The shooters at Columbine and Sandy never went to trial. They either shot themselves or were killed. Are you and "Colin" upset and protesting about all the murders in Chicago by the hands of gang members? Haven't heard a peep about that.
Tired of the National Anthem protests. If you don't like it then GTFO.
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Agree mostly, but the Niners player was adopted and taken in by a white family wasn't he? If this country was as oppressive and racist as he says it is, then how would that have ever happened? Are there still racists in America? Absolutely. By all races.
How can anyone not think this country has not progressed in race relations is beyond me(don't mean you BlueKel).
The USA has a black President. He is the most powerful leader in the world. The AG of the USA is black and the one before her was black. The head of Homeland security is black. Oprah Winfrey is maybe the most influential person the media. Colin Powell was Sec of State for a white President. Countless coaches, Business owners, major news anchors, etc are black and I don't think anyone really gives it a second thought. That means it's not considered out of the ordinary or unusual. Glad to live in a country like this.
Are there still problems? Yes. There always will be. But to say that this country is oppressive to minorities or certain races nowadays is not true. The mere fact that he can protest by not standing for the anthem and not be prosecuted proves his stance is not true.
Why do you assume that simply because he was taken into a white family and has had a very successful career, that he hasn't been discriminated against personally or seen it happen to others? Who knows what he or those he knows experienced and simply because he grew up with a white family, don't assume he's had the perfect utopian life where everyone has been treated equally.
And the fact that this country is "less racist" (for the lack of a better term) than in the past is irrelevant.
And the fact that this country is "less racist" (for the lack of a better term) than in the past is irrelevant.
I definitely don't subscribe to the "love it or GTFO" belief.
But I definitely think most of this stuff is just attention whoring, as evidenced by Megan Rapinoe's bitching about not having an opportunity to kneel during the anthem the other night when the opposing team played it early.
I would be much more impressed if her form of protest was declining to participate on the USWNT rather than simply kneel during the anthem. Of course, she isn't doing that. Likely because it would actually cost her money and require a sacrifice.
Matt Jones talked on KSR this morning about Demarcus Cousins, what he's done in Alabama to help bridge the gap between the police and the African-American community, and how he was recognized for his efforts on the floor of the state legislature. He's also gotten very little credit or attention for it. Now that is stepping up to help make a difference in areas where you perceive injustice - not sitting or kneeling during the national anthems, or wearing socks depicting police officers as pigs. That's just attention whoring ********, IMO.
But I definitely think most of this stuff is just attention whoring, as evidenced by Megan Rapinoe's bitching about not having an opportunity to kneel during the anthem the other night when the opposing team played it early.
I would be much more impressed if her form of protest was declining to participate on the USWNT rather than simply kneel during the anthem. Of course, she isn't doing that. Likely because it would actually cost her money and require a sacrifice.
Matt Jones talked on KSR this morning about Demarcus Cousins, what he's done in Alabama to help bridge the gap between the police and the African-American community, and how he was recognized for his efforts on the floor of the state legislature. He's also gotten very little credit or attention for it. Now that is stepping up to help make a difference in areas where you perceive injustice - not sitting or kneeling during the national anthems, or wearing socks depicting police officers as pigs. That's just attention whoring ********, IMO.
Blacks are killed disproportionately. If you would actually look at the numbers and know what you are looking at its pretty easy to see.
and Please stop with the "black on black crime epidemic" narrative....acting like its just out of control. 90% of violent crime committed against African Americans is done by an African American....90% of violent crime committed against white Americans is committed by other whites. African Americans are not inherently more violent or criminal...which is essentially the point you are getting at when you quote the "black on black" crime. I don't hear white people outraged at the white on white crime or protesting for change about it....see how that works?
and Please stop with the "black on black crime epidemic" narrative....acting like its just out of control. 90% of violent crime committed against African Americans is done by an African American....90% of violent crime committed against white Americans is committed by other whites. African Americans are not inherently more violent or criminal...which is essentially the point you are getting at when you quote the "black on black" crime. I don't hear white people outraged at the white on white crime or protesting for change about it....see how that works?
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IDK what that guy was talking about. Cop kills one black and it's an outrage.. during that outrage 10 blacks kill 10 other blacks.. no one seems to do anything or rise up.
