Thoughts on the Junior Seau findings? More goodell pussification coming? ***

Maroon Eagle

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Considering that blows to the head are a point of emphasis by the refs...

...this season, it'll likely continue to be next season. I'm not surprised about the Seau findings either.
 

QuaoarsKing

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Anyone who is concerned about how common life-altering head injuries are is obviously just a *******
 
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OK...

If Roger Goodell were really concerned about player safety, the NFL would do away with Thursday night games, and not even consider going to an 18 game schedule (which seems inevitable). The NFL wants to appear that they are making player safety the #1 concern, but in the end it's all about the money.
 

missouridawg

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If Roger Goodell were really concerned about player safety, the NFL would do away with Thursday night games, and not even consider going to an 18 game schedule (which seems inevitable). The NFL wants to appear that they are making player safety the #1 concern, but in the end it's all about the money.

Why does everyone try to polarize player safety and revenue? You can have both.
 

Seinfeld

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Agree about the money part, but let's not pretend that the multi-billion dollar players lawsuit against the league has nothing to do with this. It's not all about revenue. I really hope that some of the former players associated with the lawsuit are truly trying to improve the game and protect others, but I have a nasty suspicion that a lot of it is more about players blowing their paychecks, not being able to afford their lifestyles anymore, and seeing an easy paycheck through some sort of settlement.
 
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Not necessarily but anyone not already aware of such injuries when they sign up don't have to worry about protecting much in the first place. They have a choice of occupation.
 

tenureplan

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Trying not to be too insensitive, but...

He blew his brains out with a freaking shotgun. What was left to be studied? The article said they looked at 3 unidentified brains, one of them being Seau's. How hard would it be to figure out which was his?

Something doesn't add up.
 

dgsmith15

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He blew his brains out with a freaking shotgun. What was left to be studied? The article said they looked at 3 unidentified brains, one of them being Seau's. How hard would it be to figure out which was his?

Something doesn't add up.

I thought he shot himself in the chest. No?
 

Tin Cup Cowboy

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I really hope that some of the former players associated with the lawsuit are truly trying to improve the game and protect others
Well, i've seen where there is a punter signed onto the lawsuit.
 

dudehead

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I think there ought to be some sort of equipment solution

that can minimize the danger of head trauma. I sure hope so.

My son had to give up ball this year when he suffered his 4th concussion mid season. I sure hope he did in time for the sake of his long term health. Until he quit, I did not realize the subconscious tension or fear (knot in the gut) that I had been living with all these years while he played. After he quit, there was a definite sense of relief. I've missed watching him play, but I'm damn glad he's done.

It will be interesting to see the path the game takes. I suppose as long as there is so much demand (and dollars chasing that demand), there will be players willing to encounter the risks of permanent health damage.
 
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I don't agree with you when it comes to the NFL. The game itself is inherently violent and dangerous. If they want to make it completely safe (like they claim) they might as well change what game they are playing and make it 2 hand touch. So with that being said, the real question is when does Player safety start to outweigh revenue ? I understand the league has to make money but where do they draw a line ? Would it be OK to have a 28 game season? Of course not. The owners and league are trying to squeeze every drop of cash they can out of the league, and they can justify playing more games if they continue this ridiculous crusade they are on against helmet to helmet hits.

Just my 2 cents
 

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I wonder if the safety equipment makes things less safe in that it allows players to be far riskier. If you don't have a helmet, you'll play in such a way that you guard your head more. Then again, they've found Rugby has just as high of a concussion rate. I know they have focused on penalizing leading with the head on tackles, but there can be head trauma even if you're far away from the play. There no way they can look at 22 heads at the same time.

Really, the NFL should be collecting a lot more data right now. Put accelerometers in every helmet and try to determine what causes concussions. And determine if concussions cause long term brain injury or if you can get serious brain damage without having a single concussion in your career.
 

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I wonder if the safety equipment makes things less safe in that it allows players to be far riskier. If you don't have a helmet, you'll play in such a way that you guard your head more. Then again, they've found Rugby has just as high of a concussion rate. I know they have focused on penalizing leading with the head on tackles, but there can be head trauma even if you're far away from the play. There no way they can look at 22 heads at the same time.

Really, the NFL should be collecting a lot more data right now. Put accelerometers in every helmet and try to determine what causes concussions. And determine if concussions cause long term brain injury or if you can get serious brain damage without having a single concussion in your career.

No knowledge on the subject but is there an epidemic in England/Australia of rugby or Australian rules football players killing themselves or having long term effects?
 

dudehead

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I agree on some level: the head gear has enabled a style of play that you would think couldn't be done with an open faced helmet or some "lesser" protection.

As for the head shot penalty issue, none of my son's 4 concussions occurred on plays that would be a penalty under the defenseless player/headshot penalty. On two of his hits he was the aggressor and initiated the collisions and on the other two, they were just hard collisions that are a part of the game.

I think the league is doing the best they can unless there was some helmet development that could improve safety. At one point, Sonny Rush, a bone doc here in Meridian, had developed what seemed to be a pretty interesting helmet with some sort of airbags in it. I don't know what ever came of that.

In the end, it's just part of the game and a person just has to decide if they like playing it bad enough to assume the risk of doing so. It's really no different than other decisions about risk we all make pretty regularly.
 

patdog

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Joe Paterno made a very good point a few years ago on that same issue. He said that if you want to eliminate head-to-head hits, just make facemasks illegal. Problem solved.