tobias singleton

[jzahner1]

What's the word on Tobias Singleton and what's the odds on the other recruits. Any chance we talk to the 4 star bear traitors?

 

[jzahner1]

What's the word on Tobias Singleton and what's the odds on the other recruits. Any chance we talk to the 4 star bear traitors?

 

[Todd4State]

I don't think much has changed with him. I also think we will probably keep Brassell, Whitehead, and Morrow. I think we will probably get PJ Jones and Leon Mackey as well. We might get Lauren Jackson from Meridian, and a running back- probably Milton, I guess. Finally, I believe we are looking for another o-lineman. I know we're going hard after Aaron Morris, but if we don't get him to flip, we'll probably go after Milton teammate Fred Ruff, who is also an o-lineman.

My personal opinion is we will probably also go after another misc. player but I'm not sure who or what position.

 

[jzahner1]

Can we not recruit a mule kicker. Field position hurt us all year. I would like to see someone kick it through the endzone everytime. That would be worth a scholly.

 

[Todd4State]

I would suspect that all kickers are going to be invited walk-ons or walk-ons from here on out. A lot of schools do that, by the way. One good thing about it is it prevents us from being stuck with a crappy kicker like John Micheal Marlin or a guy like Blake McAdams and feel like we have to stick with them because we gave them a scholarship. I would guess that the kickers probably get scholarships if they win the job.

 

[TheStateUofMS]

Here's my odds:<div>Singleton 65%</div><div>Brassell 85%</div><div>Whitehead 90%</div><div>A. Moris 50%</div><div>P.J. Jones 80%</div><div>Mackey 50%</div><div>CJ Johnson 100%</div><div>Dee Arrington 100%</div>

 

[Todd4State]

Here's my odds:<div>Singleton 65%</div><div>Brassell 85%</div><div>Whitehead 90%</div><div>A. Moris 50%</div><div>P.J. Jones 80%</div><div>Mackey 50%</div><div>CJ Johnson 100%</div><div>Dee Arrington 100%</div>

Singleton and Mackey awfully low.

You may not have known this when you did those percentages, but there is a very good chance that Lloyd Allen gets his scholarship pulled.

 

[captaindawg]

Allen. I understand that he may be looking at a C-USA level school now that he can't make it to school for spring ball. I'd still like to get John Jenkins, the big defensive tackle from GCCC. I hate that we lost out on the two JC linemen Peacock and Douglas that committed to Arkansas and Alabama respectively.

 

[Dan Druff]

Here's my odds:
<div>Singleton 65%</div><div>Brassell 85%</div><div>Whitehead 90%</div><div>A. Moris 50%</div><div>P.J. Jones 80%</div><div>Mackey 50%</div><div>CJ Johnson 100%</div><div>Dee Arrington 100%</div>

Disagree with a few...

Singleton 90% - He's known where he's going for a while and it's not OM
Brassell 50% - see below
Whitehead 95% -has a HUGE ego and is enjoying getting love fromall these schoolsbut he'll be bulldog
Morris - 20% - saw him in the grove at egg bowl and for somereason he loves it.
PJ Jones 80%
Mackey - 90% - Loves state andis best boys withDee Bost
CJ - 100%
Dee - 100%

On Brasell, I understand he's "committed" to us but does anyone really get the feeling he loves State and wants to be a bulldog? A buddy of mineis a writerandcovers Mississippi HighSchool Football (not telling you who it is, whatnewspaper/magazine/website so don't ask), he swears that Brassell will be aRebel.He just says that OM is wherehis heart is andhe (Brassell)has told afew of the Rebelcommits the same thing.

 

[maroonmania]

if his "heart is at Ole Miss" then why put up with the crap he is currently putting up with in Batesville by committing to State? Why not go ahead and commit to the Bears and help out their class that's falling apart? Is he suppose to be running some ploy because he thinks we won't give his buddy Market a scholarship if he doesn't come along? I certainly have no inside info on the situation but what you are saying makes little to no sense looking at it from the outside.

