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PawPride

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So you cant point to any one thing that you feel im misinformed about? Just making a blanket bland statement that we cant hold you down to what you really mean?
Sure, here’s one.
Your complete and total dismissal of the Tim pool/Russia connection is easily one. There is mountains of evidence that he was an unwitting (I’m giving the benefit of the doubt here) participant in spreading Russian propaganda and you refuse to acknowledge it. You are clearly incapable of looking at things objectively.
 

TigerRagRob

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Sure, here’s one.
Your complete and total dismissal of the Tim pool/Russia connection is easily one. There is mountains of evidence that he was an unwitting (I’m giving the benefit of the doubt here) participant in spreading Russian propaganda and you refuse to acknowledge it. You are clearly incapable of looking at things objectively.
You claim mountains of evidence but show no none. In fact the Biden DOJ had so little evidence they quietly just dropped the investigation and cleared Tim Pool. To not see that for what it was you are either naive or dumb. The fact many of you believe this to be true without any evidence shows it was a successful smear against a media figure that didnt carry the administrations water. They did it to discredit that media figure right before an election so people wont trust what he's reporting and many of you simple minded people fell right for it. In fact many of you dont even know they dropped the investigation and never charged Tim Pool with anything...

The U.S. Department of Justice (DOJ) dropped its investigation against Tim Pool (and his companies, Timcast Media and Timcast IRL) on January 7, 2025.


Key Details​


  • Background: In April 2024, the DOJ issued subpoenas to Tim Pool, Dave Rubin, Benny Johnson, and Lauren Chen as part of an investigation into alleged Russian influence operations and covert payments from a Russia-linked media company (Tenet Media). The feds alleged that Tenet Media received ~$10 million from Russian state media (RT) to produce content that aligned with Kremlin interests, without the influencers knowing the true source.
  • Outcome: On January 7, 2025, the DOJ formally closed the investigation into Pool and his companies with no charges filed. The DOJ stated there was insufficient evidence to prove Pool or his team knowingly participated in or were aware of any foreign influence scheme.
  • Other Influencers: The investigation also ended without charges for Dave Rubin, Benny Johnson, and Lauren Chen. The DOJ did not pursue charges against any of the named influencers, focusing instead on the Russian operatives behind Tenet Media.

Sources​


  • DOJ Announcement: January 7, 2025 press release (via justice.gov).
  • Tim Pool's Statement: Posted on X on Jan 7, 2025 — "The DOJ has officially dropped all investigations against me and my companies. No charges. No wrongdoing."
  • Media Coverage: Confirmed by The New York Times, Reuters, Politico, and Fox News (all reporting the closure on Jan 7, 2025).
 

UrHuckleberry

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You claim mountains of evidence but show no none. In fact the Biden DOJ had so little evidence they quietly just dropped the investigation and cleared Tim Pool. To not see that for what it was you are either naive or dumb. The fact many of you believe this to be true without any evidence shows it was a successful smear against a media figure that didnt carry the administrations water. They did it to discredit that media figure right before an election so people wont trust what he's reporting and many of you simple minded people fell right for it. In fact many of you dont even know they dropped the investigation and never charged Tim Pool with anything...

The U.S. Department of Justice (DOJ) dropped its investigation against Tim Pool (and his companies, Timcast Media and Timcast IRL) on January 7, 2025.


Key Details​


  • Background: In April 2024, the DOJ issued subpoenas to Tim Pool, Dave Rubin, Benny Johnson, and Lauren Chen as part of an investigation into alleged Russian influence operations and covert payments from a Russia-linked media company (Tenet Media). The feds alleged that Tenet Media received ~$10 million from Russian state media (RT) to produce content that aligned with Kremlin interests, without the influencers knowing the true source.
  • Outcome: On January 7, 2025, the DOJ formally closed the investigation into Pool and his companies with no charges filed. The DOJ stated there was insufficient evidence to prove Pool or his team knowingly participated in or were aware of any foreign influence scheme.
  • Other Influencers: The investigation also ended without charges for Dave Rubin, Benny Johnson, and Lauren Chen. The DOJ did not pursue charges against any of the named influencers, focusing instead on the Russian operatives behind Tenet Media.

