Yeah. My guess is the authors tried to reflect success prior to a coach's current job. DeBoer at Bama is an example. 4 losses in his Bama debut is C-level work, but he was a rising star in the 5 years prior.
Thoughts on James Franklin listed as 9th best coach in CFB?
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Franklin-friendly, for sure. Anyone on the page and many other could win equally or better with PSU’s schedule and resources.
Need a few signature wins to actually be this lofty.
Yeah I’m sure guys like Kotelnicki and Knowles would sign up to work for so many of the ‘anyone’s on the page’.
It’s more than just beating OSU and Michigan. How many coaches would’ve built PSU into what it is now in the last 10 years? Not one bit of that was an accident. The coaches and players didn’t come here in spite of Franklin - many came here BECAUSE of him. Give the guy some credit.
Guys, when I saw us line up for the 2 point conversion, I thought that was the dumbest move he could have made at that time. After the game was over, I did some research on sites that are much more educated in this situation than most of us and it changed my mind.
I was (and still am) convinced the 2 point attempt was absolutely the right call. Yes, it has to do with analytics and once it was explained to me, I understood and agreed 100%.
Having a couple of quality wide receivers should do it.
Right call, wrong play. Of course had it worked it would have been the best play.
Please list the 10 that are better holding them to same criteria Franklin gets held to…beating teams with more talent and never losing to teams with less talent…I’ll wait.
He’s good. But he has been here a long, long time. Last signature win was 2016. Actually only signature win.
It’s time to give someone else a chance to see if we can break through.
If it fails, we can settle in at 4/5th in Big 10 - would we notice the difference?
Kotelinicki is looking for a HFC job. Great platform in front of 110,000 fans. Maybe this year he can dial up a single catch from a WR in an important game.
Knowles? I guess his ego and Eddie Munster’s could not co-exist? And oh, he is now the highest paid assistant in NCAA. Will see what he can do without OSU’s talent. I don’t think he struck fear into anyone coaching D at OK State. Time will tell. Major holes to fill.
Hopefully we can get a tough win this year. Hope springs eternal.
The announcer even mocked it. “Modern day analytics”.
This from espn. “But the turning point proved to be a failed 2-point conversion attempt early in the fourth quarter — leaving Penn State down 38-30.”
would have been down a touchdown. So why are you going for the win when you are in track meet. The outcome was far from over. Oregon scored a td and then psu had the last drive was down 8. Made no sense with so much time left.
not like it mattered though. The outcome of losing was far better than winning. Lined up 2 cup cakes instead of osu.
But I would certainly question and do Cignetti, Freeman and the overrated hasn’t beaten a top 5 team Sark.
I liked it better when you were making an a$$ out of yourself on the BOTS and not infecting the boards.
The same kind that acted like an A$$ on the BOTS, got booted off and came here to cry and whine about it.
I’ve never understood why Tom hasn’t banned this troll’s a$$. Someone who uses another person’s real name should be cut off immediately. This is all kinds of horse sh|t.
It adds fun and intrigue. But I will add boss doesn’t like sharing avatars
Well, not that I walk around with a list nor do I subscribe to the 'criteria' you mention Mrs. Franklin but here goes:
Smart, Swinney, Day are clearly first tier in the profession.
Bielema, Sitake, Sarkisian win and get the most out of their rosters, that's why they are senior coaches.
Lanning, Kiffin and Kelly just win so as I guessed originally 9-11 for Franklin.
Why is he 9th or 10th? Because he or his staff do bonehead things to turn games. Not just in the big games either. Sometimes it doesn't bite him when he has better talent. He's not a high-quality in-game coach so he's 10th and yes I would be concerned playing the other 9 coaches most years.
I like Coach Franklin and he's a worker, a plugger. He reminds me of Roy Williams who took care of every detail, was widely respected and yet didn't win his first national championship until his 17th year as a head coach. Roy did bonehead things too. He over thought situations and didn't have the luck you need when you are close.
Hopefully Franklin and staff make it happen, wins it this year in his 15th season as head coach.
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He should ban me as well… my real name is Buck Naked!
Smart and Day both lose to teams with less talent because everyone has less talent, so they’re out. Swinney has lost at least three games for four straight seasons, so he’s out. Bielema was 5-7 two years ago as was Sitake, so they’re out…..I can go on and on. None of them would be considered successful if judged as Franklin is on this board. And all coaches do “bonehead” things during games when judged after the fact. Bottom line, none of them won at a school like Vandy and none of them took over a program destroyed by sanctions with a ruined reputation and rebuilt it like Franklin has.
Bret Bielema has 125 wins in 15 seasons as a head coach. I know of a coach who has won 125 games in just 14 seasons as a head coach. Can you name him?
He understands football and the job Franklin has done so far. Pretty simple actually.
If big wins only count if they beat a team with more talent, then neither Smart or Day have any big wins. Anyone can downplay any win by any coach by simply saying the team they beat wasn’t any good. If Franklin would have beat OSU this year, OSU would have ended up with three losses and not in the playoffs, and posters on here would be saying he beat OSU in a down year and it wasn’t a big win….see how that works?
we deserve worse