 

[TBonewannabe]

I doubt that Brassell is leading the DawgPound Rock but his heart is really at UM. Like you said, everyone knows he is getting a lot of pressure to go to UM but he hasn't even talked about waivering.

 

[jzahner1]

Well I really wish that brasell chooses state. I believe he would fit our system well and ole miss seems like they are going to terrible for years to come. Not to mention we are on the rise, our fan base is very energized, and Dan Mullen will get him ready for the next level. Singleton is in the same situation. Taking all the hate I have for Ole Miss out of the equation, and look at the current situations of the two programs, STATE is primed to do something for the next 4 years

 

[patdog]

Rivals shows him with 2 offers, MSU and UM.</p>

 

[DirtyLopez]

Brassell. Maybe they are right and players from S.P. don't have much choice in where they go. Problem is, he has no idea who his coach at olemiss will be after next season. Objectively speaking, the only reason to go there is if you are a lifelong fan (which he apparently isn't) or in the famous words of Cam "the money was just too good". He will play early at either school, so that isn't really a factor. All I know is that recruiting makes very little sense.

 

[stevo1a]

I hope Market has a better collegiate career than Brassell no matter where either of them sign. This rumor makes him sound like some weak little sister who can't fend for himself while "Snoop" (how ghey is that?) is the valiant big brother snickering about duping the idiot hicks in Starkville. All the while, Paul on BDJ has been saying Market is the better player straight up, not against the spread. What I mean by that is not more underrated for his star ranking, but a better prospect and player.

Guess we will see in a couple of weeks at the Army AA game when "Snoop" and "Bias" put on their hats of choice. Actually, Rebtards will be clutching to this hope until signing day much the same way that our moron fans clung to hope that PatPat would swing back to MSU on signing day last year. Or whatever damn year it was.

Personally, I think the whole rumor is junk based on the alleged persecution "Snoop" is putting up with in Batesville. I find that to be garbage as well.

Ah, crootin' drama. Love it. And by love it I mean I hate myself for paying attention.

 

[patdog]

I agree that "Snoop" is ghey as hell. A huge Bear fan at work calls him Snoop like they're personal friends or something. I haven't read what Paul Jones wrote, but from what I've seen from watching South Panola play on TV the last 2-3 years, I really like Market a lot. I know he's a 2* and doesn't have hardly any offers, but he just looks likea good player to me. That said, I like Brassel a lot too and I'm not sure I'd go quite so far as to say Market is the better player.

 

[DirtyLopez]

rebel fans refering to him like they are personal friends is ghey. the nickname isn't gay. damn

 

[RebelBruiser]

Recruiting is all about relationships when you get right down to it with most players.

It's the SEC, so sure there are often incentives too, but ultimately it's all about coaches, because the incentives are typically similar at most places. Other factors play a role, like being close to home, how they feel at the school, how much that school has won recently, what the depth chart looks like, what style they play, all that, but in many cases it's mainly about which coach they feel the closest to, and by that I mean which assistant/recruiter they have the closest bond with.

Marcus Mayers, for instance, really seems to want to play for Tyrone Nix. I'd bet that if we fired Nix he would re-open his recruitment, and I am very confident that he will finish his career playing for another defense.

The kicker in all of this is that I'm pretty confident that any member of the 2011 signing class that signs with either Ole Miss or MSU will be having his senior day with a different staff. So ultimately players make a heavy part of their decision based on the thing that's most likely to change at some point during their tenure at school.

If you want to spend all 4 years of your tenure with one coach, your best bet these days is to sign with a school whose coach was just newly hired.