Sources​


  • DOJ Announcement: January 7, 2025 press release (via justice.gov).
  • Tim Pool's Statement: Posted on X on Jan 7, 2025 — "The DOJ has officially dropped all investigations against me and my companies. No charges. No wrongdoing."
  • Media Coverage: Confirmed by The New York Times, Reuters, Politico, and Fox News (all reporting the closure on Jan 7, 2025).
Your AI summary agrees with everything they've been saying. That it was dropped because there was insufficient evidence he knowingly participated in or were aware of the scheme. The scheme that happened, they just weren't aware of the source of the money.
 

TigerRagRob

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Your AI summary agrees with everything they've been saying. That it was dropped because there was insufficient evidence he knowingly participated in or were aware of the scheme. The scheme that happened, they just weren't aware of the source of the money.
No you tards imply he was a traitor and was willing participant in pushing Russian propaganda. Again none of that is true. Did Some random Russians try to buy into companies sure. Was it the Russian Gov or private citizens? You tards try to paint he was working for Putin and knowingly did it. All lies. See this is what happens when to try to stretch the truth to push a narrative. You get exposed being a total liar. Again DOJ said he didnt even know anything about Russians...
 

UrHuckleberry

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No you tards imply he was a traitor and was willing participant in pushing Russian propaganda. Again none of that is true. Did Some random Russians try to buy into companies sure. Was it the Russian Gov or private citizens? You tards try to paint he was working for Putin and knowingly did it. All lies. See this is what happens when to try to stretch the truth to push a narrative. You get exposed being a total liar. Again DOJ said he didnt even know anything about Russians...
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dpic73

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No you tards imply he was a traitor and was willing participant in pushing Russian propaganda. Again none of that is true. Did Some random Russians try to buy into companies sure. Was it the Russian Gov or private citizens? You tards try to paint he was working for Putin and knowingly did it. All lies. See this is what happens when to try to stretch the truth to push a narrative. You get exposed being a total liar. Again DOJ said he didnt even know anything about Russians...
Umm

He was funded by Russians. Russians he didn't even know about (allegedly),

Your AI summary agrees with everything they've been saying. That it was dropped because there was insufficient evidence he knowingly participated in or were aware of the scheme. The scheme that happened, they just weren't aware of the source of the money.

You tards try to paint he was working for Putin and knowingly did it. All lies. S

 

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You claim mountains of evidence but show no none. In fact the Biden DOJ had so little evidence they quietly just dropped the investigation and cleared Tim Pool. To not see that for what it was you are either naive or dumb. The fact many of you believe this to be true without any evidence shows it was a successful smear against a media figure that didnt carry the administrations water. They did it to discredit that media figure right before an election so people wont trust what he's reporting and many of you simple minded people fell right for it. In fact many of you dont even know they dropped the investigation and never charged Tim Pool with anything...

The U.S. Department of Justice (DOJ) dropped its investigation against Tim Pool (and his companies, Timcast Media and Timcast IRL) on January 7, 2025.


Key Details​


  • Background: In April 2024, the DOJ issued subpoenas to Tim Pool, Dave Rubin, Benny Johnson, and Lauren Chen as part of an investigation into alleged Russian influence operations and covert payments from a Russia-linked media company (Tenet Media). The feds alleged that Tenet Media received ~$10 million from Russian state media (RT) to produce content that aligned with Kremlin interests, without the influencers knowing the true source.
  • Outcome: On January 7, 2025, the DOJ formally closed the investigation into Pool and his companies with no charges filed. The DOJ stated there was insufficient evidence to prove Pool or his team knowingly participated in or were aware of any foreign influence scheme.
  • Other Influencers: The investigation also ended without charges for Dave Rubin, Benny Johnson, and Lauren Chen. The DOJ did not pursue charges against any of the named influencers, focusing instead on the Russian operatives behind Tenet Media.

