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I'll concede...the Russians stole the election from Hillary and rigged it for Trump, and Sessions made all of the arrangements through his clandestine meetings with their Ambassador.

Let's just state that as fact for the purposes of this exercise OK?

So, now that you have clearly established Russian involvement, and collusion with the Trump campaign to undermine our "pristine pure as the wind driven snow" electoral process... surely at least one of you can explain how the Russians managed to pull this off with such complete success?

I know they make good Vodka, and they were pretty good building ICBMs with mind blowing megaton throw weights, but I never really pegged them as electioneers with ability to rig votes?

Can one of you lay it out for me then how they managed to change my vote, and millions of other Americans' who otherwise would have voted for Hillary but they somehow switched our intentions to Trump?

Please let me know, so I can avoid their hijinx in the future...I don't like my vote being so easy to steal so I'd like to develop some defense mechanisms or at least be able to recognize the sham if they try it next time.

So c'mon, let's hear it from one of you on the Left making this charge...how did the Russians arrange this past election for Trump?

I'm all ears.
 
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I'll concede...the Russians stole the election from Hillary and rigged it for Trump, and Sessions made all of the arrangements through his clandestine meetings with their Ambassador.

Let's just state that as fact for the purposes of this exercise OK?

So, now that you have clearly established Russian involvement, and collusion with the Trump campaign to undermine our "pristine pure as the wind driven snow" electoral process... surely at least one of you can explain how the Russians managed to pull this off with such complete success?

I know they make good Vodka, and they were pretty good building ICMBs with mind blowing megaton throw weights, but I never really pegged them as electioneers with ability to rig votes?

Can one of you lay it out for me then how they managed to change my vote, and millions of other Americans' who otherwise would have voted for Hillary but they switched our intentions to Trump?

Please let me know, so I can avoid their hijinx in the future...I don't like my vote being so easy to steal so I'd like to develop some defense mechanisms or at least be able to recognize the sham if they try it next time.

So c'mon, let's hear it from one of you on the Left making this charge...how did the Russians arrange this past election for Trump?

I'm all ears.
You're simple problem is that you can't get passed the election.It's not about that now. It's about the reason for interference and the obvious Russian desire to have Trump in our WH. Why have they made such an effort? Money. Plain and simple.If you think it's about Making America Great again you're an idiot.
 

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I'll concede...the Russians stole the election from Hillary and rigged it for Trump, and Sessions made all of the arrangements through his clandestine meetings with their Ambassador.

Let's just state that as fact for the purposes of this exercise OK?

So, now that you have clearly established Russian involvement, and collusion with the Trump campaign to undermine our "pristine pure as the wind driven snow" electoral process... surely at least one of you can explain how the Russians managed to pull this off with such complete success?

I know they make good Vodka, and they were pretty good building ICMBs with mind blowing megaton throw weights, but I never really pegged them as electioneers with ability to rig votes?

Can one of you lay it out for me then how they managed to change my vote, and millions of other Americans' who otherwise would have voted for Hillary but they switched our intentions to Trump?

Please let me know, so I can avoid their hijinx in the future...I don't like my vote being so easy to steal so I'd like to develop some defense mechanisms or at least be able to recognize the sham if they try it next time.

So c'mon, let's hear it from one of you on the Left making this charge...how did the Russians arrange this past election for Trump?

I'm all ears.
Can't Americans be concerned about the fact the Russians interfered with the election? Forget rigging the election. Trump won the election because of his populist economic message, not the Russians. Let's move past that and focus on Russia. Do you have no issues with Russia's attempts at disrupting our election? I do. I also have a problem with most of what Russia does on the world stage. F Russia.

No go back to your leftists vs righties babble.
 

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You're simple problem is that you can't get passed the election.It's not about that now. It's about the reason for interference and the obvious Russian desire to have Trump in our WH. Why have they made such an effort? Money. Plain and simple.If you think it's about Making America Great again you're an idiot.

I agree with you Best Virginia!

I don't know how I could have been such an idiot, and end up so duped by those scurrilous Ruskies!

