Tomorrow (Monday), the NCAA will decide how to fill extra bowl spots

RU1977

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I hope we win on Saturday and I hope they do get to go to a bowl game. We're not playing Lehigh and Colgate anymore..... I'd rather see us play the tough teams, hoping that eventually we will be able to compete with them rather than watching a nail-biter against Lehigh anyday.....
 
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Blitz8RU

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We are not worthy!
 
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seels2662

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If the rumors about how they will decide 5-7 bowl teams is true, we are almost 100% guaranteed a bowl at 5-7.
 

megadrone

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at this point, take a deserving FCS team. It's just an exhibition and decent infusion of cash. A good FCS team vs. the Sun Belt or C-USA top school wouldn't be a bad game either. My $0.02
 
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AreYouNUTS

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I hope we win on Saturday and I hope they do get to go to a bowl game. We're not playing Lehigh and Colgate anymore..... I'd rather see us play the tough teams, hoping that eventually we will be able to compete with them rather than watching a nail-biter against Lehigh anyday.....

No, we're not playing Lehigh or Colgate - THANK GOD - but check out who we will have beaten to get our 4 FBS-level wins this year if we finish 5-7:

Kansas 0-12
Indiana 5-7 or 6-6
Army 2-10
Maryland 2-10

...so, yeah, there's that.
 
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DHajekRC84

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No, we're not playing Lehigh or Colgate - THANK GOD - but check out who we will have beaten to get our 4 FBS-level wins this year if we finish 5-7:

Kansas 0-12
Indiana 5-7 or 6-6
Army 2-10
Maryland 2-10

...so, yeah, there's that.

hey, not fair! Maryland would have been 2-9 at the time! you're exaggerating the stats to make your point.. [laughing]
 

Blitz8RU

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Been said here a few times, but I don't want the fools that want the coach retained to have any additional ammo for their argument.
That's why i'm rooting for MD to win. Same reason I was rooting for USF to win in 2013.
 

vkj91

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No, we're not playing Lehigh or Colgate - THANK GOD - but check out who we will have beaten to get our 4 FBS-level wins this year if we finish 5-7:

Kansas 0-12
Indiana 5-7 or 6-6
Army 2-10
Maryland 2-10

...so, yeah, there's that.
and If IU wins this weekend their 6 wins will be against
1AA
FIU
Western Kentucky
Wake Forest
Maryland
Purdue

We are not a good football team but either are a lot of 6-6 or even 7-5 teams when you actually look at who they played. I find this argument no different then the one about there being to many bowls. It's college football and it's almost over.....the more games the better.
 

DHajekRC84

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Only way I go is IF it is local and IF they name rettig the starter and say they won't pull him. I'll make a trip to the Armed Forces Bowl or Army-Navy game before spending large coin to go watch this train wreck lead by conductor Fludd.

I would feel bad for the players but we've had MANY MANY more deserving teams not get invited with much better winning records.

Not my call of course .
 

brista21

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God forbid they do the RIGHT thing and just do away with a dozen or so bowl games that nobody cares about.
Agreed. FBS is at 128 teams right now, give or take. If we moved from 42 bowl games to say 25 would it be such a bad thing? At 25 we'd have arguably the Top 50 teams bowling and all or almost all would be above .500 heading into the game. I'd also bring back the 7-5 rule to go bowling in that scenario. Allow a 6-6 team in to fill its own conference's slot only if no 7-5 teams from other conferences/independents were available to fill it.
 
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RU1977

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So will the team know anything about a possible bowl before this weekend's game?
 

RUbot

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No, we're not playing Lehigh or Colgate - THANK GOD - but check out who we will have beaten to get our 4 FBS-level wins this year if we finish 5-7:

Kansas 0-12
Indiana 5-7 or 6-6
Army 2-10
Maryland 2-10

...so, yeah, there's that.

And since some posters will continually focus on the negative ( I thought home team message boards inflated their teams worth)... I'll provide you with the optimistic view that a bowl rep would also need to consider. Apparently our resume would be a little more appealing than some may think considering RU's games against a potential college football playoff team (#6 MSU) and another top twenty team (#20 WSU) both were undecided until the final minute of the game and could each easily been W's for RU .. and that was even before our rash of injuries.
 

AreYouNUTS

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And since some posters will continually focus on the negative ( I thought home team message boards inflated their teams worth)... I'll provide you with the optimistic view that a bowl rep would also need to consider. Apparently our resume would be a little more appealing than some may think considering RU's games against a potential college football playoff team (#6 MSU) and another top twenty team (#20 WSU) both were undecided until the final minute of the game and could each easily been W's for RU .. and that was even before our rash of injuries.

