"This isn't the Big East"....

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has run its course. It's true, WVU is no longer in the Big East, hasn't been in the Big East for ages, it's time to stop recruiting like WVU is still in the Big East, and start recruiting like WVU is in the Big Xii...and winning with Big Xii level talent. So ask yourself, is WVU recruiting like it's in the Big Xii and winning with that talent? And if not, why not.
 

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Current staff is recruiting the talent to win. Will that translate into talent that wins games is yet to be seen. Productivity needs to improve in next 2 to 3 years or somebody's going to inherit a good team.

I feel the only thing missing right now is a quarterback that can complete passes over 20 yards and has ability to run when needed.

Get that QB and you can compete and never finish worse than 3rd or 4th.
 

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Seems as though some schools create special recruiting staff just for the purpose of exceptional recruiting and WVU to date hasn't created something as significant as that.

To be honest, the media plays a huge role in recruiting as well. Both social media and national media.
WVU has to work much harder to make sure that positive messaging about WVU is going out.
 

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Seems as though some schools create special recruiting staff just for the purpose of exceptional recruiting and WVU to date hasn't created something as significant as that.

To be honest, the media plays a huge role in recruiting as well. Both social media and national media.
WVU has to work much harder to make sure that positive messaging about WVU is going out.


You‘re such a tool haha. The national rep that has followed WV and WVU around has been in place forever. No one here made it up. No one here influences the low academic standards WVU gets associated with. If WVU decided not to let everyone in or at least record things differently over 10 years they could do what Pitt did academically. Pitt went from being WVU to being a very respected academic institution in like 10-15 years. WVU just hasn’t put a priority on high academic standing. Sad actually.
 

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A great QB can cover a lot of flaws. We haven’t had one since Greer left. When we get another one we will thrive just like 90% of the programs out there.
 

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Current staff is recruiting the talent to win. Will that translate into talent that wins games is yet to be seen. Productivity needs to improve in next 2 to 3 years or somebody's going to inherit a good team.

I feel the only thing missing right now is a quarterback that can complete passes over 20 yards and has ability to run when needed.

Get that QB and you can compete and never finish worse than 3rd or 4th.
Yeah...want to pile up the "good losses" and strive for that middle of the pack finish. Mediocrity looks so good in old gold and blue.
 

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You‘re such a tool haha. The national rep that has followed WV and WVU around has been in place forever. No one here made it up. No one here influences the low academic standards WVU gets associated with. If WVU decided not to let everyone in or at least record things differently over 10 years they could do what Pitt did academically. Pitt went from being WVU to being a very respected academic institution in like 10-15 years. WVU just hasn’t put a priority on high academic standing. Sad actually.
Talk about a tool. Top notch athletes are not not coming to WVU because one magazine makes up fake academic scores that have little to do with actual academics at the school. WVU is in the top tier of Carnegie research institutions and has many programs as good as anyone. Top athletes dont care if the schools mission allows for higher admissions- they care if they can play in major games vs major competition and have a shot at the pros
 

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Seems as though some schools create special recruiting staff just for the purpose of exceptional recruiting and WVU to date hasn't created something as significant as that.

To be honest, the media plays a huge role in recruiting as well. Both social media and national media.
WVU has to work much harder to make sure that positive messaging about WVU is going out.
False. Go back delete and try again.
 

Pitt4Life34

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Talk about a tool. Top notch athletes are not not coming to WVU because one magazine makes up fake academic scores that have little to do with actual academics at the school. WVU is in the top tier of Carnegie research institutions and has many programs as good as anyone. Top athletes dont care if the schools mission allows for higher admissions- they care if they can play in major games vs major competition and have a shot at the pros


LOL at the little brother Fvckaineer 😂. You’re the insecure homer geek that brought up national rep hurting recruiting efforts. “WVU has to work much harder to make sure the positive messaging about WVU is getting out”. My point stand geek. WVUs national rep isn’t changing until WVU cleans up its academic reputation. Just because some WVU homer fanboy, you, posts WVU goodies on an anonymous site doesn’t mean it’s resonating around the country. Crawl back under your college football expansion rock fanboy.
 

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has run its course. It's true, WVU is no longer in the Big East, hasn't been in the Big East for ages, it's time to stop recruiting like WVU is still in the Big East, and start recruiting like WVU is in the Big Xii...and winning with Big Xii level talent. So ask yourself, is WVU recruiting like it's in the Big Xii and winning with that talent? And if not, why not.
Holgs wasnt at the end...especially at the most important position on the field....We are still trying to fix his ****** last two years of recruiting.
 