I'm asking for redemption and your help...I don't ever want to get punked again by them.

So please, do me a favor and help me figure out how they stole my vote for Trump? I promise I'll never let 'em do it again if you can at least inform me how they managed to pull it off in the first place?

Can you help a brother out?
 

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Can't Americans be concerned about the fact the Russians interfered with the election?

I'm with you Coop. We need to understand how the Russians tricked us so completely?

I'm concerned.

Can you lay it out for me? How did they steal all of those Hillary votes for Trump? This is very disturbing. We don't want the Russians picking our President for us!

So how did they pull this off?

We have to get to the bottom of this, and maybe get rid of Trump once we figure out that it was really Hillary who should have won if it weren't for those wascally Russians!!!!!!!!

Can you explain it for me Coop?
 

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Can't Americans be concerned about the fact the Russians interfered with the election? Forget rigging the election. Trump won the election because of his populist economic message, not the Russians. Let's move past that and focus on Russia. Do you have no issues with Russia's attempts at disrupting our election? I do. I also have a problem with most of what Russia does on the world stage. F Russia.

No go back to your leftists vs righties babble.

What Coop?

You mean you disagree with "King Obama"? The Man who single handedly walked on water, reversed the Ocean tides, prevented Global warming, and saved us from another great depression?

You disagree with him that Russia was not our biggest enemy just as Mitt Romney said back in 2012?

Obama laughed at Romney's stupidity when he (Romney) made that comment during a debate. Now you actually agree with Romney that he was right? This is what you've just posted.

I'm shocked. So tell me Coop, did you vote for Romney or agree with him back then?

http://ijr.com/2014/03/118668-remember-obama-mocking-romney-foreign-policy-question-2012-campaign/
 

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Can't Americans be concerned about the fact the Russians interfered with the election? Forget rigging the election. Trump won the election because of his populist economic message, not the Russians. Let's move past that and focus on Russia. Do you have no issues with Russia's attempts at disrupting our election? I do. I also have a problem with most of what Russia does on the world stage. F Russia.

No go back to your leftists vs righties babble.

Well that sure explained it. Thanks Coop!
 

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I'm with you Coop. We need to understand how the Russians tricked us so completely?

I'm concerned.

Can you lay it out for me? How did they steal all of those Hillary votes for Trump? This is very disturbing. We don't want the Russians picking our President for us!

So how did they pull this off?

We have to get to the bottom of this, and maybe get rid of Trump once we figure out that it was really Hillary who should have won if it weren't for those wascally Russians!!!!!!!!

Can you explain it for me Coop?
Pull what off? Please read my post again. At no time did I say anything about stealing votes or stealing the election. I specifically said Trump won with his populist economic message. However, they did try to sing the election, or at least it appears that way - hence the calls for the investigations and sanctions. Stop blurring the issue.
 

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What Coop?

You mean you disagree with "King Obama"? The Man who single handedly walked on water, reversed the Ocean tides, prevented Global warming, and saved us from another great depression?

You disagree with him that Russia was not our biggest enemy just as Mitt Romney said back in 2012?

Obama laughed at Romney's stupidity when he (Romney) made that comment during a debate. Now you actually agree with Romney that he was right? This is what you've just posted.

I'm shocked. So tell me Coop, did you vote for Romney or agree with him back then?

http://ijr.com/2014/03/118668-remember-obama-mocking-romney-foreign-policy-question-2012-campaign/
BTW - 1000% voted for Romney. Also donated $ and volunteered my time for Romney. And he was 100% right.

He should be starting his second term right now and Trump should be firing celebrities on NBC.
 

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Pull what off? Please read my post again. At no time did I say anything about stealing votes or stealing the election. I specifically said Trump won with his populist economic message. However, they did try to sing the election, or at least it appears that way - hence the calls for the investigations and sanctions. Stop blurring the issue.

I agree with you Coop. Please read my post asking you to reveal what they were up to?

Now please bring me up to your level since you have it all figured out. Explain to me how they (Russians) influenced or rigged the election in Trump's favor?

I sincerely want to know. Can you explain it to me?