It's plain as day.
I'm not saying the AA community doesn't care about this. Of course they do. But their priorities are totally backwards. If the fundamental issue is loss of life, you tackle the issue that's taking more lives..
I'm 100% not saying blacks are inherently more violent, because they aren't. I'm saying the black community and black culture RIGHT NOW have a horrific problem of murdering each other at a rate WAY above any other community. Whites and blacks have roughly the same amount of same race murder while white people make up like 50%+ more of the country. How is that not a MUCH bigger problem than cops killing even I'll say 50 black people?
Whites don't care in general. They aren't picking and choosing what crimes they care about.
You don't see riots when a black cop kills a white kid. You don't hear much when a black gangbanger shoots a white person.
No, they aren't. At least, not according to a black economist from Harvard who presumably knows infinitely more about the subject matter than you.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/12/u...e-use-of-force-but-not-in-shootings.html?_r=0
"Mr. Fryer found that in such situations, officers in Houston were about 20 percent less likely to shoot if the suspects were black."
"In shootings in these 10 cities involving officers, officers were more likely to fire their weapons without having first been attacked when the suspects were white. Black and white civilians involved in police shootings were equally likely to have been carrying a weapon. Both results undercut the idea of racial bias in police use of lethal force."
To be fair, the study does support the beliefs that blacks are more likely to be subject to the use of non-lethal force. You'll notice that nowhere in this thread have I argued that we don't have a lot of room for improvement in our policing, especially that of minorities. But there simply is no data to suggest that blacks are killed at disproportionate rates by police officers.
Hating on our own country is now in style. It's fashionable, even.
The issue is this:
1) When white people talk about slavery they literally add 100 years to how long ago it was... Slavery was abolished in 1865. That really isn't that long ago.
2) While slavery was abolished in 1865, in the south segregation and Jim Crow Law remained in effect until the late 1960s. These laws kept and turned away African americans from housing, food, healthcare, education. My father in Law lived through some Jim Crow Laws....not that long ago...
This is taken in 1967:
4) Due to Jim Crow, relocation began to happen which created these inner city communities and "ghettos" as we call them that were essentially neglected and preyed upon with the cocaine, herion, and marijuana rush.
5) Then came the implementation of the War On Drugs which statistically targeted African American males and sentenced them much harsher. This creates single family households with no father figure which translates to generational poverty and a ton of other systemic issues within this particular culture.
Those are facts. That happened. Am I saying all problems within the black community are the fault of the white man? Heck no. But if you cannot look at that history and see the oppression and how it can have lasting effects throughout generations and present obstacles that are exclusive to that demographic, I really don't know what to say to you.
1) When white people talk about slavery they literally add 100 years to how long ago it was... Slavery was abolished in 1865. That really isn't that long ago.
2) While slavery was abolished in 1865, in the south segregation and Jim Crow Law remained in effect until the late 1960s. These laws kept and turned away African americans from housing, food, healthcare, education. My father in Law lived through some Jim Crow Laws....not that long ago...
This is taken in 1967:
4) Due to Jim Crow, relocation began to happen which created these inner city communities and "ghettos" as we call them that were essentially neglected and preyed upon with the cocaine, herion, and marijuana rush.
5) Then came the implementation of the War On Drugs which statistically targeted African American males and sentenced them much harsher. This creates single family households with no father figure which translates to generational poverty and a ton of other systemic issues within this particular culture.
Those are facts. That happened. Am I saying all problems within the black community are the fault of the white man? Heck no. But if you cannot look at that history and see the oppression and how it can have lasting effects throughout generations and present obstacles that are exclusive to that demographic, I really don't know what to say to you.
Eh, that research kinda omits some key factors and gives police the benefit of the doubt--
Also According to study by Cal Poly professor on shootings by police from 2010-2015
Whites ratio is 1.47 per 1,000,000 are fatally shot and killed
Black ratio is 32.6 per 1,000,000...
ALso before you say more whites are killed by cops than blacks...
