Time to turn the page.... And move forward.

[Redscarlet]

I've said all along this year this is Tommy's team, he will lead us to wins and losses.

One thing needs to be discussed is what Jerry DiNardo said last August about a Nebraska football practice, If I remember correctly he said their practice looked like a Pac 12 practice meaning it wasn't very physical. Some questioned what he seen and disregarded it or didn't think to much about it, well it bothered me and it bothers me Defensive coord Mark Banker spoke to players and assistants about how Iowa's steady physical style of play told reporters "I bet their practices are like a blood bath".

If we are going to win this division and more importantly win the B1G conference and be a top 10 program we need to start playing much more physical year round.

Our biggest weakness this year from what I seen is our O-Line and our defensive ends who are not just good enough pressuring the passer... I know we have a young line and potential red shirts but we have to improve on both sides of the line...

Looking forward to seeing a new QB that fits this system hoping Tanner Lee is as good as advertised.Been along 8 years with Taylor Martinez and Tommy Armstrong they broke many of records and won some Bowl games but didn't lead us to a conference title.

It feels like we are no better off than what we were 2 years ago hopefully a Bowl win will change my out look.

 

[Lee P]

I don't see anything much different from Frank Solich's last team in 2003. Hopefully the players redshirting and the players being recruited can step up and play with a passion that has been missing since Coach Osborne. I'm trying to find some solace in our 9 & 3 season. GBR!!

 

[Redscarlet]

Husker fans need to read both articles in the Sunday OWH. Both Lee Barfknecht and Tom Shatel hit the nail on the head in their article which is what I was trying to get a cross in this post...

Riley better figure out away to getting back to being a Physical Nebraska football team and runs the ball better than chucking up long passes, understand we will have a better passin QB in the future but playing physical on both sides of the ball in practice as well in games is going to get us back in the top10 and National recognition again.

 

[otismotis08]

...and how long before we see results from Epley and Phillipp???

Many of our OL/DL players just don't look the part.

 

[GBRhuskers_rivals203711]

If I remember correctly he said their practice looked like a Pac 12 practice meaning it wasn't very physical.

DiNardo also said "Based on what I saw today, I would say going to a bowl game would be a successful year." Outstanding statement there, Gerry.

What he failed to mention was, the practice they watched was the day after a full blown scrimmage.

Gotta love it when media members leave out that small important detail.

 

[ThereIsNoPlace_rivals38755]

DiNardo also said "Based on what I saw today, I would say going to a bowl game would be a successful year." Outstanding statement there, Gerry.

What he failed to mention was, the practice they watched was the day after a full blown scrimmage.

Gotta love it when media members leave out that small important detail.

Come on dude, DiNardo saw it, Banker realized it, Iowa confirmed it on the field. Riley puts soft undisciplined teams on the field. Didn't work in the PAC12, sure as hell won't work here. But you can sure keep drinking your happy juice while the pride of our state gets trashed by kermit the coach.

 

[B1G RED RULES]

Husker fans need to read both articles in the Sunday OWH. Both Lee Barfknecht and Tom Shartel hit the nail on the head in their article which is what I was trying to get a cross in this post...

Riley better figure out away to getting back to being a Physical Nebraska football team and runs the ball better than chucking up long passes, understand we will have a better passin QB in the future but playing physical on both sides of the ball in practice as well in games is going to get us back in the top10 and National recognition again.

You say -"Riley better figure out a way to getting back to being a physical Nebraska football team". If a 63 year old coach surrounded by his buddies has not figured that out yet - it's not going to happen.

 

[GBRhuskers_rivals203711]

Come on dude, DiNardo saw it, Banker realized it, Iowa confirmed it on the field. Riley puts soft undisciplined teams on the field. Didn't work in the PAC12, sure as hell won't work here. But you can sure keep drinking your happy juice while the pride of our state gets trashed by kermit the coach.

DiNardo didn't see squat, it's obvious he hasn't called a damn thing right about Nebraska since we've joined the conference. His track record is absolutely terrible.

Wisconsin didn't confirm it? They're the most physical team in the west, not Iowa.

It didn't work under Pelini. I'll keep drinking the juice knowing that raving lunatic isn't around except for his presence. The "pride of our state" hasn't been there for a long time.

 

[ctscts]

Come on dude, DiNardo saw it, Banker realized it, Iowa confirmed it on the field. Riley puts soft undisciplined teams on the field. Didn't work in the PAC12, sure as hell won't work here. But you can sure keep drinking your happy juice while the pride of our state gets trashed by kermit the coach.