Seriously. Run it for me...lay it out my Man. How did they do it? Russians meddling, interfering, or influencing the election results.

Give me the 411 Dude.
 

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BTW - 1000% voted for Romney. Also donated $ and volunteered my time for Romney. And he was 100% right.

He should be starting his second term right now and Trump should be firing celebrities on NBC.

Awesome Dude. You made the right choice then! Romney was apparently ahead of his time...you too Coop!
 

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Now please bring me up to your level since you have it all figured out. Explain to me how they (Russians) influenced or rigged the election in Trump's favor?
Where did I say they influenced or rigged the election in Trump's favor? I didn't. I said they tried. I should clarify I do not know they tried or how. That's why there will be investigations.
 

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Stop blurring the issue.

Sorry Coop. Don't know what came over me. I'll calm down.

OK....I'm breathing in through the nose now, and out through the mouth......


Now, explain it to me. "unblurr" the issue for me. Tell me how the Russians pulled it off? How did they manage to get Trump in there over Hillary? Or how did they mess this thing up for her so bad that she lost?

What did they do?
 

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Where did I say they influenced or rigged the election in Trump's favor? I didn't. I said they tried. I should clarify I do not know they tried or how. That's why there will be investigations.

OK Coop.

What were they up to? I'll accept you don't know what they apparently accomplished...fine.


What did they apparently pull off, and how did they do it? What did they mess up for Hillary, even if you don't know exactly how they did it? Apparently they were successful...doing what?
 
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I love it when an idiot tries to come off as intelligent but is so ignorant he doesn't realize how stupid he is.

This thread rocks!
 

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OK Coop.

What were they up to? I'll accept you don't know what they apparently accomplished...fine.


What did they apparently pull off, and how did they do it? What did they mess up for Hillary, even if you don't know exactly how they did it? Apparently they were successful...doing what?
I honestly have no idea how to help you out with this. Pull what off? WTF are you talking about??
 

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Do you have no issues with Russia's attempts at disrupting our election? I do.

I agree. What were they up to? Spell it out for me Coop?

they did try to sing the election, or at least it appears that way

I agree. (Trump did win) So what did they do to make that happen Coop?

Where did I say they influenced or rigged the election in Trump's favor? I didn't. I said they tried. I should clarify I do not know they tried or how. That's why there will be investigations.

I agree. So what are we investigating Coop? What exactly did the Russians do or cause to happen that would not have happened if they weren't meddling in our election?

Still waiting for you to spell it out for me. You can't open up an investigation without knowing what you're looking for.

What are we looking for Coop?
 

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I honestly have no idea how to help you out with this. Pull what off? WTF are you talking about??

Any of this you wrote Coop:

"Can't Americans be concerned about the fact the Russians interfered with the election? Forget rigging the election. Trump won the election because of his populist economic message, not the Russians. Let's move past that and focus on Russia. Do you have no issues with Russia's attempts at disrupting our election? I do. I also have a problem with most of what Russia does on the world stage. F Russia"

"At no time did I say anything about stealing votes or stealing the election. I specifically said Trump won with his populist economic message. However, they did try to sing the election, or at least it appears that way - hence the calls for the investigations and sanctions. Stop blurring the issue"

"Where did I say they influenced or rigged the election in Trump's favor? I didn't. I said they tried. I should clarify I do not know they tried or how. That's why there will be investigations".

So what are we looking for Coop? That's 'WTF' I'm talking about!

You and the Left are making this charge...so what did the Russians do to screw this up for Hillary?

(How many more times do I have to ask you?)
 

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I agree. What were they up to? Spell it out for me Coop?



I agree. (Trump did win) So what did they do to make that happen Coop?



I agree. So what are we investigating Coop? What exactly did the Russians do or cause to happen that would not have happened if they weren't meddling in our election?

Still waiting for you to spell it out for me. You can't open up an investigation without knowing what you're looking for.

What are we looking for Coop?
The investigation would be to see if they attempted to influence the election. lol. I don't know how else to say it. If someone tries to kill me and fails, I'd still like to see them punished.
 

