This needs its own thread: How are Regionals seeded?

[QuaoarsKing]

I'll start by saying obviously this is all approximate and the committee also considers geography and not matching up conference teams in the same regional.<div>
</div><div>However, theoretically, it should look something like this, which would be consistent practically any seeded tournament in the NCAA or anything else:</div><div>
</div><div><div>1<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-spacere"> </span>32<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-spacere"> </span>33<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-spacere"> </span>64</div><div>2<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-spacere"> </span>31<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-spacere"> </span>34<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-spacere"> </span>63</div><div>3<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-spacere"> </span>30<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-spacere"> </span>35<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-spacere"> </span>62</div><div>4<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-spacere"> </span>29<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-spacere"> </span>36<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-spacere"> </span>61</div><div>5<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-spacere"> </span>28<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-spacere"> </span>37<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-spacere"> </span>60</div><div>6<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-spacere"> </span>27<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-spacere"> </span>38<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-spacere"> </span>59</div><div>7<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-spacere"> </span>26<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-spacere"> </span>39<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-spacere"> </span>58</div><div>8<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-spacere"> </span>25<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-spacere"> </span>40<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-spacere"> </span>57</div><div>9<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-spacere"> </span>24<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-spacere"> </span>41<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-spacere"> </span>56</div><div>10<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-spacere"> </span>23<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-spacere"> </span>42<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-spacere"> </span>55</div><div>11<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-spacere"> </span>22<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-spacere"> </span>43<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-spacere"> </span>54</div><div>12<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-spacere"> </span>21<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-spacere"> </span>44<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-spacere"> </span>53</div><div>13<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-spacere"> </span>20<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-spacere"> </span>45<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-spacere"> </span>52</div><div>14<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-spacere"> </span>19<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-spacere"> </span>46<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-spacere"> </span>51</div><div>15<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-spacere"> </span>18<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-spacere"> </span>47<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-spacere"> </span>50</div><div>16<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-spacere"> </span>17<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-spacere"> </span>48<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-spacere"> </span>49</div></div><div>
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</div><div>However, Coach34 is claiming it actually looks like this:</div><div><div>1<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-spacere"> </span>32<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-spacere"> </span>48<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-spacere"> </span>64</div><div>2<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-spacere"> </span>31<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-spacere"> </span>47<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-spacere"> </span>63</div><div>3<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-spacere"> </span>30<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-spacere"> </span>46<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-spacere"> </span>62</div><div>4<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-spacere"> </span>29<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-spacere"> </span>45<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-spacere"> </span>61</div><div>5<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-spacere"> </span>28<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-spacere"> </span>44<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-spacere"> </span>60</div><div>6<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-spacere"> </span>27<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-spacere"> </span>43<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-spacere"> </span>59</div><div>7<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-spacere"> </span>26<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-spacere"> </span>42<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-spacere"> </span>58</div><div>8<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-spacere"> </span>25<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-spacere"> </span>41<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-spacere"> </span>57</div><div>9<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-spacere"> </span>24<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-spacere"> </span>40<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-spacere"> </span>56</div><div>10<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-spacere"> </span>23<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-spacere"> </span>39<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-spacere"> </span>55</div><div>11<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-spacere"> </span>22<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-spacere"> </span>38<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-spacere"> </span>54</div><div>12<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-spacere"> </span>21<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-spacere"> </span>37<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-spacere"> </span>53</div><div>13<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-spacere"> </span>20<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-spacere"> </span>36<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-spacere"> </span>52</div><div>14<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-spacere"> </span>19<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-spacere"> </span>35<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-spacere"> </span>51</div><div>15<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-spacere"> </span>18<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-spacere"> </span>34<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-spacere"> </span>50</div><div>16<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-spacere"> </span>17<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-spacere"> </span>33<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-spacere"> </span>49</div></div><div>
</div><div>Which is it?</div><div>
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</div><div><font size="1">(Hint: It's approximate, but it's the top one.)</font></div>

 

[615dawg]

but its not. After seeds 1-8, there are no "seeds"

9-16 "seeds" are geographically/strategically placed with the 1-8. You could have the 9th team matched up with the 1st team, and you could have the 16th team matched up with the 8th team in the Super Regional.

After that, its a crapshoot. Geography plays a big part in it. Prairie View is going to be the worst team in the tournament, but I'd bet that they do not end up in Tallahassee. In fact, Belmont is predicted to end up there as the 4 seed, and they are the highest rated "4 seed," and if Memphis wins the CUSA tournament, could be higher rated than the 3 seed.

So, in a weird way, you are both wrong. I'll post an analysis as the brackets are announced Monday. You will be surprised. In theory, the "16 seed" should have the toughest regional, but I bet the toughest regional goes somewhere between the 3 and 7 seed.

 

[patdog]

But if it were seeded 1 through 64, it would be your way.

From the 2011 NCAA baseball tournament handbook:
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<font size="2" face="TimesNewRomanPSMT"><font size="2" face="TimesNewRomanPSMT"><p align="left">At-large teams will be assigned to the various regionals by the committee. The</p></font></font><font size="2" face="TimesNewRomanPSMT"><font size="2" face="TimesNewRomanPSMT"><p align="left">committee will seed the top eight national seeds. The 16 No. 1 teams, including the</p></font></font><font size="2" face="TimesNewRomanPSMT"><font size="2" face="TimesNewRomanPSMT"><p align="left">top eight national seeds, will not be assigned to the same regional. Whenever possible,</p><p align="left">other teams will be assigned to regionals using the closest possible geographical</p><p align="left">consideration. However, teams may be moved outside their regions, if necessary, to</p><p align="left">balance the bracket numerically, or if the proximity to an opponent outside the region</p>

would be comparable and a better competitive match-up would occur.</p></font></font>

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[Coach34]

Geography plays the biggest part

 

[NewTweederEndzoneDance]

though I'm sure in theory they "try" to use the snake format, but move teams around in it to account for region and other factors.

That whole debate was really just a vessel to point out how ridiculous Coach34's ***** logic was in saying that somehow playing at Purdue is better than hosting a regional.

 

[Coach34]

that getting matched up with a lower national seed is better than being matched up with the number 1 team in the nation.

But Strat does have a good point about the other benefits of hosting besides just on-field competition

 

[615dawg]

and putting on my common sense glasses:

If Omaha is the goal, being seeded at Purdue with Valpo and Indiana State (which are locks for that regional, geography wise, it seems) across from Oregon (who will draw an SEC/ACC #2 capable of winning it) is a significantly better chance at getting to Omaha than hosting a regional in Starkville where we will have an ACC #2 and a pretty decent Deep South mid major as a #3, and be matched up with a team like LSU, Florida or Florida State in a Super Regional.

 

[Coach34]

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[patdog]

I doubt the NCAA will set up such an easy road to Omaha for anyone though.