You take this kind of personal, don't you? If your pride gets trashed by a bunch of teenagers and young men playing a game, you may want to reprioritize your life.

No one likes losing, but i don't normally take a hit to my pride if I have no impact on the outcome.

 

[huskerfan1414]

We are soft. Everyone can see it.

 

[romanman]

We are soft. Everyone can see it.

I don't know, if we are that soft its more like there are no vocal leaders on this team. For years now when this team gets hit in the mouth nobody steps up last time that happen was when Suh was here. I am old enough to remember when Wistorm and the Peter Brothers played for Nebraska and wouldn't accept this style of play they are demonstrating right now.

 

[otismotis08]

I don't know, if we are that soft its more like there are no vocal leaders on this team. For years now when this team gets hit in the mouth nobody steps up last time that happen was when Suh was here. I am old enough to remember when Wistorm and the Peter Brothers played for Nebraska and wouldn't accept this style of play they are demonstrating right now.

In order to be a vocal leader, you need to have the chops to back it up.

 

[romanman]

In order to be a vocal leader, you need to have the chops to back it up.

That's why I refer to Suh, Gerry could have been that player this year, but he wasn't.

 

[Foosball is the devil]

Would like to see more creativity out of this staff. All the close games we've been in and not one trick play?
More sense of urgency. Took them all last year to figure out we should run the ball. Two years of crap special teams with no change. A QB that won't check down over and over. Adds up to extreme frustration for fans. Very natural IMO.

 

[Lew2]

I've said all along this year this is Tommy's team, he will lead us to wins and losses.

One thing needs to be discussed is what Jerry DiNardo said last August about a Nebraska football practice, If I remember correctly he said their practice looked like a Pac 12 practice meaning it wasn't very physical. Some questioned what he seen and disregarded it or didn't think to much about it, well it bothered me and it bothers me Defensive coord Mark Banker spoke to players and assistants about how Iowa's steady physical style of play told reporters "I bet their practices are like a blood bath".

If we are going to win this division and more importantly win the B1G conference and

I've said all along this year this is Tommy's team, he will lead us to wins and losses.

One thing needs to be discussed is what Jerry DiNardo said last August about a Nebraska football practice, If I remember correctly he said their practice looked like a Pac 12 practice meaning it wasn't very physical. Some questioned what he seen and disregarded it or didn't think to much about it, well it bothered me and it bothers me Defensive coord Mark Banker spoke to players and assistants about how Iowa's steady physical style of play told reporters "I bet their practices are like a blood bath".

If we are going to win this division and more importantly win the B1G conference and be a top 10 program we need to start playing much more physical year round.

Our biggest weakness this year from what I seen is our O-Line and our defensive ends who are not just good enough pressuring the passer... I know we have a young line and potential red shirts but we have to improve on both sides of the line...

Looking forward to seeing a new QB that fits this system hoping Tanner Lee is as good as advertised.Been along 8 years with Taylor Martinez and Tommy Armstrong they broke many of records and won some Bowl games but didn't lead us to a conference title.

It feels like we are no better off than what we were 2 years ago hopefully a Bowl win will change my out look.

 

[Shimmer003]

Nobody thought we were soft all year until Iowa. But when a team that's extremely thin on both lines on a short week of rest can't hold up against a good physical team playing their best football of the year all of a sudden we are soft?? Come on guys. Let's not forget the 10 games this year we weren't soft. Those still count. The Iowa game sucked and maybe I'm "making excuses" but they're valid excuses that aren't signs of long term doom and gloom (yet)

 

[Lew2]

It's not the three losses it's how we lose. This team has no leadership, tired of the whining about all they've been through. Elated they won 9 games and so on. This team is soft, every time they take a hit they're tapping out, I think most fans are fine with the record if they're playing HARD and SMART football. Could care less about the bowl game, would like to see an attitude transfusion. Example: Wisconsin who is not more talented but a whole lot smarter and tougher than NU, win or loose the effort is always there. I think there is an embedded culture that needs to be squeezed out of the program. Playing sound football is not that complicated. Running into kickers because your heads up your A##, missing gaps, -2 yard punts, ignoring assignments like contain (getting killed on QB bootlegs) 12 men on the field on a punt return, catching a punt on the 4 yd line, it goes on and on with this team. Rant over.

 

[redwine65]

I remember bo changed the practices. less contact...I wonder if thats still in effect and why we seem soft...or if it's just bad recruiting on bo's part?