Sources​


  • DOJ Announcement: January 7, 2025 press release (via justice.gov).
  • Tim Pool's Statement: Posted on X on Jan 7, 2025 — "The DOJ has officially dropped all investigations against me and my companies. No charges. No wrongdoing."
  • Media Coverage: Confirmed by The New York Times, Reuters, Politico, and Fox News (all reporting the closure on Jan 7, 2025).

I've said ... so often ... that Beanie Baby, along with other propagandists-for-profit (like Benny Johnson) were being funded by Russians, and were (allegedly) unaware it was happening ... that for you to turn around and claim folks are stating that they knew about the funding shows everyone that you're illiterate and/or completely incapable of processing basic information.

This is how you were duped by these propagandists.

You just can't function.

Again, it's actually MORE damning that Russians, attempting to sow discord in America and influence our politics, decided to find some people, and pay those people to put out the Russkies' messaging ... and they didn't even have to bribe folks like Beanie Baby to put forth this messaging ... Tim Pool and Co. were already actively doing it for them. So they just had to fund them, behind the scenes, to make sure the machine kept rolling. That's how effed up the far-right-extremist-propagandists-for-profit like Tim Pool (aka Beanie Baby) are. And that's how effed up you are for letting them influence you into becoming a fascist.
 
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Man he’s just so goddamn stupid. I can’t even anymore. I refuse to believe he’s a real person, and not some first gen AI attempt at your typical uneducated American.
 

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Your general commentary in every thread leans towards someone who is easily led to believe only things that reinforce your preconceived notions, and you dismiss anything that doesn’t verify those beliefs. You seem to have a tenuous grasp on your ability to differentiate propaganda from reality.
whereas you have the ability to recognize reality, right? And you think Trump is narcistic
 
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Sorry bear but this is lame and nowhere near being reality. Trump just finished a highly productive first year in office and is still kicking @$$ and taking names. TDS is funny though. You libs are hoping you can speak your wildest dreams into reality but its not happening.
TG: I have nothing against you and no axes to grind with you whatsoever. We simply happen to disagree, profoundly, on just about everything that is political. That's OK. I regard that as a sign of a still functioning democracy, although the Orange Dude you support would like to throw his critics in jail if he could do so.

I think Trump's rambling, incoherent letter to the Prime Minister of Norway speaks for itself. That was the focus of my post, and your response did not address it. Instead, you simply stated your belief that he is "kicking @$$ and taking names," and that we libs fail to see it because of our TDS. But then again, you're still regularly posting the prognostications of Q and his disciples. Carry on, and the best of health to you.
 

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Your AI summary agrees with everything they've been saying. That it was dropped because there was insufficient evidence he knowingly participated in or were aware of the scheme. The scheme that happened, they just weren't aware of the source of the money.
well, if we apply the walk like a duck theory, it might appear to a rational individual the final stride of the duck leaned pool's way
 

PawPride

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whereas you have the ability to recognize reality, right? And you think Trump is narcistic
Yeah it’s pretty easy to separate blatant propaganda from the truth.

also, it’s not narcissistic to have faith in your ability to separate propaganda from fact.
well, you can put quite a few leaders of NATO nations into the same troubled and misinformed groups. They have recognized the strategist importance of Greenland as well.
I don’t know of anyone who doesn’t recognize the strategic importance of Greenland. Once again, it’s a disagreement about this administration’s execution of their goals. It’s been my primary issue with Trump’s second term. We’re destroying our historical alliances and ruining our global influence due to this reckless geopolitical strategy
 

yoshi121374

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Yeah it’s pretty easy to separate blatant propaganda from the truth.

also, it’s not narcissistic to have faith in your ability to separate propaganda from fact.

