As bad as Templeton was, he was a huge improvement over the two Charlie's (Carr and Scott) from the mid 80s. One of them made the brilliant decision to close the ticket office on gamedays to prepare our fanbase for the time when we would become a major football power. He did this even though we never sold out our stadium back then. So if anyone wanted to drive to Starvkille on gameday, buy a ticket and go to the game, they got to see a bunch of empty seats and no ticket office to buy a ticket from.
This was a shocking stat - this is the first time since 1970 that Ole Miss is...
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I wasnt in the room when all of this took place, but it's been my understanding for almost 30 years that this is how it went down. One of the bowls wanted us to commit when we were 6-1, and Carr wouldn't do it. After the end of the season massacres, we had no suitors, and of course bowls were much more scarce in those days too. Carr lasted I think until the next summer perhaps before he got run out of town.
So, HottyToddy.com is trolling y'all?
http://hottytoddy.com/2014/09/28/sec-west-battle/
First sentence of the article: "Ole Miss sealed its first 4-0 start since 1970 with a 24-3 victory over the Memphis Tigers."
Then there's ESPN, SBnation, AL.com plus others pointing this out.
You are a joke.
http://hottytoddy.com/2014/09/28/sec-west-battle/
First sentence of the article: "Ole Miss sealed its first 4-0 start since 1970 with a 24-3 victory over the Memphis Tigers."
Then there's ESPN, SBnation, AL.com plus others pointing this out.
You are a joke.
According to Xeno's post it was 8 losses to Auburn in the nineties. I'm not doing my own work here
Yeah but you originally stated that the FIRST or SECOND game of the year for 80% of the time since 1970, which is the beginning year dawgstudent alluded to, you played Alabama or Auburn. Several of those losses were inside the first 4 games of the season, not the first or second game. I just went off of your original post that specifically said those two teams were either the first or second game of the year for 4/5's of the time since 1970. Winning or losing was irrelevant when you didn't even play them but 25% of the time. Some of those were actually wins as well. And if you look at the first four games of the season you are only playing those two teams less than 50% of the time. That includes your wins over them as well.
And they've only played Alabama 61 times. We've played Auburn and Bama 87 and 98 times, respectively... So that's a combined 99 games against the Alabama schools for UM, and a combined 185 games against them for us. The funny thing is that their winning % is no better against those teams than ours is- so yeah, no 17'n wonder their overall historical record looks better than ours.
The UM administration did a hell of a job scheduling during the Vaught era.
What was it... 3? 4? years in a row Vandy thumped ya'll?
"Ole Miss is Vandy's *****" just has a nice ring to it.
"Ole Miss is Vandy's *****" just has a nice ring to it.
1999 Oklahoma State wasn't good.
They went 5-6 in both 98 & 99. 3-8 in 2000 and 4-7 in 2001. They only had one winning season from 1989 to 2001.
The hat took over in 2001 and turned it around by 2002.
Carry on.
Coming off back to back Cotton Bowls y'all couldn't pull off a 4-0 start against Jacksonville St-L, Tulane-W, 2-10 Vandy-L, and the power house 8-5 Fresno St, who you actually beat. Or the year before when it was 7-5 So Carolina tripping you up when you were ranked #4. I bet that co-west title year had to be a power house that stopped a possible 4-0 start...nope it was Memphis who was 9-4 in Cusa but still that was a glory year. 1999 good year for yall but dang that pesky Vandy (5-6). 1998 it was a 3-8 Auburn team that kept you from 4-0. So don't act like it's been some high ranked early opponent spoiling it for you every year. Just like it wasn't always Bama or Auburn tripping ya up early in the season.
Sure thing there, Turbo, but I don't think I made a single excuse for our poor starts or mentioned any of the above teams.
I'm simply pointing out that Ok St wasn't a good team back then.
But hey, you got me good. Keep up the good work putting bearsharks in their place.
What did Oklahoma States record really matter then? As craptastic as our football has been at times over the years, we still managed it 3 times and scheduling is only a small percentage of it since we both have laid eggs in years when we actually have winning seasons but lose against lesser opponents. You chimed in to make sure we know it was only because of weak Ok State that we did it in 1999.
Yes. You chimed in because he mentioned we beat Ok State in our 1999 4-0 run. You wanted to make sure we all know that it was no big deal because they were 5-6 on their way to being a very poor team. My point was we at least did it against weak competition a few times. It is also fair to mention that Ok State the year before beat us when we were ranked and finished 5-6 that year as well. The year prior they were 8-4.
Edit. Meant to also mention that 5 of Ok State's loses were to top 25 teams (final rankings) and the other was their rival game to 7-5 Oklahoma on the road. They were not a good team but they were not a bad team either. Just average.
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and with the exception of a few strong Terry Bowden teams...
there were several mediocre to bad Auburn teams in the 90's.
State did not have as much trouble with the Tigers, beating Auburn in 91, 92, 97, 98, 99
there were several mediocre to bad Auburn teams in the 90's.
State did not have as much trouble with the Tigers, beating Auburn in 91, 92, 97, 98, 99
Add to the fact that our 4-0 in 2014 - on paper - is more impressive. But the point of my original post was that I was just shocked they haven't had a 4-0 start since 1970. I wasn't trying to troll. Hell, I thought we maybe had more than 1999 and 2012.