 

[Redscarlet]

We are soft. Everyone can see it.

Obvious to the majority of us but a couple of people that don't want to except the fact after they even seen the beating 2 B1G opponents put on us...

Ya we played Wisconsin and Minnesota pretty physical but both those teams didn't have as good a QB the other 2 teams that beat us soundly.

 

[little a]

I've said all along this year this is Tommy's team, he will lead us to wins and losses.

One thing needs to be discussed is what Jerry DiNardo said last August about a Nebraska football practice, If I remember correctly he said their practice looked like a Pac 12 practice meaning it wasn't very physical. Some questioned what he seen and disregarded it or didn't think to much about it, well it bothered me and it bothers me Defensive coord Mark Banker spoke to players and assistants about how Iowa's steady physical style of play told reporters "I bet their practices are like a blood bath".

If we are going to win this division and more importantly win the B1G conference and be a top 10 program we need to start playing much more physical year round.

Our biggest weakness this year from what I seen is our O-Line and our defensive ends who are not just good enough pressuring the passer... I know we have a young line and potential red shirts but we have to improve on both sides of the line...

Looking forward to seeing a new QB that fits this system hoping Tanner Lee is as good as advertised.Been along 8 years with Taylor Martinez and Tommy Armstrong they broke many of records and won some Bowl games but didn't lead us to a conference title.

It feels like we are no better off than what we were 2 years ago hopefully a Bowl win will change my out look.

I just remember after last years bowl game there was such satisfaction with the game plan and style of victory and a sense that Riley "got it"- physical power football.

 

[Redscarlet]

DiNardo also said "Based on what I saw today, I would say going to a bowl game would be a successful year." Outstanding statement there, Gerry.

What he failed to mention was, the practice they watched was the day after a full blown scrimmage.

Gotta love it when media members leave out that small important detail.

Fair enough if he missed the full blown scrimmage, but if your not going to take Dinardo word maybe you should take Shatel's word..quote" But at some point, in the Big 10 you gotta line up and whip the guy in front of you. And do it all day.. And the next week, too".

 

[Redscarlet]

I just remember after last years bowl game there was such satisfaction with the game plan and style of victory and a sense that Riley "got it"- physical power football.

That was also against a soft UCLA injured Defense. I would hope Riley and his staff would figure out how to beat them with all those years of experience he has.

 

[GBRhuskers_rivals203711]

Fair enough if he missed the full blown scrimmage, but if your not going to take Dinardo word maybe you should take Shatel's word..quote" But at some point, in the Big 10 you gotta line up and whip the guy in front of you. And do it all day.. And the next week, too".

The same guy you called "Shartel"? No thanks, he covered up the previous staff for seven years, excuse after excuse. Tom isn't too happy Riley gave access to Oregon people instead of him. Trust and respect and earned, not given, Tom.

I do appreciate what Lee has to say, as he seems to call it as he sees it regardless of the popularity. I actually agree with anyone that says Nebraska has to be more physical up front on both sides of the ball. That's common sense, not earth shattering reporting.

We haven't done that since day on of joining the B1G. This isn't a "all of a sudden Mike Riley problem".

 

[nebcountry]

The same guy you called "Shartel"? No thanks, he covered up the previous staff for seven years, excuse after excuse. Tom isn't too happy Riley gave access to Oregon people instead of him. Trust and respect and earned, not given, Tom.

I do appreciate what Lee has to say, as he seems to call it as he sees it regardless of the popularity. I actually agree with anyone that says Nebraska has to be more physical up front on both sides of the ball. That's common sense, not earth shattering reporting.

We haven't done that since day on of joining the B1G. This isn't a "all of a sudden Mike Riley problem".

You are correct and wrong at the same time. Mike Riley has been here 2 full seasons+, all of a sudden it was Mike Riley's problem the day he was hired. So it appears that Mike Riley is not going to try and make the team more physical. Or should we play the "next year game".

Makes me wonder, did Harbaugh institute toughness from day one?

 

[romanman]

Nobody thought we were soft all year until Iowa. But when a team that's extremely thin on both lines on a short week of rest can't hold up against a good physical team playing their best football of the year all of a sudden we are soft?? Come on guys. Let's not forget the 10 games this year we weren't soft. Those still count. The Iowa game sucked and maybe I'm "making excuses" but they're valid excuses that aren't signs of long term doom and gloom (yet)

Maybe not soft, but not very athletic. We barely beat some pretty weak teams this year, we don't have the team speed especially on defense to sell out on the run and not make the tackle or overrun the play. The only team with overall team speed just completely smoked us. The only difference between Pelini and Riley is that Riley is not a complete madman, still getting the same results on the field for the seven years we had to endure Pelini. Maybe it will take Riley another year, like it took Franklin to get Penn St going in the right direction. Offense puts butts in the seats, but defense wins championships!

