To quote Brian Hadad, "Why are you mad?"

[Hump4Hoops]

We are who we thought we were. Did you expect us to beat USC at the start of the year? No. Did you expect us to beat USC this morning? No. Were you calling for Dan's head before the season? No.

So I repeat, why are you mad? Because we are going to finish with 5-6 wins just like most of you expected.

 

[DesotoCountyDawg]

You're right but I'm only mad because we had the ability to be in this game. Turnovers destroyed that hope.

 

[TBone.sixpack]

How we do it. How we got there.

Struggle against **** teams and get blown out against better teams. That makes me mad. Guess I'm irrational.

 

[hatfieldms]

This

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[IBleedMaroonDawg]

Mad, no. Disappointed, very.

Turnovers
An offense that consists of 1. Jet Sweep 2. Zone Read Option 3. 5-7 yds curl pass. 4. WR screen
DBs that can't cover a post pattern against any WR
A general sense of confusion on offense in every game

 

[cheewgumm]

Exactly. If you expect to compete in these types of games, you're only hurting

yourself.

It's only 10 or 11 months until Alcorn or Jackson State come back to town. THOSE are our games...not this. We don't compete in this league..and should not expect to. It's the SEC. Who are we kidding?

We are who we thought we were. Did you expect us to beat USC at the start of the year? No. Did you expect us to beat USC this morning? No. Were you calling for Dan's head before the season? No.

So I repeat, why are you mad? Because we are going to finish with 5-6 wins just like most of you expected.

 

[o_1984Dawg]

and the better teams didn't even play that well is the worst part. OSU, Auburn, and SC were all winnable games, but we were closer to losing to UK and BG than winning any of them.

 

[mcdawg22]

What's nuts is, Hadad is the calm, introspective, rationale voice right now.

 

[MSUDawg25]

I completely agree. We also know that we are going to be able to win a good amount of games next year. The schedule is easier and the team should be better. It isn't going to matter who the coach is. We will probably win 8-9 games next year with Mullen. We would likely win 8-9 games if Hudspeth was coach. But if we made a change this year, the anti-Mullen crowd would have the appearance of being "right". And then we'd be right back here in 4-5 years. I like Hudspeth. If its not Mullen, I want Hudspeth. But lack of stability and quick trigger is not a recipe for success at MSU.

 

[esplanade91]

I expected to lose to OKSU, Aub, and USC, but I didn't expect to be shut out by OKSU, I didn't expect to be beating Auburn with 5 seconds left, and I didn't expect to nearly shut USC down on 3rd down, give up over 50% of their points on TO's, and only allow like 180 passing yards. That's not mentioning LSU, another team we should have had a chance to beat late but ended in a blowout. I don't think Mullen is a horrible coach, and if I wanted to I could find posts where I said we would win 5 games, but this team lacks coaching and any kind of leadership. Mullen COULD be a great coach here, but he makes too much money to hire proper assistants and according to the newspapers making more is his top priority (I'm referring to extention talks).

I don't have the anger I had when I wanted to fire Croom. I honestly don't give a ****, which I really think is worse.

 

[cheewgumm]

Neither is sticking with coaches that are not right. You don't stay with someone just so you can say you are staying with someone.

I completely agree. We also know that we are going to be able to win a good amount of games next year. The schedule is easier and the team should be better. It isn't going to matter who the coach is. We will probably win 8-9 games next year with Mullen. We would likely win 8-9 games if Hudspeth was coach. But if we made a change this year, the anti-Mullen crowd would have the appearance of being "right". And then we'd be right back here in 4-5 years. I like Hudspeth. If its not Mullen, I want Hudspeth. But lack of stability and quick trigger is not a recipe for success at MSU.

 

[UIUCDog]

So your rationale for not making a change...

...is so that those who would like to see a change "don't have the appearance of being right"? That is bizarre. Is Mullen the guy to lead this football program or not?

 

[thatsbaseball]

Isn`t he a broadcast journalist now ?

 

[muddawgs]

We are who we thought we were. Did you expect us to beat USC at the start of the year? No. Did you expect us to beat USC this morning? No. Were you calling for Dan's head before the season? No.

So I repeat, why are you mad? Because we are going to finish with 5-6 wins just like most of you expected.

