Just look at the facts. Since 2016:
1-8 vs OSU
3-5 vs Mich
If you think that is acceptable as the HC at Penn State then I can't help you.
He is a good coach but he cannot win big games. Fair criticism.
Tough conversation: is Allar good enough?
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1-8 vs OSU
3-5 vs Mich
If you think that is acceptable as the HC at Penn State then I can't help you.
He is a good coach but he cannot win big games. Fair criticism.
We beat O? Do you even care? (don’t think you care lol)
and more numbers too funny
When the vast majority of the teams in yhe conference are worse than that.... that is not mediocre.
If one is in the 80th percentile is that mediocre?
Not saying he should not have won more, but one one else is winning those games either.
He is a top 10 coach in the nation by any respectable measurement. Even of he is a top 20 coach, that is not mediocre.
Is he the best? Obviously
not. But there are are not too many that can claim to be the best.If a 4-13 record is not good enough. That is fine, but your searching for something that no other coach did over that time.
But what of 82 n 86When the vast majority of the teams in yhe conference are worse than that.... that is not mediocre.
If one is in the 80th percentile is that mediocre?
Not saying he should not have won more, but one one else is winning those games either.
He is a top 10 coach in the nation by any respectable measurement. Even of he is a top 20 coach, that is not mediocre.
Is he the best? Obviously
If a 4-13 record is not good enough. That is fine, but your searching for something that no other coach did over that time.
We have diff bars I guess. Let me ask you a question. If State loses to O and OSU, you want a new coach?
what if we don’t draw playoff fish like smu and Boise and get bounced first round. Still pro 15-0 knights bgj?
guess im asking if you have a “I’ve seen enough of bgj” point. (I’m there now btw)
what if we don’t draw playoff fish like smu and Boise and get bounced first round. Still pro 15-0 knights bgj?
guess im asking if you have a “I’ve seen enough of bgj” point. (I’m there now btw)
Yep. Don’t know if you root for the birds or not but in Philly people are freaking out about hurts. Not me. He made me a champion. BGJ wins a natty or loses a natty like he lost to USC (50-48 or so) I’ll give him no more schit. He can stay or go at his leisure.
i think there’s zero reason we can’t go 3 of 10 v OSU. Bgj can’t even touch that
If you think that’s not pretty normal for Penn State for the past almost 40 years, then I can’t help you.
You are not a champion…you cheer for a team that happened to win a championship…it had nothing to do with you and you had nothing to do with them winning.
No one, save our Creator, could make you a champion.
You mean the mediocre Phillies? They lost in the NLDS last year, how mediocre. Pedestrian even.
Too low, Franklin and PSU are around 90th percentile in performance. By any definition Franklin and PSU are not mediocre. That definition only applies to them in the minds of the delusional or those with incredible anti-Franklin bias.
for whatever reason (probably the nature of baseball) your taunt sucks balls and doesn’t apply to bgj in any way
So beating Rutgers 15 out of 15 keeps him out of the mediocre pool. Ok I guess if you really think that. I’m shocked people are so cool with his run here. Shocked even.
Let's be happy with losing every big game, hooray! Since an old Joe couldn't win much after the mid 90's that is somehow now normal or acceptable for Penn State football. Joe was old, what is Franklin's excuse? And let's ignore JoePa'a big game success for the first 30 years of his career.
Who has a good record vs OSU? Give us the list.
Ps. Matt rhule is 0 for his career vs the top 20.
Any reports of Allar getting better over the bye week? I love him as a person, but I have less confidence in him than he does.
We don’t lose every big game, so there’s that. And in the first 30 years, we weren’t in the Big 10, so it’s apples and oranges. I think Franklin would do fine playing WVU and Syracuse almost every game…but of course, those are now considered big games.
Syracuse was a pretty good program during Joe's time playing them so yeah that was a good win. West Virginia was also a solid program. Just because a team wasn't in the BIG doesn't mean it wasn't good. Prior to Penn State raising everyone's game in this league the Big Ten was garbage. The Big was a two team league and the winner would annually lose the Rose Bowl.
By the time the 80s rolled around we were playing a national schedule that annually featured teams like Alabama and Notre Dame. We played Nebraska, Texas, USC, Miami, etc. And the bottom line is when joe played the big boys in bowl games he was very successful.
That said Joe stayed too long and regrettably let the program and facilities slip. As joe said you either get better or you get worse - you never stay the same. He got worse, as we usually all do as we age.
I agree that Joe stayed too long but the fact is he averaged almost 10 wins and won 2 BiG titles in his last 6 3/4 years. I think the 2012 team would have won the BiG again if not for the sanctions.
Yes, we - I went to and work for Penn State. Unlike you (you would be “they”).
We don’t deseve anything. But a few folks would like to see us beat a team with a pulse more than once a decade.
Than why does everyone snicker at Big Game James?
If he has to coach at a school with lesser resources, he would be exposed as middling.
I am thinking he is on to Florida soon.
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Good for them…something to aspire too…I remember a time and a coach who beat O$U quite regularly…even on the road…even in major bowl games…
Nowadays, we are content with playing them close.
For Pete’s sake, JVP went into Columbus and beat a top-10 ranked OSU team during that time span.