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Big East, Southern Conference, Big 12, independent, WVU has had ONE undefeated season in his history, Doc Spears' 1922 team that won the national title. So why are we railing today that the Mountaineers aren't winning the Big 12. They didn't run roughshod over the Big East year and year, or the Southern Conference or as an independent, except for 1922. Yet people act this century is an anomaly when it's a pattern that has existed for a long time. It's where we are in the sports firmament. I still enjoy watching my alma mater, enough to buy season tickets, parking pass and contribute extra to the MAC for more than 30 years. Man, see the silver lining. Dark clouds just make you another Joe Btfsplk. Oldtimers will know who he is.
 

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Big East, Southern Conference, Big 12, independent, WVU has had ONE undefeated season in his history, Doc Spears' 1922 team that won the national title. So why are we railing today that the Mountaineers aren't winning the Big 12. They didn't run roughshod over the Big East year and year, or the Southern Conference or as an independent, except for 1922. Yet people act this century is an anomaly when it's a pattern that has existed for a long time. It's where we are in the sports firmament. I still enjoy watching my alma mater, enough to buy season tickets, parking pass and contribute extra to the MAC for more than 30 years. Man, see the silver lining. Dark clouds just make you another Joe Btfsplk. Oldtimers will know who he is.
You left out the parts about your vigorous golf schedule...hefty bank account...numerous journalism awards...names of sports icons you mentored...and your all consumming love for Mumbling Joe Biden. Come on we are all in suspense!
 

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Big East, Southern Conference, Big 12, independent, WVU has had ONE undefeated season in his history, Doc Spears' 1922 team that won the national title. So why are we railing today that the Mountaineers aren't winning the Big 12. They didn't run roughshod over the Big East year and year, or the Southern Conference or as an independent, except for 1922. Yet people act this century is an anomaly when it's a pattern that has existed for a long time. It's where we are in the sports firmament. I still enjoy watching my alma mater, enough to buy season tickets, parking pass and contribute extra to the MAC for more than 30 years. Man, see the silver lining. Dark clouds just make you another Joe Btfsplk. Oldtimers will know who he is.
Take a pic of that National Championship banner or stop lying.
 

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has run its course. It's true, WVU is no longer in the Big East, hasn't been in the Big East for ages, it's time to stop recruiting like WVU is still in the Big East, and start recruiting like WVU is in the Big Xii...and winning with Big Xii level talent. So ask yourself, is WVU recruiting like it's in the Big Xii and winning with that talent? And if not, why not.
WVU is never going to recruit at a elite level no matter who is the coach. It's also rarely going to contend for Big 12 titles. It rarely contended for the strong Big East. Remember the beat downs from PSU(a OOC opp back then) every year? The games were only close during the Major Harris era and he nailed them once out of three. People need to come to terms that WVU does not have the resources to be a national power. It's not going to happen. Every now and then WVU will field a special team or a little above average team that has a special QB to make an occasional run.
 

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WVU is never going to recruit at a elite level no matter who is the coach. It's also rarely going to contend for Big 12 titles. It rarely contended for the strong Big East. Remember the beat downs from PSU(a OOC opp back then) every year? The games were only close during the Major Harris era and he nailed them once out of three. People need to come to terms that WVU does not have the resources to be a national power. It's not going to happen. Every now and then WVU will field a special team or a little above average team that has a special QB to make an occasional run.
You can always move on and become a Herd soccer fan so you won't have to be embarrassed all the time.
 

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Actually Bruno is right with the addition that Wv...Wvu...and Mountaineer fans seemingly wallow in the glow of acceptable mediocrity.
 

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What’s this about? Who’s quote is that?

Anyhow, we haven’t come close to the football talent level we had in the end days of the Big East.

Want to argue that point? Go look at the last seven NFL drafts
 

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Holgs wasnt at the end...especially at the most important position on the field....We are still trying to fix his ****** last two years of recruiting.
Yet a majority of the last 2 Seasons Star players and best talent are from those "******" classes. Weird.

Hey, who's WR recruits were better? Who's RB recruits were better? Who's DB recruits were better? Ect
 
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WVU is never going to recruit at a elite level no matter who is the coach. It's also rarely going to contend for Big 12 titles. It rarely contended for the strong Big East. Remember the beat downs from PSU(a OOC opp back then) every year? The games were only close during the Major Harris era and he nailed them once out of three. People need to come to terms that WVU does not have the resources to be a national power. It's not going to happen. Every now and then WVU will field a special team or a little above average team that has a special QB to make an occasional run.

"People need to come to terms that WVU does not have the resources to be a national power. "

Since the only national title came in 1922 under Doc Spears it's difficult to dispute that statement. Nehlen came close but lost to Notre Dame. Rich lost to Pitt and South Florida and prevented a national playoffs appearance. Since Doc Spears had the ONLY undefeated team in WVU history it's ridiculous for fans to think that we are Alabama. But I enjoy watching my alma mater. I'd be thrilled with a Big 12 championship as the icing on the cake. Realism and fans rarely meet.
 
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What’s this about? Who’s quote is that?

Anyhow, we haven’t come close to the football talent level we had in the end days of the Big East.

