Timing on Lemonis Firing

[The Peeper]

James got drafted dumbass.

When he was wearing maroon and white he was horrible you 17n douchbag. Did I not give him props for being a very good 3rd baseman when he got away from Lemonis you 17n dipshat?

 

[Maroon13]

James got drafted dumbass.

.... and had a good two years as a starter at MSU.

 

[OG Goat Holder]

When he was wearing maroon and white he was horrible you 17n douchbag. Did I not give him props for being a very good 3rd baseman when he got away from Lemonis you 17n dipshat?

He didn't transfer out. He played here in 2020, 2021 and 2022. Then got drafted.

At least get the basics right.

 

[The Peeper]

At least get the basics right.

Do I or any of the other posters on this board need to broach the subject of your record when it comes to getting "the basics right"? I really don't think you want anyone to even begin to go down that road

 

[Seinfeld]

A whole lot of Miss Cleo’s on here who are evidently experts on exactly what would have happened in some alternate reality.

We played 6 weekend series against regional level teams before canning Lemonis. We lost 5 of them, and were swept in 2 of them. The one series we played against a non-regional team was against South Carolina. They were swept 5 times this year, and we were one of the teams who didn’t sweep them. We also lost every single HOME series except South Carolina. Completely choked away just about every close game.

Bottom line - we performed about as poorly as we possibly could have in the first 7 weeks of the conference slate. It was obvious to everyone after Auburn that a change was needed, and it was made. After the change, we performed about as well as we possibly could have. I’m no expert on revisionist history and can’t say at all exactly what Lemonis would have done, but evidence on hand doesn’t suggest its very likely that he finishes 8-1….including 5-1 against two likely regional teams.

Can’t add much to this other than saying that for those thinking that Lemonis would’ve gone 10-1 during this stretch too, let me point out that at no point during his 7 year tenure here did Lemonis ever go 10-1 during conference play.

In fact, he only did it once, period, during a stretch against the likes of JSU, SE Louisiana, and Maine

 

[onewoof]

Can’t add much to this other than saying that for those thinking that Lemonis would’ve gone 10-1 during this stretch too, let me point out that at no point during his 7 year tenure here did Lemonis ever go 10-1 during conference play.

In fact, he only did it once, period, during a stretch against the likes of JSU, SE Louisiana, and Maine

MAN, these facts are brutally true. Wow.

 

[thekimmer]

Should have happened 2 years ago but that ship long sailed.

This season the timing was about right but could have been done a bit earlier.

 

[patdog]

Can’t add much to this other than saying that for those thinking that Lemonis would’ve gone 10-1 during this stretch too, let me point out that at no point during his 7 year tenure here did Lemonis ever go 10-1 during conference play.

In fact, he only did it once, period, during a stretch against the likes of JSU, SE Louisiana, and Maine

Did he ever play 3 series in a row vs teams with an average conference record of 11-19?

 

[StillTbonewannabe]

James got drafted dumbass.

Making an assumption here but I think he was referring to Slate Alford.

 

[StillTbonewannabe]

It was the right move. MSU shouldn't be a "maybe we slide into the postseason" baseball program. It's clear that we have regressed to that and was time to nip it before anyone had the chance to rationalize a 2/3 seed as a foundation for the future.

Correct. We should be hosting more Regionals than we miss. I think host at least 30-40% is the baseline, and we should never miss one unless it is something crazy.

 

[Bucksnort_Dawg]

I may be missing something but feel like this team could have just as easily finished the season the same way if Lemonis had not been fired. Selmon would then have a tougher decision on whether to move on from Lemonis or not. Feels like the timing of the decision to let him go after the Auburn series was right on to avoid this exact situation. I know some think he should have been let go end of 2023 season but that would have been really hard for a brand new AD to make that decision especially with a coach who had won the schools only national title just two years prior. Anyhow seems like a sneaky great strategic decision on timing from Selmon - not sure if we are allowed to give him credit on here.

Good to hear from you Lem. Hope the move is going smooth.

 

[pmack3641]

I may be missing something but feel like this team could have just as easily finished the season the same way if Lemonis had not been fired. Selmon would then have a tougher decision on whether to move on from Lemonis or not. Feels like the timing of the decision to let him go after the Auburn series was right on to avoid this exact situation. I know some think he should have been let go end of 2023 season but that would have been really hard for a brand new AD to make that decision especially with a coach who had won the schools only national title just two years prior. Anyhow seems like a sneaky great strategic decision on timing from Selmon - not sure if we are allowed to give him credit on here.

I disagree, imo I think he lost the team just around the 1/2 mark. I thought he get fired around that time, they were really playing like . Parker gave them a fresh start, probably made some internal changes to help relieve some of the pressure they were under. It was the right move so far, it remains to be seen on how it plays out.

 

[Seinfeld]

Did he ever play 3 series in a row vs teams with an average conference record of 11-19?

I hear you, Missouri is a historically bad SEC baseball team this year. That said, even if you throw them entirely out and ask how many times Lemonis went just 7-1 during conference play, the answer is twice.

Two times in 7 years...

 

[patdog]

I hear you, Missouri is a historically bad SEC baseball team this year. That said, even if you throw them entirely out and ask how many times Lemonis went just 7-1 during conference play, the answer is twice.

Two times in 7 years...

Trust me, I'm not defending Lemonis in any way. Just pointing out that while Parker has done OK, it's not like he's faced a murders row schedule. #7 Mississippi at home is pretty good, even though we've owned them for most of the last 12 years. But #13 Kentucky and at #16 Missouri is as easy as it gets. Not buying that we've "turned the season around."

 

[Seinfeld]

Trust me, I'm not defending Lemonis in any way. Just pointing out that while Parker has done OK, it's not like he's faced a murders row schedule. #7 Mississippi at home is pretty good, even though we've owned them for most of the last 12 years. But #13 Kentucky and at #16 Missouri is as easy as it gets. Not buying that we've "turned the season around."

Oh, I completely agree on that point. I think people need to pump the brakes some on this "miraculous turnaround" because it's fair to assume that many decent coaches could've achieved the same results with the same schedule.

I'm just not sure that Lemonis is one of the names on that list

 

[patdog]

Oh, I completely agree on that point. I think people need to pump the brakes some on this "miraculous turnaround" because it's fair to assume that many decent coaches could've achieved the same results with the same schedule.

I'm just not sure that Lemonis is one of the names on that list

I think he might have gone 7-2 with that schedule. Or he might have gone 3-6.