 

[Redscarlet]

The same guy you called "Shartel"? No thanks, he covered up the previous staff for seven years, excuse after excuse. Tom isn't too happy Riley gave access to Oregon people instead of him. Trust and respect and earned, not given, Tom.

I do appreciate what Lee has to say, as he seems to call it as he sees it regardless of the popularity. I actually agree with anyone that says Nebraska has to be more physical up front on both sides of the ball. That's common sense, not earth shattering reporting.

We haven't done that since day on of joining the B1G. This isn't a "all of a sudden Mike Riley problem".

It's Shatel, I just happen to hit r to quickly.Winking
I'm not putting full blame on Riley but AD Eichorst might not have given that part total attention when he was thinking about replacing Peelini.

If the sports writers see it and you and I see it and the majority of the Red Sea see it then I would expect Riley to give it considerable thought moving into next year about having more physical practices.

 

[GBRhuskers_rivals203711]

You are correct and wrong at the same time. Mike Riley has been here 2 full seasons+, all of a sudden it was Mike Riley's problem the day he was hired. So it appears that Mike Riley is not going to try and make the team more physical. Or should we play the "next year game".

Makes me wonder, did Harbaugh institute toughness from day one?

You'll have to reword the first paragraph, I'm not following it.

Harbaugh is an ELITE coach. Mike Riley is NOT an ELITE coach. There's a difference.

Nebraska hasn't had a tough program since 1999. This isn't a new "problem", which is my point that many of you struggle to understand. Or, acknowledge.

 

[Shimmer003]

Maybe not soft, but not very athletic. We barely beat some pretty weak teams this year, we don't have the team speed especially on defense to sell out on the run and not make the tackle or overrun the play. The only team with overall team speed just completely smoked us. The only difference between Pelini and Riley is that Riley is not a complete madman, still getting the same results on the field for the seven years we had to endure Pelini. Maybe it will take Riley another year, like it took Franklin to get Penn St going in the right direction. Offense puts butts in the seats, but defense wins championships!

I completely agree with your assessment. But I don't understand how anyone can expect Riley to correct our lack of team speed with one recruiting class. It's not possible when you're trying to build a program. We could have recruited juco heavy and maybe had a small bump but not enough to make us a top 10 team. Everyone wants to win now, me included, but the fact is that we need to build the program. And that's done with recruiting high school and redshirting guys that aren't going to be significant upgrades at their position. We all need to be patient. There's a ton of work that needs to be done but I really think Riley gets it and is just trying to do it the right way, even if that means a little more suffering in the short term.

 

[Bay_Area_Husker]

OP is spot-on.

 

[GBRhuskers_rivals203711]

It's Shatel, I just happen to hit r to quickly.Winking
I'm not putting full blame on Riley but AD Eichorst might not have given that part total attention when he was thinking about replacing Peelini.

If the sports writers see it and you and I see it and the majority of the Red Sea see it then I would expect Riley to give it considerable thought moving into next year about having more physical practices.

Or, he did and felt fixing the cultural was more important. Tough to argue against that, but go ahead if you want.

Physical practices aren't going to change a teams makeup. The right players, and the right coaches, with the right mentality, will change a teams makeup. Some of you act like all this team does is skeleton [7-7] work Monday thru Thursday.

 

[cubsker_rivals142943]

we need some unpleasant people from unpleasant places on the defense. not criminals, just guys that at least know some criminals.

 

[romanman]

I completely agree with your assessment. But I don't understand how anyone can expect Riley to correct our lack of team speed with one recruiting class. It's not possible when you're trying to build a program. We could have recruited juco heavy and maybe had a small bump but not enough to make us a top 10 team. Everyone wants to win now, me included, but the fact is that we need to build the program. And that's done with recruiting high school and redshirting guys that aren't going to be significant upgrades at their position. We all need to be patient. There's a ton of work that needs to be done but I really think Riley gets it and is just trying to do it the right way, even if that means a little more suffering in the short term.