I don’t know of anyone who doesn’t recognize the strategic importance of Greenland. Once again, it’s a disagreement about this administration’s execution of their goals. It’s been my primary issue with Trump’s second term. We’re destroying our historical alliances and ruining our global influence due to this reckless geopolitical strategy

In fact everyone recognized the importance so much that we have had an agreement for 50+ years to place military there, have bases, etc.

The wild thing is that people believed Trump when he claimed it was for military strategy. It's also hilarious that TACO folded again.

Then the guy claimed he got an agreement.... That we had already had for years.
 
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dpic73

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In fact everyone recognized the importance so much that we have had an agreement for 50+ years to place military there, have bases, etc.

The wild thing is that people believed Trump when he claimed it was for military strategy. It's also hilarious that TACO folded again.

Then the guy claimed he got an agreement.... That we had already had for years.
Also funny that Mark Rutte said they didn't discuss an agreement LOL
 
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I don’t know of anyone who doesn’t recognize the strategic importance of Greenland.
Well, now you know at least one: me. I'm sure that a case could be made for it. It sits midway between North America and Europe, and there is a decent sized land mass underneath all of that ice, so valuable minerals may at some point be discovered and/or extracted from it, but how is it strategically vital, or even important, at this point?

Military bases in Europe, the Middle East, and the Philippines (just to mention a few places) would seem FAR more important than bases in Greenland. For example , if we want to preserve freedom of navigation and contest China's territorial claims in the South China Sea, being able to base, maintain, and resupply U.S. naval ships at Subic Bay seems pretty important. Bases in the Mideast are obviously important if we need to make an immediate response to some local provocation in that area. By contrast, nothing much is going on in Greenland.

As for bombing, reconnaissance, and other missions conducted via the air, we can do pretty much any of those things from pretty much anywhere. I'm sure a case for strategic important can be made, but I question whether it is overwhelming. Particularly when compared to the costs we have been incurring in trying to force Denmark's and Western Europe's hand.
 

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Well, now you know at least one: me. I'm sure that a case could be made for it. It sits midway between North America and Europe, and there is a decent sized land mass underneath all of that ice, so valuable minerals may at some point be discovered and/or extracted from it, but how is it strategically vital, or even important, at this point?

Military bases in Europe, the Middle East, and the Philippines (just to mention a few places) would seem FAR more important than bases in Greenland. For example , if we want to preserve freedom of navigation and contest China's territorial claims in the South China Sea, being able to base, maintain, and resupply U.S. naval ships at Subic Bay seems pretty important. Bases in the Mideast are obviously important if we need to make an immediate response to some local provocation in that area. By contrast, nothing much is going on in Greenland.

As for bombing, reconnaissance, and other missions conducted via the air, we can do pretty much any of those things from pretty much anywhere. I'm sure a case for strategic important can be made, but I question whether it is overwhelming. Particularly when compared to the costs we have been incurring in trying to force Denmark's and Western Europe's hand.
Don’t get me wrong, I’m far from a military tactician, but when one of the very few topics you can get bipartisan agreement on is the strategic and military importance of Greenland, then I tend to defer to the experts.
 

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Don’t get me wrong, I’m far from a military tactician, but when one of the very few topics you can get bipartisan agreement on is the strategic and military importance of Greenland, then I tend to defer to the experts.
I don't claim to be an expert on this, either. I am really more about asking the question: What IS the basis for this conclusion of strategic importance? Understandably, most of the attention has been focused on Trump's crazy statements about invading or otherwise doing things "the hard way," so the question of strategic importance has to some extent languished on the sidelines. I have yet to see a news article focusing on that specific issue. It's like Greenland's strategic importance is simply assumed.
 

dpic73

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I don't claim to be an expert on this, either. I am really more about asking the question: What IS the basis for this conclusion of strategic importance? Understandably, most of the attention has been focused on Trump's crazy statements about invading or otherwise doing things "the hard way," so the question of strategic importance has to some extent languished on the sidelines. I have yet to see a news article focusing on that specific issue. It's like Greenland's strategic importance is simply assumed.
I've heard it's because the distance for a missile flight from Russia or China is shorter going through the arctic over Greenland and it's strategically located on the eastern boundary of the golden dome that Trump is planning. But since they'll let them put as many weapons systems as they want there plus the golden dome, there's no need to own it.
 

