. Go around the corrupt media. He is holding a huge rally this weekend. Use forums like that to get your message out. You can't count on MSM to be fair and honest.

BTW, they complain that the questions to Bibi and Trump were about Israel. Wow. Imagine asking the Israeli PM and the President about the Middle East and Israel's role. Shocking.

http://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb...tack-conservative-media-not-asking-real-tough
Trump is scared of tough questions, biggest crybaby ever. That is all.
 

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I don't trust many in the media. They live in a cloistered bubble from NYC to DC. When the chief editor of the NY Times admits they don't understand religion, how can they be trusted in anything conservative? When almost every anchor on each network is a liberal, how can we trust them? When CNN collaborates with the Clinton campaign, how can we trust them? When the Chief Political Correspondent for CNN emails a fellow liberal Democrat claiming that she just returned from GOP hell, how can we trust them. When the Wash Post runs 11 articles in a single day, all demeaning of Trump, how can we trust them. When 91% of all Trump coverage during the general election was negative, how can we trust them? CBS and Dan Rather try and take down Bush. NBC fraudulently edits 911 tape of George Zimmerman to make him appear racist. The MSM all said Michael Brown was shot in the back with this hands in the air. WRONG, as proven by the Obama/Holder DOJ. I could go on and on.

They highlight their diversity, except for one kind, ideological. Polls show the overwhelming percentage of journalists are liberal. Polls show they are pro choice, anti-gun, anti-Citizens United, pro gay marriage, etc.

The MSM is being systematically destroyed. Trust is at an all time low. New outlets appear almost daily. Their monopoly is over and that is a good thing.
When all the so called prez does is lie, how is he above any of it?
 

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Trump is scared of tough questions, biggest crybaby ever. That is all.

Really, really bad timing on your post. Shows just how out of touch you are. Trump just held another press conference that lasted more than an hour. Many lib journalists called upon, including CNN. Yeah, he's shaking in his boots.
 

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Really, really bad timing on your post. Shows just how out of touch you are. Trump just held another press conference that lasted more than an hour. Many lib journalists called upon, including CNN. Yeah, he's shaking in his boots.
Sorry but he doesn't get a medal for answering press questions.
 

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I find this hard to believe.

I'm not saying you're lying, but if you read the Economist weekly Op2, in my opinion you need to start taking more notes because quite frankly some of the things you've posted regarding simple basic economic concepts often leave me wondering if you understand even the most rudimentary economic principles?

I don't want to assume that so I'm simply questioning based on what you've stated here in certain threads on the OT board, and this statement that you regularly read and I assume understand The Economist.

Yes, I read The Economist every week. After having some communications with you on here I think perhaps you should consider that the reason you have a distorted view of me is that you're not a good listener/reader of what I write.
 

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Sorry but he doesn't get a medal for answering press questions.

This is just too easy.

You posted this:

"Trump is scared of tough questions, biggest crybaby ever. That is all."

While you were posting this, Trump was having a press conference calling on all sorts of libs who were asking tough questions. Then you post this:

"Sorry but he doesn't get a medal for answering press questions."

Wow, your "logic" changed so fast, it made my head hurt.

Let me try and decipher:

He is too scared to let the press ask tough questions. But when you learn he let them, you ignore your first post for being completely incorrect and jump to the fact that while he did answer tough questions, he deserves no credit or "medals."

Which is it? Is he afraid? And if he is afraid but asks anyway, he deserves no credit? LMAO.
 

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This is just too easy.

You posted this:

"Trump is scared of tough questions, biggest crybaby ever. That is all."

While you were posting this, Trump was having a press conference calling on all sorts of libs who were asking tough questions. Then you post this:

"Sorry but he doesn't get a medal for answering press questions."

Wow, your "logic" changed so fast, it made my head hurt.

Let me try and decipher:

He is too scared to let the press ask tough questions. But when you learn he let them, you ignore your first post for being completely incorrect and jump to the fact that while he did answer tough questions, he deserves no credit or "medals."

Which is it? Is he afraid? And if he is afraid but asks anyway, he deserves no credit? LMAO.
See again you make up things but you're a born liar so it comes natural to you. It is true that he's afraid of tough questions but I didn't say that he'd never taken any or that he wouldn't. Even the prez can't hide forever. It's part of every president's responsibility to answer to the media. Unless something had changed, he will primarily take questions from bootlicker bloggers mostly.
 

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See again you make up things but you're a born liar so it comes natural to you. It is true that he's afraid of tough questions but I didn't say that he'd never taken any or that he wouldn't. Even the prez can't hide forever. It's part of every president's responsibility to answer to the media. Unless something had changed, he will primarily take questions from bootlicker bloggers mostly.

Nice try at CYA. But anyone can read your posts. And you call me a liar, lol.
 

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Yes, I read The Economist every week. After having some communications with you on here I think perhaps you should consider that the reason you have a distorted view of me is that you're not a good listener/reader of what I write.

No Sir, I read exactly what you write and at times wonder if you truly believe or understand what you type?
 

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Yes, I read The Economist every week. After having some communications with you on here I think perhaps you should consider that the reason you have a distorted view of me is that you're not a good listener/reader of what I write.
Yes, I read The Economist every week. After having some communications with you on here I think perhaps you should consider that the reason you have a distorted view of me is that you're not a good listener/reader of what I write.

Would you like me to repost what you wrote recently about supply and demand, or price vs cost for a business?

Or how about "negative externalities"?

Real sound economics from you there Op2.
 

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Would you like me to repost what you wrote recently about supply and demand, or price vs cost for a business?

Or how about "negative externalities"?

Real sound economics from you there Op2.

Yes, post them. Post it on context without editing though. I maybe have misspoke or mistyped on something but generally I think what I post on here is reasonable.
 

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Yes, post them. Post it on context without editing though. I maybe have misspoke or mistyped on something but generally I think what I post on here is reasonable.

OK, give me some time to find it, I'll post the links to the threads OK?
 
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ABC whining because they are not being called upon by Trump. They are ticked that he is calling on "conservative" outlets instead. They call them soft ball questions. Shall if post all the soft ball question Obama received from the MSM? It would fill an encyclopedia.

Why call on MSM when they have proven their corruption? Keep it up Donald. Go around the corrupt media. He is holding a huge rally this weekend. Use forums like that to get your message out. You can't count on MSM to be fair and honest.

BTW, they complain that the questions to Bibi and Trump were about Israel. Wow. Imagine asking the Israeli PM and the President about the Middle East and Israel's role. Shocking.

http://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb...tack-conservative-media-not-asking-real-tough

You didn't like him yesterday.
 

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I do like Trump the fighter. The MSM has been corrupt for years. Many on the right have simply stooped down and taken it. This is policy related in that he will not let the leftwing media define his policies. He will take his policy positions directly to the people cutting out the corrupt MSM.
Trump "the fighter"? It's really all just a massive amount of ********.....you bought into a giant con job. Let's hope we still have a nation in 4