Throwing in windy conditions.

TheBeav815

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Why don't you lot of football geniuses name for me a championship football team recently that couldn't run the ball. I'll wait.
 

timnsun

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We had a couple grand opportunities with excellent field position. Just didn't convert.
We sure did...

It seems like Some of the decisions Riley makes will either make him look like a genius or a goat. Too many times they have backfired.
 

leodisflowers

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We sure did...

It seems like Some of the decisions Riley makes will either make him look like a genius or a goat. Too many times they have backfired.

100%. I actually had confidence going into those drives because of the two consecutive series that Danny had called before. We had a little bit of everything and Wisconsin was off balance. We then reverted back to our old ways. Oh well... C'est La Vie.
 
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GBR_Atlanta

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Please stop comparing anything about our (or any other college) team to elite professionals. Apples and oranges.

I get that. I just don't think weather is a good enough excuse to blame our passing problems. I think that once we get a better passer in there, we're going to complete more balls. Windy or not. I'm not dogging on TA with this statement, or saying that a run game isn't important (that would be foolish). I just think that things will change for the better when we have someone back there can deliver in the pocket more with more consistence.
 
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The elite NFL teams also have solid running games. Re-watch that Pats-Colts AFC Title game and remind me whether Blount had 200+ yards rushing.

Seattle with multiple Super Bowl appearances, and one of the best RBs in football.
Who said anything about not being able to run the ball? I thought this thread was bout how we have to run 100% of the time because Memorial stadium is the only place on the planet with 100mph wind every game.
 
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I get that. I just don't think weather is a good enough excuse to blame our passing problems. I think that once we get a better passer in there, we're going to complete more balls. Windy or not. I'm not dogging on TA with this statement, or saying that a run game isn't important (that would be foolish). I just think that things will change for the better when we have someone back there can deliver in the pocket more with more consistence.
I agree. I'm the one that said TA wasn't a consistent or accurate passer above, but you lose everything when you compare anything we have to the best of the best at the pro level. If you want to say the wind isn't a factor, you could have simply pointed out that in each of the last 2 games, both opposing QB's had significant higher completion percentages with the same wind (and arguably worse receivers).
 

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I agree. I'm the one that said TA wasn't a consistent or accurate passer above, but you lose everything when you compare anything we have to the best of the best at the pro level. If you want to say the wind isn't a factor, you could have simply pointed out that in each of the last 2 games, both opposing QB's had significant higher completion percentages with the same wind (and arguably worse receivers).

That's for sure. Especially on the worse receivers part. It's been almost criminal to have the talent at WR we've had over the last few years and not have a QB that can hit them.
 

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My desire to see the Huskers run the ball more has nothing to do with weather, or tradition, or TO's blueprint for success. I just don't think they have the personnel right now, especially at QB, to beat many (or perhaps any) good opponents with an offense that's this pass-heavy. While it's true that this staff inherited a crappy O-line and an unproven stable of RBs, I still believe they would have a better chance at salvaging some wins this season with a balanced offensive game plan, as opposed to what we've watched over the past few weeks. And if NU can't develop a great running game, at least try to be competent enough at running the ball that you can finish a drive once in a while or pick up a first down when you need to protect a lead.

That doesn't seem like an unreasonable expectation, though I'm sure some here will read it as, OMG OMG OMG OMG WHY DON'T WE JUST RUN THE BALL EVERY SINGLE DOWN JUST LIKE T.O. DID AND ESPECIALLY WITH JANO CUZ HE'S OUR BEST PLAYER AND WE SHOULD NEVER EVER THROW THE BALL AGAIN - EVER.
 

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My desire to see the Huskers run the ball more has nothing to do with weather, or tradition, or TO's blueprint for success. I just don't think they have the personnel right now, especially at QB, to beat many (or perhaps any) good opponents with an offense that's this pass-heavy. While it's true that this staff inherited a crappy O-line and an unproven stable of RBs, I still believe they would have a better chance at salvaging some wins this season with a balanced offensive game plan, as opposed to what we've watched over the past few weeks. And if NU can't develop a great running game, at least try to be competent enough at running the ball that you can finish a drive once in a while or pick up a first down when you need to protect a lead.

That doesn't seem like an unreasonable expectation, though I'm sure some here will read it as, OMG OMG OMG OMG WHY DON'T WE JUST RUN THE BALL EVERY SINGLE DOWN JUST LIKE T.O. DID AND ESPECIALLY WITH JANO CUZ HE'S OUR BEST PLAYER AND WE SHOULD NEVER EVER THROW THE BALL AGAIN - EVER.

So what are you trying to say? Nike or Adidas??
 

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Still waiting on the championship team that couldn't run. Nebraska right now CAN'T run when it needs to.

Championship football = run game that wears teams out and can take over late in games, and pass game that is good enough to punish teams for selling out against the run and keep them honest. Sometimes a truly balanced offense.

Look at Bama and Ohio State. Run-first teams that can also pass well. Yeldon, Lacy, Ingram all playing in the NFL. Richardson was an NFL bust but a college beast. Carlos Hyde starting in the NFL. Elliot will be in the NFL next year. Florida under Meyer, run-first team.
 

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I never said anything about NU being a pass first team. I like any football player/fan know the importance of a running game. I'm just not going to blame our passing woes on weather.

What do you want to change the offense to? Do you want to be more like Wiscy or Arkansas? Or back to the 90s power/option attack? Or would you like to see a pro-style North Dakota State offense like Craig Bohl ran? I lean toward the NDSU attack.

I prefer the power O\ Option attack. Still can run some pro sets.

But a mobile QB is a must.

I really like Baylors Qb.
 

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The year our current freshman class was born.
and that makes it untrue that they were a running team that could barely pass or.........

How about Florida with Tim Tebow? Bigtime precision passer was he?

Or was it insufficient that I already pointed out that Ohio State and Alabama, who have won 4 of the last 5 titles, are run-first teams? The fifth team, Florida State, had a couple of RBs you may have heard of lately...Devonta Freeman and Karlos Williams, both in the NFL. They averaged over 200 rushing yards per game as a team.

Should we continue this amazingly stupid argument some more, or did somebody want to shift it to suggesting that you don't need a good defense to win a title?
 

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and that makes it untrue that they were a running team that could barely pass or.........

How about Florida with Tim Tebow? Bigtime precision passer was he?

Or was it insufficient that I already pointed out that Ohio State and Alabama, who have won 4 of the last 5 titles, are run-first teams? The fifth team, Florida State, had a couple of RBs you may have heard of lately...Devonta Freeman and Karlos Williams, both in the NFL. They averaged over 200 rushing yards per game as a team.

Should we continue this amazingly stupid argument some more, or did somebody want to shift it to suggesting that you don't need a good defense to win a title?

I don't remember anyone arguing with you. The conversation was about throwing the football in bad weather and you got fired up about someone (I have no idea who) arguing that you need to be pass first to win a title. I never said that, I have no idea who did. Should've led with Florida, that's definitely a team that won it all with mediocre passing. Any they actually did it this century.
 

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I prefer the power O\ Option attack. Still can run some pro sets.

But a mobile QB is a must.

I really like Baylors Qb.

All great offenses. I like a mobile QB, I'm just not sure I want a run first guy. I'd love to see a power run/option attack, I'd also love the air raid haha. I'd just like to see NU have a consistent offensive system again, no matter what it is. I'm over the multiple stuff. If we're going option, I wish they'd go 100%, if we're going pro style, I wish they'd go 100%. I don't know. Deep Thoughts on this Tuesday morning.
 
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