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Shipping lanes developing from global warming is a big factor. No alternative for moving mass goods in bulk.
And....? You could put ports and ships wherever you want on the ally's land. Spitting in their face, declaring anexation of their property, is the dumbest way to do geopolitics. Literally stupid. The world is laughing at Trump.
 
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And....? You could put ports and ships wherever you want on the ally's land. Spitting in their face, declaring anexation of their property, is the dumbest way to do geopolitics. Literally stupid. The world is laughing at Trump.
I believe it would be a big deal from both a power.abd security standpoint if you look at the ramifications for shorter routes.

This is from AI for a search

Global warming is causing the Arctic to warm four times faster than the rest of the globe, leading to rapid melting of Greenland's ice sheet and sea ice. This environmental shift is opening up new, shorter, and highly strategic shipping lanes, such as the Northern Sea Route (NSR), which reduces transit times between Asia and Europe. This has fueled geopolitical competition over access to resources, with nations like Russia and China seeking to develop these routes, notes this article from The New York Times.
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Impact on Shipping Routes
  • Faster Trade: Melting Arctic ice makes shipping routes like the Northwest Passage and the Northern Sea Route more navigable during summer months, cutting fuel costs and reducing travel time.
  • Polar Silk Road: China is developing a "Polar Silk Road," aiming to use these northern routes for faster, more direct trade, say this article from The New York Times and this article from the Belfer Center.
  • Increased Traffic: The Arctic Council has reported a 37% surge in ship traffic over the last decade, notes this article from The New York Times and the Arctic Council.
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Greenland's Strategic Role
  • Geopolitical Value: As ice melts, Greenland’s strategic location makes it more attractive for resource extraction (diamonds, lithium, copper) and as a, say this article from The Washington Post and this article from The New York Times.
  • Security Focus: The U.S. and NATO are increasing their focus on the region, with concerns about Russian and Chinese influence, notes this article from The New York Times and this article from The Guardian.
  • Environmental Impact: While melting sea ice opens routes, it also triggers significant ecological concerns, such as increased black carbon emissions from ships, which can accelerate further melting, according to this article from Discovering the Arctic.
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Key Challenges
 

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Zero % chance the cabinet will facilitate this.

House impeachment and 2/3 senate agreement is the only avenue while he is in office
 
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firegiver

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I believe it would be a big deal from both a power.abd security standpoint if you look at the ramifications for shorter routes.

This is from AI for a search

Global warming is causing the Arctic to warm four times faster than the rest of the globe, leading to rapid melting of Greenland's ice sheet and sea ice. This environmental shift is opening up new, shorter, and highly strategic shipping lanes, such as the Northern Sea Route (NSR), which reduces transit times between Asia and Europe. This has fueled geopolitical competition over access to resources, with nations like Russia and China seeking to develop these routes, notes this article from The New York Times.
View attachment 1158545The Arctic Institute +4
Impact on Shipping Routes
  • Faster Trade: Melting Arctic ice makes shipping routes like the Northwest Passage and the Northern Sea Route more navigable during summer months, cutting fuel costs and reducing travel time.
  • Polar Silk Road: China is developing a "Polar Silk Road," aiming to use these northern routes for faster, more direct trade, say this article from The New York Times and this article from the Belfer Center.
  • Increased Traffic: The Arctic Council has reported a 37% surge in ship traffic over the last decade, notes this article from The New York Times and the Arctic Council.
    View attachment 1158546CBS News +5
Greenland's Strategic Role
  • Geopolitical Value: As ice melts, Greenland’s strategic location makes it more attractive for resource extraction (diamonds, lithium, copper) and as a, say this article from The Washington Post and this article from The New York Times.
  • Security Focus: The U.S. and NATO are increasing their focus on the region, with concerns about Russian and Chinese influence, notes this article from The New York Times and this article from The Guardian.
  • Environmental Impact: While melting sea ice opens routes, it also triggers significant ecological concerns, such as increased black carbon emissions from ships, which can accelerate further melting, according to this article from Discovering the Arctic.
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Key Challenges
And?>???????