I don't get mad about losing. It's how we lose that makes me mad. When I see more effort out of my 7 year old than I do from our scholarship football players, it kinda pisses me off. The mental mistakes we make as team make me mad. a good well coached football team doesn't make the mental mistakes we make. Just like when we lose to A&M and Bama, I'm not going to get mad that we lost, but I guarantee we will make mental mistakes that we shouldn't be making in the 9th and 10th games of the year

 

[The Peeper]

USM is our Alcorn/JState game next year. They'll be riding a 24 game 2 season losing streak and will play their hearts out against us and we'll pull one out our arses to the tune of 13-10, assuming we get into fg range of a kicker that hits as many uprights as good kicks

 

[MSUDawg25]

...is so that those who would like to see a change "don't have the appearance of being right"? That is bizarre. Is Mullen the guy to lead this football program or not?

No, my point was that a lot of people calling for mullen's head want it done this year because they know we will probably win a bunch of games next year no matter who is coach, so they will appear right. I am neutral.

 

[DerHntr]

What's nuts is, Hadad is the calm, introspective, rationale voice right now.

Has to be taking acting classes

 

[121Josey]

We are who we thought we were. Did you expect us to beat USC at the start of the year? No. Did you expect us to beat USC this morning? No. Were you calling for Dan's head before the season? No.

So I repeat, why are you mad? Because we are going to finish with 5-6 wins just like most of you expected.

I did. 21-17. This was another Gator Bowl 2013.

I just wish we were more than paper champions...

1st Downs	23	12
3rd down efficiency	6-13	1-11
4th down efficiency	1-1	0-0
Total Yards	385	307
Passing	235	147
Comp-Att	28-43	10-20
Yards per pass	5.5	7.4
Rushing	150	160
Rushing Attempts	35	34
Yards per rush	4.3	4.7

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[woozman]

What's nuts is, Hadad is the calm, introspective, rationale voice right now.

Was thinking the same thing...

 

[DesotoCountyDawg]

You can make that point til you're blue in the face.

It's not going to stick to most here. Until Mullen is gone and their Hudspeth fantasy comes true.

 

[thatsbaseball]

Does he have a choice now ?

 

[mcdawg22]

You're right, if he is a radio personality he can be the voice of the fan, but now, not so much. Heavy is the head.

 

[was21]

And that's exactly what it is..a "fantasy"..Hudspeth will never be the HC at State

 

[thatsbaseball]

and he`s definitely not a dubmass

 

[cletusdawg]

I completely agree. We also know that we are going to be able to win a good amount of games next year. The schedule is easier and the team should be better. It isn't going to matter who the coach is. We will probably win 8-9 games next year with Mullen. We would likely win 8-9 games if Hudspeth was coach. But if we made a change this year, the anti-Mullen crowd would have the appearance of being "right". And then we'd be right back here in 4-5 years. I like Hudspeth. If its not Mullen, I want Hudspeth. But lack of stability and quick trigger is not a recipe for success at MSU.

im getting so sick of hearing this. Do you see any kind of stability with Mullen? Do you see any kind of consistency with Mullen? Any sense of progression? Hell no. It is obvious now in year 5 that he is not coach we need. Our team plays half the time looking like this is the first time they have ever played football, clueless and lost. The fact that I'm mad is not that we have lost some games, I'm mad at the way we have looked in those, and hell even the games we have won we looked like ****. and I'm not just talking about the on-field issues. Every year that we keep Mullen we are getting further and further in a hole recruiting. Every year we get further and further behind. These "diamonds in the rough" just aren't gonna cut it anymore and that seems to be all mullen can get, except for a few guys i.e. Chris Jones, who im sure is kicking himself right now. Im not necessarily a pro-hudspeth, but 17 its obvious Mullen cant get the job done. Can any of you honestly see a bright future with Mullen as HC? NO. So why keep him around. So we are not the school that fires the coach who has got us to back to back bourbon bowls.

 

[MSUDawg25]

Do you see any kind of stability with Mullen? Do you see any kind of consistency with Mullen?

More so than ever before in my lifetime. Winning seasons are really 17ing hard to come by at MSU. Progression? Maybe not. I don't like Mullen. I think he's an arrogant douche. I like winning football games though. If I thought we could get somebody who could win more games, I'd take it in a split 17ing second. Fact is though, if we fired him this year, it would be a HUGE PR nightmare from the national media. If I was Mark Hudspeth and we fired Mullen this year, I wouldn't even consider taking the job. I'd wait on a middle tier, Non-SEC school to come calling.

 

[seb304]

More so than ever before in my lifetime. Winning seasons are really 17ing hard to come by at MSU. Progression? Maybe not. I don't like Mullen. I think he's an arrogant douche. I like winning football games though. If I thought we could get somebody who could win more games, I'd take it in a split 17ing second. Fact is though, if we fired him this year, it would be a HUGE PR nightmare from the national media. If I was Mark Hudspeth and we fired Mullen this year, I wouldn't even consider taking the job. I'd wait on a middle tier, Non-SEC school to come calling.

