I think I'm one of Ash's biggest fans, but I would not extend yet unless someone can make a powerful case that an extension would help us a lot in recruiting.
Time to think about an EXTENSION for Coach Ash
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You do not leave a coach with only three years on his contract. You only sign a 5 year in the first place in case you have to fire the coach after the second year because it is that obvious that he isn't going to get it done
Even Greg got an extension after year two off of 2-9 and 1-11
Got to commit to him so he can recruit without questions in the background about his job status or university commitment.
And I think it's an absolute must if he coaches us to five wins this year. And maybe even four.
Even Greg got an extension after year two off of 2-9 and 1-11
Got to commit to him so he can recruit without questions in the background about his job status or university commitment.
And I think it's an absolute must if he coaches us to five wins this year. And maybe even four.
Stop.
Let’s see how next year progresses.
Sure we are all giddy about the commit of QB Sitowski .....need to see measured improvement on the field.
Can’t have Eastern Michigan type games happening. With next year’s weak arse schedule...5 wins minimum are a must before any talk of extension.
Let’s see how next year progresses.
Sure we are all giddy about the commit of QB Sitowski .....need to see measured improvement on the field.
Can’t have Eastern Michigan type games happening. With next year’s weak arse schedule...5 wins minimum are a must before any talk of extension.
WTF .... Can our fans set the bar any lower ??????
In 2018:
Texas St.
Kansas ( worst FBS Team)
Buffalo ( 2nd worst FBS Team)
Illinois ( worst team in the B1G)
Indiana at HPSS
Northwestern at HPSS
My 88 year old grandmother could coach RU to at least 5 Wins probably 6 Wins with that schedule.
This thread was inspired by an article where BigBob said he extended Schiano after year 2.
I know sometimes you have to do extensions for reasons that have zero to do with performance, and that's fine. But for fans -- even Al -- to suggest that based on performance he deserves one is a little nutty. can he win a fourth game? Can he beat a team that doesn't suck moose balls? Can we not point to a 21-point defeat as enormous progress?
Look, I am upbeat about Ash and was shocked when there were threads about who should replace him. I'm almost as shocked to read this. Can he have a track record first?
Look, I am upbeat about Ash and was shocked when there were threads about who should replace him. I'm almost as shocked to read this. Can he have a track record first?
This needs to be done for recruiting. What you are not taking into account is that he needs to recruit, and kids want to know that their coach will be there, for the duration of their stay. We're sure not firing him after this year, so its time to extend him.
As vk91 pointed out, there may be a way to extend the contract at minimal guaranteed cost which is plausible and would help recruiting optics. I still think an extension can wait until next season but this is not an insane idea like pretty much every other post you make.
i think that has been proven. Givecthecextension.
But didn't he just get a huge commit? With only 3 years left on his contract?
The premise of this thread is a complete contradiction.
I'll play along though:
How far out done extend?
2019 recruiting ramps up in a couple months. Need to extend at least 2 additional years then right?
But they are already looking at 2020 kids too. Really need to extend out at minimum 3 years then?
Do we just go 5 year extension to be on the safe side?
Question: are coaches often renewed with three years to go on their contracts? If no one else does it for recruiting purposes, then I wonder if we should.
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If it takes three years for her to get to 1000 it will be the worst $$ EVER spent on a collegiate athletic contract...and second won't be even close...
On the one hand if you extend him now you can do it on the cheap... next year is a smarter move to wait and see but if he goes bowling it will cost you
Being that were cheap bastards I'd rather wait and see and pay for good results than speculate and be cheap
Being that were cheap bastards I'd rather wait and see and pay for good results than speculate and be cheap
We can't have any EMU type games in year three but saint Greg can have Tulane in year 10?
Don't agree with this at all with the exception is if it's only its face a 4+ contract and not fully guaranteed with manageable outs that you can exercise at any time if necessary. I'm okay with that but I don't think that's the norm. Bielema's seemed liked that, mind you it's still 5.9M, others out there not so sure. Coaches usually still get most, if not all, of what they're owed.
BM was notorious for extensions with the school left on the hook. I don't like following that pattern.
If it's a fully or nearly fully, guaranteed contract which most are as far I see these days, I'd prefer a rolling 3 year contract and that last year can lopped off when necessary.
Schools take all the risk and coaches get all the benefit. No thanks, especially a school like us with not so deep pockets. You may say extend but if something goes wrong, there will be tons of threads bemoaning the amount of money we owe and how we're stuck from making a move. On the flip side if a coach leaves too, let him. You may be losing a good one but more times than not you're not losing some superstar.
I can't say I buy the recruiting argument. It sounds plausible on its face but in practical reality I don't know that it matters that much. Recruits need some place to go. We see them jumping ship on commitments or transferring all the time for better opportunities. There are only 65 P5 schools with a limited number of scholarships and even a more limited number of starting positions. They need places to go.
Again I've said I see recruiting as a tiered pyramid with tiers getting wider as you down. Most often a school is going to recruit in the tier that the status of the school commands. Outside of super recruiter, a very poor one or some sustained success or lack there of, it's not likely to make much difference. So whether a coach has 3 years or 4+ won't change the tier we're in.
I don't get the eagerness to extend, specifically for a school like us. If you do it without full guarantees and manageable outs at any time fine but if it's fully guaranteed, no thanks.
Even next year is speculation but at least you'd have more to go on. Like I said Mike London got 8 wins in year 2 and UVA extended it dropped off and they were stuck for longer than they wanted.
I find the way schools operate kind of stupid. They don't maintain financial flexibility and are quick to jump on short term results. Even though we see the problem rear its head time and again, it still doesn't change. They just repeat the same thing only with larger numbers.
Not so fast. If we loose tomorrow, this Board will want to fire him
Too early for extension but...very surprised about the level of complaining about staff. I'm not talking about the group therapy sh*t after tough losses. There is a constant din of whining about pretty much everything. They've gotten higher profile recruits. They've identified talent (blachshear, maietti, reek before he got hurt, turner & lumor in DL rotation as RS frosh). No off field BS. And the game day results have been better in every way. Really curious what else people wanted to see in the last 3 mo's.
If he is willing to take below average pay like he has now with a $1M buy-out I'd extend him 5 more years...but why would he sign an extension for any length if it wasn't pay on par with at least Durkin or fleck or chryst?
@RUskoolie wow ! This turned out bad!
It was hilarious and shows how ridiculously deluded delusionAL is about almost everything!
God forbid the blowhards on the board have to eat some crow every once in awhile.
Good god Al. I don’t know who’s wrong more, you or Biden.
Hopefully your Surace thread ends the streak
Hopefully your Surace thread ends the streak
Why can't you just leave it alone once in a while newell?... You might get some "likes" from your buddies for interjecting unrelated political stuff into other people's threads, but it usually just ends up screwing up and derailing the thread.
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Ahh, c’mon it was a good comparison! They’re both wrong a lot and who says we can’t make political jokes anymore? It’s been a staple of comedy since the Roman times
If you read the thread I was responding to a guy who never stoped crapping on the program at that time. I was one of the first ones who said Ash needed to be fired in 2018 and that was with having family on the team. Odd bump but I know that's one of your favorite things to do on here. Let it go, the guy is in the rearview mirror.
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