This is solving a problem that doesn't exist. Greenland would be happy to abide by whatever we dictate under normal relations. Trying to annex it, is hurting our relations with NATO which in effect will render us weaker on the global stage. Ya'll please, try to make it make sense. PLEASE. You know, in your gut this doesn't make sense.
 

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The irony of all of this abomination in my opinion is that something had to change the gridlock of a bi-polar political system. Maybe capitalism and greed has crossed the event horizon, but the only peaceful solution other than autocracy to me is rank voting.
 
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And?>???????

This is solving a problem that doesn't exist. Greenland would be happy to abide by whatever we dictate under normal relations. Trying to annex it, is hurting our relations with NATO which in effect will render us weaker on the global stage. Ya'll please, try to make it make sense. PLEASE. You know, in your gut this doesn't make sense.
I agree, but it is a power grab. Trump and making sense is an oxymoron
 
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America is the most powerful nation on planet earth. These actions lessen that.... lol
I completely agree with your point as long as the dynamics of the European NATO members provide the needed unity and strength.

Trump has already pushed significant commerce from our allies and trading partners to China which magnifies the importance of new shipping lanes that are only coming into existence by global warming.

China announced a record trade surplus of nearly $1.2 trillion in 2025, marking a 20% increase from 2024, becoming the largest in history.

This is a topic that is being diluted by the shot gun blast of turmoil like nothing we have ever experienced. Roy Cohn reincarnated into a malignant narcissist


As added in my post, Trump and making sense is an oxymoron.
 
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America is the most powerful nation on planet earth. These actions lessen that.... lol
China vastly dominates global shipbuilding over the U.S., holding over 50% of the commercial market share and possessing significantly greater capacity (potentially hundreds of times more) for both commercial and naval vessels, while the U.S. builds very few large ships, focusing heavily on its own navy with limited commercial output, leading to concerns about American industrial base and national security.
 

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I've said ... so often ... that Beanie Baby, along with other propagandists-for-profit (like Benny Johnson) were being funded by Russians, and were (allegedly) unaware it was happening ... that for you to turn around and claim folks are stating that they knew about the funding shows everyone that you're illiterate and/or completely incapable of processing basic information.

This is how you were duped by these propagandists.

You just can't function.

Again, it's actually MORE damning that Russians, attempting to sow discord in America and influence our politics, decided to find some people, and pay those people to put out the Russkies' messaging ... and they didn't even have to bribe folks like Beanie Baby to put forth this messaging ... Tim Pool and Co. were already actively doing it for them. So they just had to fund them, behind the scenes, to make sure the machine kept rolling. That's how effed up the far-right-extremist-propagandists-for-profit like Tim Pool (aka Beanie Baby) are. And that's how effed up you are for letting them influence you into becoming a fascist.
You do know the deal had nothing to do with Timcast IRL? It had to do with a different non-political show they were involved with and it wasnt the Russian GOV. So when you make blatantly false claims you are lying...
 

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Man he’s just so goddamn stupid. I can’t even anymore. I refuse to believe he’s a real person, and not some first gen AI attempt at your typical uneducated American.
All you can do is make ad hominem attacks and not backup any of your claims. Thats what low IQ people do ironically. So its seems you are educated but not too bright. Just went to school to get indoctrinated and got a certification that you are a certified idiot. Ill ask again, what am I misinformed about when it comes to NATO? After all I served in NATO for many years. Were you ever part of NATO? What are your bona fides when it comes to NATO???
 