263 blacks were killed last year... Black people make up 12% of the population. 414 whites were killed and they make up 77% of the population. So, if blacks were killed at relatively the same rate as whites were by cops the number 263 should be roughly 64.5.Blacks are being killed by police at 4x the rate. Theres an issue there. Theres an injustice there. If I had the time Id even show you the rates dealing with bond, sentencing and other issues where blacks are treated very differently than whites.
Also According to study by Cal Poly professor on shootings by police from 2010-2015
Whites ratio is 1.47 per 1,000,000 are fatally shot and killed
Black ratio is 32.6 per 1,000,000...
ALso before you say more whites are killed by cops than blacks...
263 blacks were killed last year... Black people make up 12% of the population. 414 whites were killed and they make up 77% of the population. So, if blacks were killed at relatively the same rate as whites were by cops the number 263 should be roughly 64.5.Blacks are being killed by police at 4x the rate. Theres an issue there. Theres an injustice there. If I had the time Id even show you the rates dealing with bond, sentencing and other issues where blacks are treated very differently than whites.
And that's the problem... that the photo I posted offends you, rather than enlightens you.....heaven forbid you come to terms with what exactly went down up until 1967....
Hate to see your reaction to the movie "Birth Of A Nation"....that comes out in October
The way white people scream "black on black crime" and insinuate how violent they are you would've thought Black people enslaved white people....
it offends me and triggers me because I've had family get hanged. Again, your privileges. Check them.
Does "Birth of a Nation" have vaginers in it? Sounds like it should.
Everyone on this board has had someone somewhere in their family hung probably... Now how many of us have had family hung in a tree and a party thrown with hundreds of people having a good time with a lynched, dead body hanging in a tree?
It's not as simple as looking at population percentages and numbers of people shot and killed by police. I can't tell if you don't realize that or are being obtuse. These numbers need to be controlled for other factors, which is what the Harvard economist did.Eh, that research kinda omits some key factors and gives police the benefit of the doubt--
Also According to study by Cal Poly professor on shootings by police from 2010-2015
Whites ratio is 1.47 per 1,000,000 are fatally shot and killed
Black ratio is 32.6 per 1,000,000...
ALso before you say more whites are killed by cops than blacks...
263 blacks were killed last year... Black people make up 12% of the population. 414 whites were killed and they make up 77% of the population. So, if blacks were killed at relatively the same rate as whites were by cops the number 263 should be roughly 64.5.Blacks are being killed by police at 4x the rate. Theres an issue there. Theres an injustice there. If I had the time Id even show you the rates dealing with bond, sentencing and other issues where blacks are treated very differently than whites.
For the record, I think I would agree with your other points - the war on drugs, sentencing issues, etc. But that's not what we're discussing at the moment.
That picture was taken in 1930, not 1967 like you suggest. You should probably be aware of that when you're in this type of discussion. I mean you're only off 2 generations.
Eh, that research kinda omits some key factors and gives police the benefit of the doubt--
Also According to study by Cal Poly professor on shootings by police from 2010-2015
Whites ratio is 1.47 per 1,000,000 are fatally shot and killed
Black ratio is 32.6 per 1,000,000...
ALso before you say more whites are killed by cops than blacks...
263 blacks were killed last year... Black people make up 12% of the population. 414 whites were killed and they make up 77% of the population. So, if blacks were killed at relatively the same rate as whites were by cops the number 263 should be roughly 64.5.Blacks are being killed by police at 4x the rate. Theres an issue there. Theres an injustice there. If I had the time Id even show you the rates dealing with bond, sentencing and other issues where blacks are treated very differently than whites.
Does this mean that the US Justice system is biased against males? Honest question.
This is taken in 1967:
No, that photo was not taken in 1967.
That photo was taken in 1930. It the lynching of Thomas Shipp and Abram Smith in Marion, Indiana. They were jailed for the robbery and murder of Claude Deeter and subsequently drug out of prison and hanged by that mob.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lynching_of_Thomas_Shipp_and_Abram_Smith
Skipped through 4 pages but will assume everyone has the same opinion as me--Sean is a goober who I am pretty certain just makes **** up in order to argue with people.
If I am off base so be it. Just making an assumption.
If I am off base so be it. Just making an assumption.
