Tommy "injury"

.NUdynasty

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So if T.A.s injury has him in a boot for several days and fails to practice does he get the start or come in the game if new starter struggles?.
Seems like this could on paper be a game he could sit out and heal for M.State.

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otismotis08

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If his injury will limit his mobility, he should sit. Scrambling is his strength. Hope he's back to full strength soon.
 

otismotis08

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It will be very interesting to see what happens at that position come Saturday if TA isn't healthy enough to go. As much as I'd like to see somebody else get a shot there, this may be one of those "be careful what you wish for" kind of things.

Would never wish for an injury to our starting QB. If he's not 100%, and given where we are with this season, I say we play the next man up.
 

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I agree this is a Must Win game for sure.
But I would rather see a healthy TA against MS than him playing against Purdue and aggravating it to where he might be out longer.

Hopefully it's nothing. But wearing a boot is definitely something.
 

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the fact that even with limited mobility TA is still our best QB speaks volumes about the lack of depth behind him

either Bush or Darlington (or both) need to move on .... Bush is 6-3 220 - maybe he can play LB or DE
we need to take a scholly QB, a JUCO and a preferred walkon this year

Fife can hold down the backup role if needed
 

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It will be very interesting to see what happens at that position come Saturday if TA isn't healthy enough to go. As much as I'd like to see somebody else get a shot there, this may be one of those "be careful what you wish for" kind of things.
I hate to see TA hurt, but things can't get a whole lot worse at this point. A new look with a new QB might be what this team needs. Rileys offense is not geared towards a run first qb.
 

huskerbux

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Would never wish for an injury to our starting QB. If he's not 100%, and given where we are with this season, I say we play the next man up.
I doubt Lite is wishing for an injury......the wish is for another QB to get some playing time just to see if its a spark - hence the be careful part. Purdue becomes a real questionable win IMO if Tommy can't play.
 
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As somebody who's been injured going on several years now, bux is correct. I would never wish injury on anyone, and I mean anyone. I am not sure kcu5 meant that he thought I was hoping for it, but I understand how somebody could get to that conclusion based on my sentence, but I can promise everyone I hope TA is healthy sooner rather than later and may the best man play.
 

jeans15

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What 2 games did TA cost us on his own. Especially since every game he gave us the lead or brought us back for a chance to win? Miami? The game he scrapped the game plan and brought us back on his own?

Basically blaming Tommy cause our defense sucks. And is the worst pass defense in college football. Get some stops on defense and we are at least 7-1

This is gonna be a good one.
 
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TA caused loses by his interceptions. If he had no bad turnovers and a 65% completion percentage we win
 

c2o

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Is he walking in the walking boot or is he riding around in a golf cart while wearing a walking boot?
If he's walking in it he should start.
 
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GimmeRed

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TA caused loses by his interceptions. If he had no bad turnovers and a 65% completion percentage we win
That pick 6 last week was one that was for sure.

As far as 65% I don't know how you could reasonably expect that. A little improvement from last year maybe but not 65%. His regression from last year with the new quarterback coach is surprising though.
 

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That pick 6 last week was one that was for sure.

As far as 65% I don't know how you could reasonably expect that. A little improvement from last year maybe but not 65%. His regression from last year with the new quarterback coach is surprising though.
I get the whole percentage thing, and I'm being serious here... Do other team's receivers drop as many balls as we do? That alone increases his percentage significantly (although not to 65%)...
 

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That pick 6 last week was one that was for sure.

As far as 65% I don't know how you could reasonably expect that. A little improvement from last year maybe but not 65%. His regression from last year with the new quarterback coach is surprising though.

You think TA has regressed in the passing game? I would say he's improved (still not good) but has regressed as a runner because of the scheme change.
 

GimmeRed

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I get the whole percentage thing, and I'm being serious here... Do other team's receivers drop as many balls as we do? That alone increases his percentage significantly (although not to 65%)...
Probably every team go through that at some point. It's just a lot more fun when it's your opponent that day. We had a lot of drops at times last year too, probably evens it out.
I'm not one that blames Tommy for any loss though. It has been a team effort most of the time.
 

GimmeRed

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You think TA has regressed in the passing game? I would say he's improved (still not good) but has regressed as a runner because of the scheme change.
His completion percentage has come up .2% from 53.3 to 53.5, but his QB rating have dropped. He also still hasn't face a great defense yet. He still panics at times and still throws off his back foot and falling away.
I'd love to see where you think he has improved.
 
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huskerfan830

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His best asset isn't being utilized and his Oline is just hot garbage this year, so yeah, he might appear to struggle at times. That happens when the D knows you can't run to save your Mama's life and chuck the ball 50 times.
 

