Topic from twitter - would it be worth it...

dawgstudent

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To schedule an away game only with Notre Dame? Or do we have to have a return game.
 

Original48

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Yes..if in return we get 10 years of OOC home games with directional schools.

And an occasional away with Tulane.
 

Shamoan

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yes. like it or not, they are one of the most historic programs in the nation. its a brand thing not a university/competition thing. beating some irish *** on national tv would be epic. great exposure. i truly salivate at getting a shot at certain teams and notre dame is one of those teams, plus it would be a great experience for the team. group pics in front of touchdown Jesus would be awesome. the best part about playing notre dame would be the trip to south bend and immersing the team in that environment. maybe down the road, that would bridge a later home-and-home in the near or far future.
 

Lachien

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I don't know if it makes sense, but

To schedule an away game only with Notre Dame? Or do we have to have a return game.

I would fully support it. Having been to South Bend I would return in a heartbeat. Great game day experience.

Our team would need to treat it like ECU did a few years back: don't get caught up in the pageantry. Get in, get the win, get out.

I think a win is very doable there.
 

FreeDawg

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yes. like it or not, they are one of the most historic programs in the nation. its a brand thing not a university/competition thing. beating some irish *** on national tv would be epic. great exposure. i truly salivate at getting a shot at certain teams and notre dame is one of those teams, plus it would be a great experience for the team. group pics in front of touchdown Jesus would be awesome. the best part about playing notre dame would be the trip to south bend and immersing the team in that environment. maybe down the road, that would bridge a later home-and-home in the near or far future.

I'm in agreement with this. Even though Strick said we aren't interested in a away only, I would sign that with ND in a heartbeat. Like it or not, the national media has a love affair with ND from coast to coast. Just playing ND would put us on a stage no other out of conference team could. An away vs ND moves the needle for me. A home and home with Indiana, Iowa State, etc.. doesn't. I really want to play 4 cupcake OOC games but since the SEC is mandating 1 "big game", I'd love it to be ND.
 

QuaoarsKing

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I don't know. Maybe we could set it up that the first game is in South Bend, and if they beat us, that's it, but if we beat them, they give us a return game in Starkville a few years later?
 

Shamoan

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someone forward this to stricklandz....we are cool with visiting mobile for a home and home with usa, but we are above a single invite match against arguably one of the most storied programs in the nation. being in the sec sure has its advantages for us elite sec programs.
 

thatsbaseball

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Absolutely...great recruiting tool and a chance to put the program on the national stage
 

HD6

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Isn't having a home game where you can, you know, actually host recruits, a better recruiting tool? I mean, Purdue plays Notre Dame every year, how's their recruiting?

The national stage? Those games against LSU and Alabama every season don't already do that?
 

Shamoan

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sure, a home and home is ideal, however given the option of one or none, i pick one. purdue has played notre dame 85 times and is in the same state as nd in addition to playing them annually. i cringe at the comparison, but iowa state would be lucky to play a beatable alabama squad. nd is very beatable (opportunity is fading as chip gets things together) plus its a pretty big deal. nd rarely plays a sec team (last i recall was tennessee)...for the dregs of the sec (us) to dominate nd would be an opportunity we should jump at regardless of venue. i think exactly that would happen. they could beat us, but if we bring our B game, we could beat them handily unless they play their A game. plus, i am protestant....#grudgematch. chris jones would bury his 95 theses in the center of brady quinn's (insert applicable nd qb's name) chest.
 
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thatsbaseball

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Yea playing JSU in Starkville > playing Notre Dame in South Bend as far as future recruiting. Do you really not understand what it means to a recruit to get a chance to play a game at Notre Dame ? And us playing LSU is big news in exactly 2 states Mississippi and Louisiana and then usually no longer than the middle of the third quarter. But hey there are a lot of MSU fans just like you....big talking SEC fans scared to play anybody but patsies out of conference.
 

Shamoan

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my feelings toward nd are the same as how i felt about michigan prior to us playing them in the first gator bowl in the '00's. i felt highly confident that if we didnt play sleepwalking (a-la northwestern '13), we would win handily. we may be traditionally the dregs of the sec west, but we can hold our own against slower, less-athletic white guys from the midwest as long as we play our game and execute. clearly, northwestern was an exception to that, but we played our D game and still had a shot to pull it out had things improved.

i know nd recruits nationally, but i am not impressed with their product on the field and i have been watching them for a long time. i used to watch them all the time in high-school and college, but i feel like they are pretty consistently unimpressive.
 

HD6

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So when Alabama is a top 5 team, nobody else in the SEC or the country is following that game? You believe that?

The concept that who we play on the road out of conference affects our recruiting one iota is amusing. Have you ever heard a recruit say "One of the reasons I picked School X is that they play at Notre Dame."? Do you think the average recruit is a 50 year old white guy that remembers when Notre Dame was an elite program? Most recruits these days think Alabama, LSU, Oklahoma, Oregon as national powers. Notre Dame, not so much.

I just want somebody to explain to me, without an insult, why a team that has played either #1 or #2 , or both each of the past 5 years has to go looking for a bump in schedule strength. You don't think our schedule is tough enough already, you think we need to bump it up even more, and you're willing to give away home games to do that. Explain that logic to me.
 

Shamoan

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i agree with the overall gist of your comments, as i would prefer 4 guaranteed wins when we play the tougher teams in the east in that respective year, but the reality is that we are being forced by the conference into playing the upper tier conferences and if we cant secure deals with the likes of kansas, iowa state, purdue, indiana, maryland, etc, we may have to look elsewhere. we are automatically going to see a jump in the SOS based on new sec regulations....that is our new reality. i am totally on your side prior to the sec's new decree, however, things have changed and i think we receive more benefit from a single road game with ND than we do with a home and home with iowa state if we were even lucky enough to land them on our schedule. i dont say that with a smile, as i would obviously prefer the home and home, but establish that connection, eek out a win, an maybe they might be more apt to play us in the future for revenge purposes. i know michigan fans would relish the opportunity to get revenge assuming they fielded a competent team. obviously, i think a casualty of that would be a lost recruiting weekend which should not be trivialized, but i think it would be worth it on a one-time bases....but thats just my opinion. regardless if you agree with the prior statement, it would be tremendous exposure for our program and worth consideration.
 

mcdawg22

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No.. They are irrelevant as much as NBC tries to make them so.

Notre Dame is a joke. They get ranked higher because of their name and so do their recruits. The year they "played" for a natty we would have beaten them 6 out of 10 times. To quote Asian groundskeepers, "They're ******."
 

RocketDawg

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No. We're an SEC team. We may be pretty much a perennial cellar-dweller, but we're still SEC and a major school. We don't do away-onlies with anybody.
 

Xenomorph

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Would we win? A win would be worth it. A loss to a mid-level program on the road with no return game would be awful.