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I love it when an idiot tries to come off as intelligent but is so ignorant he doesn't realize how stupid he is.

This thread rocks!


Huh!!!!!! countrtyroads89!!!! I'm shocked!!!!!!!!!!!!

You're admitting to this entire OT board how use amuse yourself????????

Shame on you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

(I'd be so embarrassed so advertise this to perfect strangers...what is wrong with you?)
 

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Any of this you wrote Coop:



You and the Left are making this charge...so what did the Russians do to screw this up for Hillary?

(How many more times do I have to ask you?)
I've answered it numerous times. Hillary screwed up the election for Hillary. Get past who won the election. It's over.

Now did the Russians ATTEMPT to influence the election? That's the investigation.

That one dude tried to blow up his shoes on an airplane and failed. Should we have let him walk free since he failed?
 

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The investigation would be to see if they attempted to influence the election. lol. I don't know how else to say it. If someone tries to kill me and fails, I'd still like to see them punished.

Coop, even if someone tries to kill you if the attempted murder is investigated Detectives would at least have something to investigate right?

OK Coop, so what should we investigate? What if they tried to meddle? What did they do, or try to do?

What do you mean by "meddling"? Tapping into our voting booths? Wikileaks? Planting those e-mails into Podesta's "inbox"? Faking those Veritas videos revealing how Democrats were hiring "disruptors" to crash Trump campaign rallies? Posting false questions into CNN to feed to Hillary? Preventing Hillary from installing flight plans into Michigan or Wisconsin (which she never visited near the end of the campaign?) paying Trump crowds at his overflow rallies? Maybe bribing FBI Director Comey to report on Hillary's e-mail investigation being reopened? Maybe they stole the IP addresses to the Democrat National Committee computers so they could hack them?

What were those Russians up to, and how did they pull this thing off?
 
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Now did the Russians ATTEMPT to influence the election? That's the investigation.

Attempt what Coop? Influence it how?

Coop...if you go hunting do you know what you're hunting for?

If you fish, do you cast your line into empty waters?

If you try to climb a Mountain, isn't a Mountain there to climb?

So you want to see an investigation opened up into if Russians attempted to influence the election?

How?

What are we looking (hunting) for?
 
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Attempt what Coop? Influence it how?

Coop...if you go hunting do you know what you're hunting for?

If you fish, do you cast your line into empty waters?

If you try to climb a Mountain, isn't a Mountain there to climb?

So you want to see an investigation opened up into if Russians attempted to influence the election?

How?

What are we looking for (hunting?)


You continually look like an *** but have no shame.

I love it.
 

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Pull what off? Please read my post again. At no time did I say anything about stealing votes or stealing the election. I specifically said Trump won with his populist economic message. However, they did try to sing the election, or at least it appears that way - hence the calls for the investigations and sanctions. Stop blurring the issue.

And this is new? The Russians try to influence elections all over the world. They are now involved in France, for example. They have done this for years.
They apparently hacked the DNC and Podesta. They did NOT hack voting machines. They did NOT change votes. And frankly, the hacked emails made the DNC, Podesta and the media collusion with them look silly, but did not sway the election.

Did Obama try and sway the Israeli election? Has the U.S. government ever tried to sway an election. We should have been prepared for this because we and others do this all the time.

Now, the NY Times comes out with a report that the Obama team purposefully sabotaged the Trump team by leaving behind information to be leaked. I wonder if Bush did the same to Obama?
 

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You continually look like an *** but have no shame.

I love it.


hey countryroads89 since you're so smart and have proven your obvious intellect to us all in the past, can you help me figure out what the Russians were up to?

What should we be investigating about them since we all now know they managed to influence the election results because we also do know that Trump did win and he wasn't supposed to.

So how did they make that happen? What is it they did or what are we checking for that either they did or tried to do to pull this thing off?

We do know they were successful at whatever it was they were up to. (Trump won)

So, what were they up to? What did they try to do? How did they do it?
 

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Coop, even if someone tries to kill you if the attempted murder is investigated Detectives would at least have something to investigate right?