A quick fix could addition by subtraction, a lot of our roster would not start for most top ten teams, especially on the both of the lines,

I completely agree with your assessment. But I don't understand how anyone can expect Riley to correct our lack of team speed with one recruiting class. It's not possible when you're trying to build a program. We could have recruited juco heavy and maybe had a small bump but not enough to make us a top 10 team. Everyone wants to win now, me included, but the fact is that we need to build the program. And that's done with recruiting high school and redshirting guys that aren't going to be significant upgrades at their position. We all need to be patient. There's a ton of work that needs to be done but I really think Riley gets it and is just trying to do it the right way, even if that means a little more suffering in the short term.

a quick fix can be addition by subtraction, our roster is full of players that wouldn't be on the roster for most of the top ten teams. Do what Dr Tom and Mcbride did in the 90's convert linebackers to defensive ends and a big safety to linebacker to get more speed on the field we also need help from the juco ranks to fill some major gaps, we cant become Kansas State and start a whole roster of jucos. Right now we don't have the athlete that has the combo of both, I prefer to see more speed on the field then size, because is not getting it done.

 

[Shimmer003]

Our linebackers are tiny and you want to insert them into defense end against teams trying to run down our throat when everyone thinks we are soft? I understand what you're say and what we did in the 90's but we have multiple issues right now and moving people around won't fix that we have no speed in the defensive back field. And putting Bando at DE would just result in teams racking up 400 yards on the ground. It sucks but sometimes the answer is that we just don't have the right players. Period. I hate. You hate it. We all hate it. But there simply aren't enough good players wearing an "N" on their helmet to stand up to a 9 game big ten schedule.

 

[B1G RED RULES]

Nobody thought we were soft all year until Iowa. But when a team that's extremely thin on both lines on a short week of rest can't hold up against a good physical team playing their best football of the year all of a sudden we are soft?? Come on guys. Let's not forget the 10 games this year we weren't soft. Those still count. The Iowa game sucked and maybe I'm "making excuses" but they're valid excuses that aren't signs of long term doom and gloom (yet)

Are you overlooking the "historic record setting" beat down that Ohio State unleashed on this group? A lot of adjectives came to mind, but I guess you are right, soft was not one of them. That came after getting curb stomped by a middle of the pack conference team.

 

[little a]

The same guy you called "Shartel"? No thanks, he covered up the previous staff for seven years, excuse after excuse. Tom isn't too happy Riley gave access to Oregon people instead of him. Trust and respect and earned, not given, Tom.

I do appreciate what Lee has to say, as he seems to call it as he sees it regardless of the popularity. I actually agree with anyone that says Nebraska has to be more physical up front on both sides of the ball. That's common sense, not earth shattering reporting.

We haven't done that since day on of joining the B1G. This isn't a "all of a sudden Mike Riley problem".

Sometimes saying and doing are two different things (physicality). This is not all on Riley-- however I do agree with Shartel (you can't bust balls for misspelling a word, c'mon man) that we need an identity- although Riley was handcuffed with Armstrong. Do you work in the media?

 

[ThereIsNoPlace_rivals38755]

You take this kind of personal, don't you? If your pride gets trashed by a bunch of teenagers and young men playing a game, you may want to reprioritize your life.

No one likes losing, but i don't normally take a hit to my pride if I have no impact on the outcome.

Welcome to southern south Dakota, because that's what NE is without football. Oh, and we get taxed due to zero tourism.

 

[ThereIsNoPlace_rivals38755]

DiNardo didn't see squat, it's obvious he hasn't called a damn thing right about Nebraska since we've joined the conference. His track record is absolutely terrible.

Wisconsin didn't confirm it? They're the most physical team in the west, not Iowa.

It didn't work under Pelini. I'll keep drinking the juice knowing that raving lunatic isn't around except for his presence. The "pride of our state" hasn't been there for a long time.

For the record, I said nothing about b.p., you did. I would have fired bo a year sooner and hired a coach that had winning records on his resume.

 

[ThereIsNoPlace_rivals38755]

we need some unpleasant people from unpleasant places on the defense. not criminals, just guys that at least know some criminals.

Even though I loathe your screen name, that's funny right there, I don't care who you are.

 

[ctscts]

Welcome to southern south Dakota, because that's what NE is without football. Oh, and we get taxed due to zero tourism.

Yes, i am quite certain my quality of living will drastically change if the Huskers aren't good.

Wait, are you serious?

 

[ThereIsNoPlace_rivals38755]

Yes, i am quite certain my quality of living will drastically change if the Huskers aren't good.

Wait, are you serious?

It's a mindset, if you don't understand it, then go away.