Okay Mrs Flood

..and before you respond, MSU has been DECIMATED by injuries this year and, if we played them today would beat us by 50 (Wazzou would beat us by 30...).
 

derleider

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It's another rutgers game to watch before the offseason. Why not?
Because a) it will be against a junk opponent where losing will get us bad attention, but winning will get us nothing and b) it might be used as an excuse to keep our underperforming coach.

Additionaly practice. LOL. No - its about the money. The extra practice is a nice excuse to justify losing money. Its conveniently self-serving that coaches get to preach that more time with coaches is exactly what the kids need and that next year is riding on it.

Thats especially true this year when we will either have a new coach, or the same coach who would be much better off just warpping it up and using the lack of a bowl as motivation for next year rather than hoping that a handful of practices 9 months out will make a lickspittle of difference.

As for whether a bowl will take us - yes - we are still a big market team in a major conference. If you lok at our record - we do just fine against the type of 6-6 junk conference team we are likely to face. In other words - all 5-7 teams have flaws - its mostly about the name brand (so Nebraska, Texas, VT, Missouri will be ahead of us but not Illinois or Indiana for example.)
 

RUbot

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And for all those "fans" rooting for a loss against MD, or not supporting our team from the stands this weekend.....

Doesn't every college coach continually preach about the value of the added practice time a bowl affords you. And wouldn't it even be more valuable to a young team like Rutgers to improve our chances of improvement for 2016? Do you really want to do our kids this disservice? Why would anyone root against this opportunity or stay away and give our team less of a home field advantage.
 

derleider

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People actually think we have a chance Saturday? lolz.
Rutgers 55, Indiana 52 @ Indiana
Indiana 47, Maryland 28 @ Maryland

Yes - we have a chance. IN fact we should be favored (our performance against good teams seems to have almost no bearing on our performance against bad ones - for example PSU vs Army vs RU vs Army). MD is bad. Very bad. We have much more than a chance. Its doesnt make you a bad fan to admit it.
 
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rube1859

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As long as we aren't one of the 5-7 teams. You know we will travel horribly for this team. I'd rather not go than have no fans there.
 

Mikemarc

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If a fan is so short-sighted that they think one meaningless game has an effect, they should be rooting for a completely new administration instead of a new coach.
 

Skull83

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In what kind of a world do fans root against the kids on their team, particularly the seniors, getting to play another game and have the experience of a bowl trip? How can anyone actually root for their team to lose a game? Forget about the coaches, don't people car about the kids on the team? It is mind-boggling what a cesspool this board has become.
 

AreYouNUTS

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In what kind of a world do fans root against the kids on their team, particularly the seniors, getting to play another game and have the experience of a bowl trip? How can anyone actually root for their team to lose a game? Forget about the coaches, don't people car about the kids on the team? It is mind-boggling what a cesspool this board has become.

Well there are 2 things going on here:

- some have stated they want us to lose, period, and I agree that's a tough pill to swallow and would never "root" against us

- others, like myself, simply don't believe ANY team has "earned" the right/privilege, of a bowl game and 2 extra weeks of practice, by winning 4 games against other FBS programs.

IMHO there is a BIG difference between the two.
 

mildone_rivals

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You do understand bowl games are about money and only money?
This.

I don't understand why people can't grasp this simple truth. More bowl games has nothing to do with participation awards (which I hate). It's all about generating more revenue.
 

RUScrew85

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Wrong. It's also about the additional practice time for the team, particularly the kids who will see more playing time in 2016

I was referring to the reason they are held - not the list of benefits to the teams.
 

derleider

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at this point, take a deserving FCS team. It's just an exhibition and decent infusion of cash. A good FCS team vs. the Sun Belt or C-USA top school wouldn't be a bad game either. My $0.02
Actually I love this idea.
In what kind of a world do fans root against the kids on their team, particularly the seniors, getting to play another game and have the experience of a bowl trip? How can anyone actually root for their team to lose a game? Forget about the coaches, don't people car about the kids on the team? It is mind-boggling what a cesspool this board has become.
In that case - we really should have 64 bowl games - one for each team.

Im rooting for the team to lose because i think it enhances the chance that our administration fires out inept HC. Maybe if we were at a different school, and I could have faith that they wouldn't get cold feet or use the win as an excuse to be cheapskates, I wouldnt have to. But we arent and so I will. If the end result of having a higher percentage chance of fast forwarding the process by a year is that kids who have already been to three or four bowls dont get another, then so be it.

now, if you could guarantee that Flood would be gone regardless, then sure, I would have no problem with the team winning. But no one is making that guarentee and the reports of the absurd demands of our donors make me thing we are in for a 2013 redux if they win on Saturday and espeically if they get selected to a bowl.