OK Coop, so what should we investigate? What if they tried to meddle? What did they do, or try to do?

What do you mean by "meddling"? Tapping into our voting booths? Wikileaks? Planting those e-mails into Podesta's "inbox"? Faking those Veritas videos revealing how Democrats were hiring "disruptors" to crash Trump campaign rallies? Posting false questions into CNN to feed to Hillary? Preventing Hillary from installing flight plans into Michigan or Wisconsin (which she never visited near the end of the campaign?) paying Trump crowds at his overflow rallies? Maybe bribing FBI Director Comey to report on the e-mail investigation being reopened? Maybe they stole the IP addresses to the Democrat National Committee computers so they could hack them?

What were those Russians up to, and how did they pull this thing off?
Hacking and fake news bots are the 2 most public. There are reports from the intell community that Russia attempted to influence our election, so maybe we should be asking them? In an investigation?? Maybe it all adds up to nothing. Let's find out.
 

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Hacking and fake news bots are the 2 most public. There are reports from the intell community that Russia attempted to influence our election, so maybe we should be asking them? In an investigation?? Maybe it all adds up to nothing. Let's find out.

OK fair enough Coop. So let's just say they (Russians) did hack the DNC servers. What did they find that was so damaging to Hillary that forced her to loose the election?

I'm giving you this argument still waiting for you to explain how the Russians accomplished whatever it was they were up to?

So, what did they do with the information if they hacked the DNC servers, and how did that harm Hillary's chances or screw with the election results?
 

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OK fair enough Coop. So let's just say they (Russians) did hack the DNC servers. What did they find that was so damaging to Hillary that forced her to loose the election?

I'm giving you this argument still waiting for you to explain how the Russians accomplished whatever it was they were up to?

So, what did they do with the information if they hacked the DNC servers, and how did that harm Hillary's chances or screw with the election results?
lmao. I give up. It's the intent, not the results. Good luck.
 

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That one dude tried to blow up his shoes on an airplane and failed. Should we have let him walk free since he failed?

No Coop but at least we knew what he was up to!

What were the Russians up to? Really we should be asking what is it they did since Trump won?

Isn't that the reason we should even investigate? Trump won, he wasn't supposed to, and he won because Russians influenced or tampered with the election.

It wasn't a level playing field, the Russians cheated for Trump and that's the reason Hillary lost.

So how did the Russians pull that off?
 

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lmao. I give up. It's the intent, not the results. Good luck.

Since their intent was to have Trump win it should be easy to investigate what they did to achieve the results they sought.

What was that?
 

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mao. I give up. It's the intent, not the results. Good luck.

No don't give up Coop, explain it! Expose the scam the Russians pulled off. Intent or otherwise explain to me how they impacted our election?

It's an easy case to prove, Trump won. How?
 

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Shocking revelation the Russians try to influence elections. It is disgusting that Obame meddled in elections.
 

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For the rest of you reading this ridiculous thread I hope you can see the reason countryroads89 & Coop cannot explain what the Russians were up to or how they managed to influence the election is because they can't.

They can't because there is no proof, and there is no proof because it did not happen. They (Russians) did not change the election results, or influence Americans to somehow change their votes away from Hillary in favor of Trump.

All of the rest of this is simply the Left grasping at straws to try and create an issue where there is none. If there was collusion between the Russians and Trump campaign officials it should not only be easy to prove, but prosecute. If it's that's obvious, these posters who allege such activity should easily be able to point it out or at least prove it.

They cannot. I simply wanted to illustrate that, and if you read this thread it should be obvious why they cannot answer the very simple questions I've asked with facts and/or data which they insist be "investigated". So they favor an investigation, yet they cannot outline or detail what it is we should be investigating?

"We need to investigate if they tampered with the election", "since they did, we need to investigate if they did?" "It's the intent, not the results". All spurious arguments offered throughout this thread as an explanation.

If that's not the biggest bunch of discombobulated schizophrenic gobbledygook you've ever read, I don't know what qualifies?

Investigate if there is any evidence when there should be but doesn't exist?

Right.