Are you serious? The national media were the first ones to realize Mullen was a ****** coach.

 

[MSUDawg25]

And they will be the first ones to crucify us for firing our most successful coach ever. Isn't there a sportswriter who loved to hate on Stansbury, but immediately shat all over us when we fired him? I can't remember any of those guys names.

 

[HD6]

I haven't been told to not say anything. I will continue to speak my mind, since that's what I prefer to do.

But that being said, while I am disappointed in today's game, and I would go so far as to say we had a good enough team to win if we had played a better game, we are exactly at the record I thought we would be at after 8 games. We will in all likelihood be at the record I predicted after 10 games. Games 11 and 12 will tell the story for Dan Mullen.

 

[57stratdawg]

My idea of hell is having to watch Mullen coach my favorite team in a big game situation..

 

[HD6]

The fact that you thought a 4-3 team that has struggled all year was going to beat a top 15 6-2 team that Vegas installed as a two touchdown favorite on the road isn't Dan Mullen's fault.

 

[thatsbaseball]

When I said "does he have a choice" I wasn`t speaking in terms of you being an employee being told what to do i was saying you`re too sharp to say something controversial on a message board with the other things you have going on right now. What purpose would it serve ? I called myself paying you a compliment...

 

[HD6]

If I agreed with the fire Mullen sentiment, I'd say it here. But as of this moment in time, I don't. Come back to me November 29th, I might have a different answer.

 

[Hump4Hoops]

If on November 29th, MSU has 4 wins, I'll jump on the bandwagon head first

I can not see it happening though.

 

[GTAdawg]

I hope you don't have a different answer on 11/29.*

Nt

 

[121Josey]

The fact that you thought a 4-3 team that has struggled all year was going to beat a top 15 6-2 team that Vegas installed as a two touchdown favorite on the road isn't Dan Mullen's fault.

Never said it was. The game was winnable. State won most categories except points and turnovers. I just know that it's hard to get up for two SEC games in a row, especially an OT victory on the road.

I guess Vegas always gets it right.**

Read...

We are who we thought we were. Did you expect us to beat USC at the start of the year? No. Did you expect us to beat USC this morning? No. Were you calling for Dan's head before the season? No.

So I repeat, why are you mad? Because we are going to finish with 5-6 wins just like most of you expected.

Since I expected 8 wins to start the season, I don't know much. I think I put Auburn down for 8 wins too. Missed that one too.**

 

[CoolDawg]

I completely agree. We also know that we are going to be able to win a good amount of games next year. The schedule is easier and the team should be better. It isn't going to matter who the coach is. We will probably win 8-9 games next year with Mullen. We would likely win 8-9 games if Hudspeth was coach. But if we made a change this year, the anti-Mullen crowd would have the appearance of being "right". And then we'd be right back here in 4-5 years. I like Hudspeth. If its not Mullen, I want Hudspeth. But lack of stability and quick trigger is not a recipe for success at MSU.

Why does everyone think we will win 8-9 games next year. I know that USM replaces Ok. State, so we have four creampuffs to play next year instead of three. However, it is past due for a creampuff to upset us, and I could easily see that happening next year. I also know that we play Vandy instead of South Carolina, but Vandy is a better team than we are right now and getting better. Kentucky almost beat us this year, and could very likely do so next year. We haven't beaten Arkansas this year and not sure we will, but next year Arkansas will be probably be better than they are this year. If our recruiting class doesn't improve over what it is now, I think we are more likely to be a 5 win team before we are an 8 win team.

 

[HD6]

Judging by the size of the casinos out there, they get it right a lot more than they're wrong.

 

[cheewgumm]

Knowing how we do against ranked teams, they should have known .

Once ole miss takes care if us at end if year, there will e a bunch more on board.

But I thought at the beginning of the year that we'd lose to ole miss doom not sure if that means I should accept
It. I mean the schedule does get easier next... Blah blaj

The fact that you thought a 4-3 team that has struggled all year was going to beat a top 15 6-2 team that Vegas installed as a two touchdown favorite on the road isn't Dan Mullen's fault.

 

[121Josey]

Judging by the size of the casinos out there, they get it right a lot more than they're wrong.

They do have some big casinos. I almost forgot that people went to casinos to bet and not for the gambling, shows, and buffets.