Thoughts on ESL vs PN..... football only please

Hinterland

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Over in mid-second quarter.

Don't know about mid-second quarter, but this is definitely one of the mismatches this weekend along with:

3A - Elmhurst IC over Carlinville
4A - Rochester over Johnsburg
6A - Prairie Ridge over SHG

Some posters will obviously add to this list but if they subtract from it, it will go to show that they are not very astute when it comes to evaluating high school football.
 

Cross Bones

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Could be better than expected. Let us not forget PFN put a brutal beating on Bradley (who was a favorite in the top "competitive class") and ESL needed some last minute heroics to pull one out over GBN. I think this one is going to be closer than people are giving credit for.
 

Corey90

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Don't know about mid-second quarter, but this is definitely one of the mismatches this weekend along with:

3A - Elmhurst IC over Carlinville
4A - Rochester over Johnsburg
6A - Prairie Ridge over SHG

Some posters will obviously add to this list but if they subtract from it, it will go to show that they are not very astute when it comes to evaluating high school football.


I hope PN wins. I don't have a dog in the fight but after reading all the PN should concede the game to Fenwick crap. What! I am rooting for PN. They have done nothing wrong. Concede the game. Give me a break.
 
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beathead

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Could be better than expected. Let us not forget PFN put a brutal beating on Bradley (who was a favorite in the top "competitive class") and ESL needed some last minute heroics to pull one out over GBN. I think this one is going to be closer than people are giving credit for.
amen ehe teams picked to lose are fully capable of winning
 

flyerforlife

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PFN coach is familiar with ESL having coach at Collinsville. in early 2000's. Although Collinsville only made playoffs 1 year under Kane. Question is do PNF have better football players. Or will ESL play as if they are playing Collinsville. No prediction here just hope the Flyers pUT one good game to gather and play some good football.
 

ODERTY1

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PFN coach is familiar with ESL having coach at Collinsville. in early 2000's. Although Collinsville only made playoffs 1 year under Kane. Question is do PNF have better football players. Or will ESL play as if they are playing Collinsville. No prediction here just hope the Flyers pUT one good game to gather and play some good football.
He was going before Sunk was hired...right?
 

Cross Bones

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PFN has some athletes in the building. I saw an article recently that said PFN put out the most D1 athletes in the state (all sports) which took me by surprise.
 

CGsupporter

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Don't know about mid-second quarter, but this is definitely one of the mismatches this weekend along with:

3A - Elmhurst IC over Carlinville
4A - Rochester over Johnsburg
6A - Prairie Ridge over SHG

Some posters will obviously add to this list but if they subtract from it, it will go to show that they are not very astute when it comes to evaluating high school football.

I still think SHG is going to give PR a game Saturday.
 

Gaelman

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Should be a good one I'm excited


I too think it will be a good game.
All the other crap aside Fenwick's only loss was to what looks to be a great Loyola team.
If PN could hang with the Friars they must be pretty strong.
Plus they now will be highly motivated.
I'm pulling for ESL for a variety of reasons but I think it will be a lot closer than people think.
 

Wassup13_rivals219252

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Sorry can't get excited about this game anymore.

No offense to East St Louis but with all the controversy this to me now seems like a NIT College basketball tournament.

Wassup
 

uglytruth99

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Don't know about mid-second quarter, but this is definitely one of the mismatches this weekend along with:

3A - Elmhurst IC over Carlinville
4A - Rochester over Johnsburg
6A - Prairie Ridge over SHG

Some posters will obviously add to this list but if they subtract from it, it will go to show that they are not very astute when it comes to evaluating high school football.

PR and SHG is a mismatch?? I agree with 3A and 4A, but I think 6A should be a heck of a game. If the 6A game is a great match-up, does that mean you are not very astute when it comes to evaluating high school football?
 

Wassup13_rivals219252

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PR and SHG is a mismatch?? I agree with 3A and 4A, but I think 6A should be a heck of a game. If the 6A game is a great match-up, does that mean you are not very astute when it comes to evaluating high school football?

I really follow SHG every year and a great fan of theirs but this game is a mismatch this year, PR will roll.

Wassup
 

Doctor_D

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I think ICCP is the biggest mismatch by far.

The others maybe also, but not to the degree of 3A.