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More yards, more TD's and overall better passing than last year. He has to do a lot more than hit home runs off play action fakes to an all-American this year. Again, he is still not good but I don't see how you can state he's regressed like its a fact.
 

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More yards, more TD's and overall better passing than last year. He has to do a lot more than hit home runs off play action fakes to an all-American this year. Again, he is still not good but I don't see how you can state he's regressed like its a fact.
Fewer yards per attempt, fewer TDs per attempt. I just don't see that he is a better passer. His stats alone shows he has regressed. One would expect some improvement base on a year of maturity even without the QB coaching improvement.
 

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If Tommy can't go on Saturday, every thick headed poster who holds him primarily accountable for our 3-5 record is in for a rude awakening.
I don't know, maybe it's a good thing if the coaches think backup can't throw and it forces them to run?
 

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I agree this is a Must Win game for sure.
But I would rather see a healthy TA against MS than him playing against Purdue and aggravating it to where he might be out longer.

Hopefully it's nothing. But wearing a boot is definitely something.
A must win game? There aren't any of those left, except for bragging rights if we can upset Iowa. The coaches need to put the pedal to the metal in recruiting and they are likely going to have plenty of time in December.
 
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Fewer yards per attempt, fewer TDs per attempt. I just don't see that he is a better passer. His stats alone shows he has regressed. One would expect some improvement base on a year of maturity even without the QB coaching improvement.

I guess we'll just have to disagree, because I don't believe those stats show regression. Yards and TD's per attempt? He's asked to do a lot more this year without AA. And I think it's clear he has improved throwing the ball, but will never be a prototypical pocket passer.
 

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Must win game as far as chances at going to a bowl game....and yes I want them in a bowl game. Too many upsides to being in one
 

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I'm hearing he has turf toe......friends son goes to NU. That's what he heard today from several players. Fwiw.
I hope it's not because that's a nagging injury
 

Tuco Ramirez

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TA caused loses by his interceptions. If he had no bad turnovers and a 65% completion percentage we win

There are very few turnovers that aren't "bad." There are zero quarterbacks who have no bad turnovers. To say the loss is on a quarterback because he threw an interception is ridiculous. If you chuck it 35 times a game, he will have some turnovers. He is averaging less than one pick per game. No, he isn't making good decisions, but fortunately he has gotten away with many bad decisions. No, he's not the QB Langsdorf wants for his system, but that quarterback isn't sitting on the bench either. You can either take the bad with the good (and there is plenty of good with Tommy), or you can sit around and ***** about it not being 1995 anymore.
 

donahues17

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Nebraska's offensive points scored output is on the coaching staff. They are getting yards but are not converting. They are wanting Tommy to stay in the pocket as long as possible. His footwork is still terrible as he does not have good balance and routinely throws off his back foot. If they would tell him to start taking a rush lane and scramble (boy did NW slam us on that), this team would have 3 more wins minimum. But this staff is showing how stubborn it is. You can't take a running QB and have him throw the ball 40+ times per game. It just does not work. I do however think that they could have had Tommy sit for a couple series after the pick 6 to let him calm down and see what they were doing.

I don't know if we will be better off with or without Tommy until Fyfe has been given the opportunity to show everyone what he has. But from the video shown in the article, it seems that players are not too concerned. It is a common theme that it don't matter who throws the ball, they have to catch it.

Someone mentioned the drops by the receivers. Some are in the belief that if a ball hits your hand you should catch it. I don't believe that as many balls are very bad throws that a receiver makes a great play to attempt to catch it but just can't.
 

tro80

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RF clearly isn't as good an athlete as TA, but he is a better passer (stronger arm and much better mechanics). Whether he has the experience at this time to make the right reads or the ability to dodge the DLine, and blitzing LBs and CBs who will undoubtedly be coming after him if he plays - we will see. Might get a glimpse of what the offense could do if they get a quarterback in here to run their kind of offense or it might be a disaster. Fortunately, its Purdue. Probably best if we don't have to find out, however.
 

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I'm not sure Fyfe has a stronger arm, but he probably does see the field better, and his short to intermediate game is probably better. I have no doubt Fyfe throws a better screen pass.

I too would like to see how Fyfe looks in some extended playing time.

If anything, Fyfe just might move the offense more consistently.

With Tommy, it's been very disjointed under the new offense, and I think while Fyfe may not have as much big play potential as Tommy has, he may also not put us in as many bad positions and make it easier to just systematically grind out 3-5 yards a play and move down the field. We saw him do exactly that at Iowa & Michigan State last year.

The other thing about it, is it will force defenses to loosen up on loading the box so much, which should help make our run game go easier.