Here is your 2011 list of SEC coaches:
Florida - Muschamp
Tennessee - Dooley
Georgia - Richt
South Carolina - Spurrier
Kentucky - Phillips
Vanderbilt - likely Franklin
Alabama - Saban
LSU - Miles
Auburn - Chizik
Arkansas - Petrino
Ole Miss - Nutt
MSU - Mullen

Here is the 2006 list of SEC coaches:
Florida - Meyer
Tennessee - Fulmer
Georgia - Richt
South Carolina - Spurrier
Kentucky - Brooks
Vanderbilt - Johnson
Alabama - Shula
LSU - Miles
Auburn - Tuberville
Arkansas - Nutt
Ole Miss - Orgeron
MSU - Croom

The 2006 list is the group of people who recruited the 2007 signing class for most of the year and developed those relationships. Those from that class that redshirted will be going through their senior year this fall. At 9 of the 12 SEC schools, those seniors will be going through senior day with a different head coach. At 2 of those 9 schools, those seniors are going to be celebrating senior day with the 3rd head coach of their college career. That's just looking at the head coaches. If you look at the assistant staff, I'm sure the turnover is even more.

Yet, the coaching staff is one of the main reasons, if not the main reason, why most players choose their specific school.

 

[MedDawg]

Guess we will see in a couple of weeks at the Army AA game when "Snoop" and "Bias" put on their hats of choice.

That would be awesome at the Army AA gameto see CJ andBrassellalongside Singleton when Tobias puts on a Mississippi Statehat. Cann't see any of them changing away from MSU after doing that on national TV.

 

[Requiem For A Dawg]

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[StarkContrast]

http://recruiting.scout.com/a.z?s=73&p=8&c=1&nid=5296268

a friend showed me this kid and he has a TON of potential and as a junior this year well over half his kicks were touchbacks and he will only get better
his dad played at state(WR i think) and from what ive heard we are the only ones on his radar he was also a good reciever, i think this is the same school UMiss kick ridder is from and he is really good

 

[Todd4State]

about Brassell. When you are in Rome, you have to do as the Romans, or in this case say whatever you need to to please the Romans.

Think about it for a minute- you've got all of this pressure to go to a particular school from the community. What's the best way to alleviate that pressure? Tell the community what they want to hear.

Sure, there will be inevitable pressure on signing day, but if I were him, I would take a couple of days off from school, and come back the Monday after things have died down a little bit. After NSD, he only has to deal with the people in his community for about 3-4 more months and then he never has to deal with them ever again.

 

[wbc40]

To the rescue!

 

[Dan Druff]

if his "heart is at Ole Miss" then why put up with the crap he is currently putting up with in Batesville by committing to State? Why not go ahead and commit to the Bears and help out their class that's falling apart? Is he suppose to be running some ploy because he thinks we won't give his buddy Market a scholarship if he doesn't come along? I certainly have no inside info on the situation but what you are saying makes little to no sense looking at it from the outside.

Let's think about this. Your best friend wants to go to State and is begging for an offer but 3 months from Signing Day nobody is looking at him. Dan calls talking about getting both of you up to State. You get excited and you (Brassell) and your friend (Market) commit on the spot. The next day you realize that your a stud and don't want to lock down your recruitment because you know you haven't exhausted the situation fully $$$$$. So the nextday you flake on your commitment untilsomeone drops large bags of cashonyour front doorstep to stay firm to MSU.

I mean hell, after the MS/AL all-star game he told some rivals or scout guy that his recruitment is wide open....sounds promising

I'm not saying for sure this happened but have had several people tell me its a rough sketch of what happened, and hell that was 3 months ago. Lord knows what's gone on since then. Honestly guys yall are crazyif you think State and Ole Miss (and Bama from what i've heard)aren'tthrowing anything and everything atBrassell

With that being said....if I see Brassell, CJ, and Tobias all laughing it up at theArmy AAGame withbulldog hats on, Iwill be ecstatic

 

[Chesusdog]

DirtyLopez wrote: Objectively speaking, the only reason to go there is if you are a lifelong fan (which he apparently isn't) or in the famous words of Cam "the money was just too good".

I believe that the money was "too much."

 

[smootness]

If you think State, Ole Miss, and Alabama are all throwing money at Nick Brassell, you're crazy.

 

[independencebowlmainstay]

Not going to get into a pissing match, but do you guys really think you are that much of a lock to get Brassell, Singleton, and Whitehead? Seriously?

 

[J-Dawg]

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