Want to argue that point? Go look at the last seven NFL drafts

"Go look at the last seven NFL drafts"

FALLACY IN THAT STATEMENT IS THAT WHAT MAKES FOR AN OUTSTANDING COLLEGE TEAM DOES NOT ALWAYS FIT WITH AN OUTSTANDING PRO TEAM. DIFFERENT TALENTS OFTEN REQUIRED. WE ALL KNOW OF COLLEGE SUPERSTARS WHO WERE BUSTS IN THE NFL, AND NOT JUST FROM WVU EITHER.
 

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"People need to come to terms that WVU does not have the resources to be a national power. "

Since the only national title came in 1922 under Doc Spears it's difficult to dispute that statement. Nehlen came close but lost to Notre Dame. Rich lost to Pitt and South Florida and prevented a national playoffs appearance. Since Doc Spears had the ONLY undefeated team in WVU history it's ridiculous for fans to think that we are Alabama. But I enjoy watching my alma mater. I'd be thrilled with a Big 12 championship as the icing on the cake. Realism and fans rarely meet.
Lof of bull **** mixed in with some fake **** in your thread. WVU HAS NEVER BEEN NAMED NATIONAL CHAMPS.

Don Nehlen, Rod Fraud and Holgs would all kick the **** out of any Doc Spears teams.

Now run along while the adults talk.
 

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"People need to come to terms that WVU does not have the resources to be a national power. "

Since the only national title came in 1922 under Doc Spears it's difficult to dispute that statement. Nehlen came close but lost to Notre Dame. Rich lost to Pitt and South Florida and prevented a national playoffs appearance. Since Doc Spears had the ONLY undefeated team in WVU history it's ridiculous for fans to think that we are Alabama. But I enjoy watching my alma mater. I'd be thrilled with a Big 12 championship as the icing on the cake. Realism and fans rarely meet.

"Go look at the last seven NFL drafts"

FALLACY IN THAT STATEMENT IS THAT WHAT MAKES FOR AN OUTSTANDING COLLEGE TEAM DOES NOT ALWAYS FIT WITH AN OUTSTANDING PRO TEAM. DIFFERENT TALENTS OFTEN REQUIRED. WE ALL KNOW OF COLLEGE SUPERSTARS WHO WERE BUSTS IN THE NFL, AND NOT JUST FROM WVU EITHER.
Squirrel chasing the same acorn.
 

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Holgs wasnt at the end...especially at the most important position on the field....We are still trying to fix his ****** last two years of recruiting.
Honestly, none of us can really know how DH would have fared finishing his recruiting. His model imho was more like what everyone is going to these days with portals. He always seemed to be last minute shopping for several positions. When he hit, sometimes it was big. Like Will Grier or Charles Simms. When he missed like for our OL, we ended up throwing 100 passes a game cause the line couldn’t open a hole. But DH was taking 8-10 transfers and JUCOs per class when he left so he may have been able to fill his holes on the roster. NB has recognized the need to mine the portal too, just doing so at fewer positions while building a stronger HS foundation. I never liked the last minute shopping but these days it has become a fact of life in recruiting.
 

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DH built his team on transfers and Jucos. That's why 2019 happened. There was some talent left there but no experience at all. Portal should be used to improve or fill a spot. Not to build a team.

KSU did the same. How are they doing now? Not well.
 

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"People need to come to terms that WVU does not have the resources to be a national power. "

Since the only national title came in 1922 under Doc Spears it's difficult to dispute that statement. Nehlen came close but lost to Notre Dame. Rich lost to Pitt and South Florida and prevented a national playoffs appearance. Since Doc Spears had the ONLY undefeated team in WVU history it's ridiculous for fans to think that we are Alabama. But I enjoy watching my alma mater. I'd be thrilled with a Big 12 championship as the icing on the cake. Realism and fans rarely meet.
National title in 1922? Did I miss something?
 

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National title in 1922? Did I miss something?
Apparently, so. Rumor has it that CFE a/k/a "Talmadge" has been posting about WVU's 1922 football "national title" for weeks, if not months, on at least three different WVU message board sites. In a propaganda campaign that would make even Joseph Goebbels blush, CFE hopes that if enough people read his rubbish, then it will become an accepted "fact" believed by the masses.
 

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Take a pic of that National Championship banner or stop lying.
"The 1922 college football season had a number of unbeaten and untied teams, and no clear-cut champion, with the Official NCAA Division I Football Records Book listing California, Cornell, Iowa, Princeton, and Vanderbilt as national champions. California, Cornell, and Princeton were all picked by multiple selectors." LINK
 

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"The 1922 college football season had a number of unbeaten and untied teams, and no clear-cut champion, with the Official NCAA Division I Football Records Book listing California, Cornell, Iowa, Princeton, and Vanderbilt as national champions. California, Cornell, and Princeton were all picked by multiple selectors." LINK
That's a fact, Jack!