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China vastly dominates global shipbuilding over the U.S., holding over 50% of the commercial market share and possessing significantly greater capacity (potentially hundreds of times more) for both commercial and naval vessels, while the U.S. builds very few large ships, focusing heavily on its own navy with limited commercial output, leading to concerns about American industrial base and national security.
Taking over Greenland does nothing to effect that. Nothing.
 

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You do know the deal had nothing to do with Timcast IRL?

Completely irrelevant.

It had to do with a different non-political show they were involved with

What show? I thought they were squeaky clean ... and now it's "it was a different show ... uh, that show wasn't political, so, uh, they may have been supporting the Russians and going against America in some non-political show, but not in their political shows, or something."

and it wasnt the Russian GOV.

Says who?

So when you make blatantly false claims you are lying...

Yes, YOU are.
 

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Completely irrelevant.



What show? I thought they were squeaky clean ... and now it's "it was a different show ... uh, that show wasn't political, so, uh, they may have been supporting the Russians and going against America in some non-political show, but not in their political shows, or something."



Says who?



Yes, YOU are.
Im saying they did nothing wrong unlike what you are implying. What Russian propaganda are they pushing on a non-political show? You lie by claiming he's pushing Russian propaganda with no evidence. If he had been doing so and paid by the Russian Gov I would imagine they would have charged him with a crime. They made a big deal announcing the investigation, but were super quiet with announcing they dropped it. That way simple minded tools like you would still push the smear. You need to prove he was working for Putin since you made the claim...
 
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Im saying they did nothing wrong unlike what you are implying. What Russian propaganda are they pushing on a non-political show? You lie by claiming he's pushing Russian propaganda with no evidence. If he had been doing so and paid by the Russian Gov I would imagine they would have charged him with a crime. They made a big deal announcing the investigation, but were super quiet with announcing they dropped it. That way simple minded tools like you would still push the smear. You need to prove he was working for Putin since you made the claim...
This is typical with you ... you just can't hold a normal conversation. I asked you which show ... and rather than be a normal, functioning human, and answer ... you just went on a rant, restating what you already said, which was useless the first time, and is just as useless the second time (and you'll repeat it at least 2 more times, if history repeats itself).

No, you illustrate a fundamental misunderstanding of the law ... and the world around you. It's crazy trying to talk to you, because you're never really "there." As someone else mentioned, it's like trying to deal with a faulty early attempt at AI.

A foreign entity/actor trying to manipulate elections, and otherwise manipulate American goings-on, especially without registering as a foreign agent, that's a crime. Someone domestic knowingly working with them to this end ... could also be a crime. Someone domestic spewing anti-American rhetoric, while also being unwittingly funded by foreign actors ... typically, not a crime.

How do you not know this? How are you this consistently uninformed?

It's very simple ... it's been stated many, many times ... nothing you've said has challenged this, legitimately ... Tenet Media was funded folks associated with Russian state media in order to promote pro-Russian propaganda and causes dissension in America. They signed on folks like Beanie Baby to this end, and they didn't even need to direct them to push their agenda, because Beanie Baby & Co. do it naturally.

I can't wait for you to not understand what was written, not directly address, and say something absolutely stupid defending your Russian handlers in a language that resembles English, but isn't quite English.
 
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I don't claim to be an expert on this, either. I am really more about asking the question: What IS the basis for this conclusion of strategic importance? Understandably, most of the attention has been focused on Trump's crazy statements about invading or otherwise doing things "the hard way," so the question of strategic importance has to some extent languished on the sidelines. I have yet to see a news article focusing on that specific issue. It's like Greenland's strategic importance is simply assumed.
the theory is...we're wanting to build a missile defense anticipating that any missiles would likely come from Russia and/or China. The fastest way is over Greenland. the best way to destroy incoming missiles is when in flight or or the way up..Greenland provides the best platform for the golden shield of Trump's world.

then there's the shipping lanes and routes for gunships and submarines.

Think Greenland would have "welcomed" US forces without all the threats. those are not helpful
 
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