This is worse than a GA 5 star recruit turning us down...

[gdogg]

Mississippi Press- Alabama/Mississippi All Star Classic
12/9/09
Article concerning kids using this game for exposure to recruiters:

"'On the flipside, you have some kids who will hopefully use this week as a springboard to get some looks.'</p>

Several players have helped their recruiting status by their performances in the Classic over the years, with the most notable being former Baldwin County standout Wallace Gilberry.</p>

The defensive end had no major-college offers and was headed to a junior college before an impressive performance in the 2003 Classic landed him a scholarship offer from Alabama. Gilberry set a UA school record for tackles for loss and is now a member of the Kansas City Chiefs."

Now, how does a State or Ole Miss not know everything about every kid in MS, enough to make well informed decisions on kids like this. The guy performed well enough to make it to the High School AllStar game and now is in the NFL and could have come through Starkville on his way.

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[patdog]

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[8dog]

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[gdogg]

I thought it was referring to a MS kid due to it being published in the MS Press. But my point is the kids are out there and Bama, AU, and LSU can't sign them all. Boise State has made a living off of the California kids that didn't get an offer from USC, and UCLA. Only now are they a legit target for "A" recruits. Why can't we find that niche? Just saying.

 

[8dog]

and you said Bama can't sign them all but they signed the very player you are using as an example.

Hell, that's pretty much all Croom signed was guys no one else wanted. They just don't normally turn out to be NFL players.

 

[dawgstudent]

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[patdog]

Hell, that's pretty much all Croom signed was guys no one else wanted. They just don't normally turn out to be NFL players.

You can't look at the 1 out of 100 success story and just say, hey we need to find our niche by finding all the good players that everybody else missed. You start going down that road too far and it'll make even the Crxxm years look good.

 

[UpTheMiddlex3Punt]

Let's say there are 40 players per team, 4 schools per county, and about 80 counties in Mississippi. That's about 13,000 football players in the state. With over 3,000 graduating every year, it would be a tall order to ask the coaching staff to look at each of them. That is what it would take to find a diamond in the rough. Looking at them all.

Besides, we do find diamonds in the rough. Hell, even Crooms found Titus Brown, who was hiding in Bama's backyard. As depressed as some of us are about Mullen's recruiting class this year, we might have a few guys that turn out well. I imagine if the recruiting gurus were really good at finding the best recruits they would be hired and paid well into 6-figure salaries by top universities.

 

[Curly Bill]

Studs baby

 

[futaba.79]

so apparently Alabama, LSU and the rest don't sign them all.

 

[DawgatAuburn]

Boise State has made a living off of the California kids that didn't get an offer from USC, and UCLA. Only now are they a legit target for "A" recruits. Why can't we find that niche? Just saying.

NugDawg (the sixpack's official mortgage lender) sent me this last night. You might find it interesting. Boise is not getting "A" recruits.

Boise hasn't had but 3 recruits rated a 4 star on Scout.com since 2005 and two of those were JUCO's and Scout has a tendency to over-rate JUCO's like that.

TCU is even worse. They have had 1 4 Star WR in 2007 and nothing else and I went back to the 2005 class. Most all of there classes were loaded with 2 star guys. Very few even 3 star.

This is all coaching, both in terms of scheme and fundamentals etc along with great evaluations by the staff of indentifying players that fit their system.

 

[gdogg]

We have to be the school that thinks and acts unconventional when it comes to recruiting. Doing it like you did it at Florida where they are truely, "swimming to the boat" will not work at MSU</p>

 

[8dog]

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[Johnson85]

Besides, we do find diamonds in the rough...As depressed as some of us are about Mullen's recruiting class this year, we might have a few guys that turn out well....

but at this point I'll be satisfied with recruits that can be coached well enough to beat Kentucky and CUSA teams. Then we just need an extra SEC win or two to get into a bowl consistently, at which point hopefully recruiting will get a little easier. I was hoping that what Mullen was able to do with this team against the hardest schedule in the nation would boost recruiting, but the reality is that if Mullen can simply improve what Croom was able to do at qb (basically taken care of by coaching Relf and Russell), it seems pretty clear his coaching with the same quality of recruits Croom brought in will be good enough to get the OOC wins against patsies that Croom couldn't get.

As depressing as it is, that's a an improvement and I guess the reasonable expectation regarding the future.

 

[gdogg]

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[Curly Bill]

running a spread offense in a state full of spread type athletes? By utilizing JUCOs to get extra talent in here? By trying to paint yourself as THE Mississippi University? And basically working your *** off?

Yeah, conventional. If anything, it was Mullen's predecessor, who basically sat back and thought players would swim to him.

 

[smootness]

I'm not really sure what you're suggesting. You want us to just go around and find a bunch of guys that nobody else has noticed or offered? So instead of getting the classes we're getting now, where we get some guys who aren't offered by many teams and some that are big-time recruits and offered by basically everyone around them, you want us to go solely after the guys who nobody else wants? So you want us to bring in worse recruiting classes than we already do? Huh?

Basically, your options are to either go after kids that other people want or go after kids that other people don't want. We're either doing exactly what you want or doing better than you want; either way, why would you be displeased with the way we're currently recruiting?

And I don't think Boise State is thinking unconventionally when it comes to recruiting; they're getting the best players they can get and coaching them up, same as everyone else, and they happen to play in the WAC; if they tried to compete in the SEC with that level of talent, it wouldn't fly. What would you like us to do that's unconventional? Bring in guys that are short, fat, and slow? Bring in volleyball players? Perhaps some cats to run around?

 

[SLUdog]

and must take the weekly beatings of playing in a real conference. Boise would probably win the Pac 10 right now, but I'd like to put them in the SEC to take the weekly beatings. Would they be good? probably, but they'd be 8-4 like a lot of SEC teams. If Dan Mullen can get us to that point I'll be really content.