I got that off a site that said it was taken in 1967... Big deal... Lynchings/Hangings were still happening in 1960-1970. I don't care what crime they committed you have never seen a white person hung and treated like that. Never. The fact you think they did someone criminal justifies treating someone like that show how much of a ****** *** person you really are.
Lets hear your explanation of this:
The lynching of two black men, Roosevelt Townes and Robert “Bootjack” McDaniels, in Duck Hill on April 13, 1937, gained widespread publicity. The men were arraigned in Montgomery County Courthouse in nearby Winona, charged with murdering George Windham, a local grocer. Both plead “not guilty” and were then escorted by police from the courthouse, where a mob abducted the two men, loaded them into a school bus, then drove them to a wooded lot near Duck Hill. A crowd of five-hundred looked on as Townes and McDaniels were each chained to a tree, after which a blowtorch was used on McDaniels to torture a confession of murder from him. Once obtained, he was shot dead, and the blowtorch was used to extract Townes’ confession. A fire was then lit beneath Townes and he was burned to death. The police officers who had been guarding the two defendants were unable to identify any members of the mob, and no charges were laid for the abduction or murder.
The lynching of two black men, Roosevelt Townes and Robert “Bootjack” McDaniels, in Duck Hill on April 13, 1937, gained widespread publicity. The men were arraigned in Montgomery County Courthouse in nearby Winona, charged with murdering George Windham, a local grocer. Both plead “not guilty” and were then escorted by police from the courthouse, where a mob abducted the two men, loaded them into a school bus, then drove them to a wooded lot near Duck Hill. A crowd of five-hundred looked on as Townes and McDaniels were each chained to a tree, after which a blowtorch was used on McDaniels to torture a confession of murder from him. Once obtained, he was shot dead, and the blowtorch was used to extract Townes’ confession. A fire was then lit beneath Townes and he was burned to death. The police officers who had been guarding the two defendants were unable to identify any members of the mob, and no charges were laid for the abduction or murder.
I usually don't harp on grammar, but when someone brags about "multiple thesis" (sic) while in graduate school then, well, they bring it on themselves. You write at about the same grade level as your IQ, with both being in the low single digits.
Its called speech to text....being that im in the middle of a long *** commute today
uhhhhhh yea. My great great great grand daddy. They had a party. Folks even took turns smacking him with a stick like a pinata. There was a band. It played happy music. Someone even pulled his pants down and tied a thread to his pecker with a 2 pound weight on the end of it to see how long it would stretch over a 2 day period.
Leo Frank is you great granddaddy? And the if so the stuff you claim happened did not happen to him...nice try though...
and the 2nd photo is of Nazi war criminals in Germany....which has 0 to do with the history of this country we are talking about lol....
Once again your verbal skills come shining through.
Going with the old "speech to text" excuse, huh? The second most common hobgoblin (next to the venerable "damn this stupid auto-correct" of the grammatically little mind. Nice work.
Come at me when you have 2 masters degrees from USC, got a 34 on the ACT and a 2042 on the SAT. I worry about making sure my grammar is impeccable in everything I write for my job....so pardon me for relaxing my standards a bit on a general message board... and using the Speech to Text feature while I am driving so I don't get killed or kill someone taking my eyes off the road to type...
NO GODDAMNIT I SAID S A T ON THAT SECOND ONE, GAWL PHONE COME ON
I am 10000% confident that you did not get a 34 on the ACT.
So, when are you going to post these thesisisis so we can confirm whether or not you're full of ****?
You don't slang credentials like that around here without proof, bud.
You don't slang credentials like that around here without proof, bud.
Siri is definitely much better... the Nexus 6 sucks at this. Literally sent a tweet to Matt jones that was supposed to read "Kentucky Sports Radio" but instead read " whores space "...that resulted in just deleting that tweet to say the least.
Yes I wont dispute that back in those days people were hung as a punishment for crimes. But theres a tad bit of difference of going through the entire court process and appeals, being found guilty, and sentenced to a public hanging, and not being afforded the process of the courts and being hung and celebrated...or having a blowtorch taken to you to coerce a confession...and then being put on display at mutilated.... Being lynched outside of the law for whatever basis people saw fit. You are making a comparison between two things that are very, very different.