I also think SHG will not be embarrassed.
 
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BallHog85

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I too think it will be a good game.
All the other crap aside Fenwick's only loss was to what looks to be a great Loyola team.
If PN could hang with the Friars they must be pretty strong.
Plus they now will be highly motivated.
I'm pulling for ESL for a variety of reasons but I think it will be a lot closer than people think.
Agree with everything here. I'm pulling for ESL to win big just to put this entire thing to rest once and for all. The PFN kids got heart, and none of it is their fault, but I just want to preemptively stop the what-ifs.
 

BretEpic

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IC is by far the biggest favorite, but no team gets my support this week like East Lou. Go Flyers.
 

Tez711

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Should be a good one this Saturday. I've been watching this whole Controversy between PFN/Fewick and keeping quiet. Usually ESL is always ahead of any drama and always the team that has the most things working against them. This year thus far, we have kept our name out the news and on our way to a historic season. Every week we are gaining more fans and receiving more support. This all proves even more that this is the flyers year. The time is now. We are bringing the hardware back to the city of champions.
 
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Oldcoach32

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Thoughts on actual game. If weather is as predicted, Plainfields passing game, with its run game to keep defense honest should present a better challenge to a run only offense. However Plainfield passing game must be firing on all cylinders. Their defense is strong and fast enough as long as they can funnel the flyers speed into the flow defense of their backers, if they cannot hold the edge could be tough. One last thought. All the weird stuff that has happened, and the games prior to the semifinal game, kinda get a feel Plainfield might have some karma going for it.
 

Oldcoach32

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Thoughts on 8a . While talking about karma, how about Maine south? They were 1 yard from first round elimination, and a dropped a quarterback / center exchange by west Aurora and Maine south. Is still playing.....way to survive and thrive.....
 

crusader_of_90

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I really enjoy watching this defense play. The coach last week summarized well: they play one on one receivers and bring everyone else. You can't do much with that but duck.

I have seen ESL score in bunches - maybe all cylinders hit at once on the big stage. I think it could happen.
 
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BallHog85

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I really enjoy watching this defense play. The coach last week summarized well: they play one on one receivers and bring everyone else. You can't do much with that but duck.

I have seen ESL score in bunches - maybe all cylinders hit at once on the big stage. I think it could happen.
Love love love defense like that. It really challenges the players to step up.

I think ESL will be fine if they get a couple quick scores early. Otherwise PFN is going to keep clawing and fighting and it will be interesting. Don't think PFN has the offense compared to ESL defense to fight back if they get down tho. First quarter will be very important.
 
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pjjp

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After watching the Fenwick/PN game last night, I don't see PN scoring much against ESL's defense. PN's defense, which is very good, is going to have to play lights out to keep them in the game. They will also need ESL to make some mistakes (possibly in the kicking game or turnovers) to keep it close. I think Fenwick's overall size and height at the receiver position would have been a tougher matchup for ESL. PN is a small, quick team. ESL seems like a bad matchup for the Tigers.
 
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ODERTY1

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Kane is a good coach. the team is on a roll. they are fast and creative on offense. aggressive on defense.
 

emdee91

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Like I posted in another thread.

My boys team played Fenwick and ESL.

At Fenwick, bad play calling saw us lose by 7.

Against ESL, the boys could barely breathe and we lost by 32 or something.

Richie ran all over Fenwick, with over a hundred yards. Not sure of the exact amount.

Against ESL, Richie had 7 or 17 yards. Either way, ridiculous.

Fenwick lost to PFN in overtime, meaning these teams are pretty dang equal.

I don't see this even being a game. But again, this is just my opinion. I suppose I could be way off.
 

ODERTY1

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Like I posted in another thread.

My boys team played Fenwick and ESL.

At Fenwick, bad play calling saw us lose by 7.

Against ESL, the boys could barely breathe and we lost by 32 or something.

Richie ran all over Fenwick, with over a hundred yards. Not sure of the exact amount.

Against ESL, Richie had 7 or 17 yards. Either way, ridiculous.

Fenwick lost to PFN in overtime, meaning these teams are pretty dang equal.

I don't see this even being a game. But again, this is just my opinion. I suppose I could be way off.
I humbly and happily accept your prediction lol we will see