Toughest road to state

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In my opinion Parry McCluer has the toughest road to the championship game, they are going to have to beat some very good teams.

Also I think Fort Chiswell has a good draw to make it deep in the playoffs.

Who else besides 1 and 2 have a good road to the big game.
 

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Well if Essex wants another run at Salem they'll have to beat William Campbell first then go to Riverheads then to more than likely Colonial Beach or Franklin then out West to play the top remaining seed on that side of the bracket. All that just to get to Salem.... I will say PM has a hard draw themselves. A Covington team who is tough then probably Hurley out there then more than likely GW. Tough draw but PM is one of the most impressive teams I've seen out West this year and I wouldn't be surprised to see them go on a run. That backfield is built for playoff football
 
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In my opinion Parry McCluer has the toughest road to the championship game, they are going to have to beat some very good teams.

Also I think Fort Chiswell has a good draw to make it deep in the playoffs.

Who else besides 1 and 2 have a good road to the big game.
Thats a tough draw for them bro, but like they say: if you want to be the best, you gotta beat em... if the favorites win out, their 1st, 2nd, and 3rd round opponents would have only 5 losses between them , going to be hard to top that from a win/loss record standpoint
 

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In my opinion Parry McCluer has the toughest road to the championship game, they
In my opinion Parry McCluer has the toughest road to the championship game, they are going to have to beat some very good teams.

Also I think Fort Chiswell has a good draw to make it deep in the playoffs.

Who else besides 1 and 2 have a good road to the big game.
The 3 teams to beat Fort have a combined record of 27-3. All 3 with one lose each. GW to Galax, Graham to Richlands and PM to Buffalo Gap? GW is a 2 seed, Graham a 2 seed in 2A and PM at 9-1 a 6 seed.
 
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GKKING

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PM by far has the toughest road(Covington,@ Hurley & GW) with maybe a semifinal game at Sussex. After seeing PM play. The biggest team I have ever seen in 1A as far as 11 starters on the field.
 
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PM has it the toughest if they make it to Salem the will definitely deserve it. And GK what's the line size cause I haven't even seen a team close to GW in team size. Now I know PM has 3 huge backs but I'd be extremely surprised if there line was bigger than ours.
 

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PM has it the toughest if they make it to Salem the will definitely deserve it. And GK what's the line size cause I haven't even seen a team close to GW in team size. Now I know PM has 3 huge backs but I'd be extremely surprised if there line was bigger than ours.
PM's line is big. I've had them in Salem since day 1. Not backing off of that pick now.
 
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With Covington, Hurley, GW and probably Sussex if they make it they definitely deserve it. I'd love to see how our lines match up cause GW has the biggest O and D lines I've ever seen in high school football. And it's not just size it's depth and speed with there size.
 
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FORT89

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I would have to agree with everyone's opinion on who has the toughest road to state. I guess the easiest road to the playoffs, isn't always the best road. I will say this, they are big up front and have some big backs to plow ahead. The question is. Will they use all this talk about "No Respect" to their advantage? They may be the best 6th seed out there at 9-1. Only time will tell.
 

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Te-Te here it is....6-2 210, 6-4 245, 6-1 285, 6-3 265, 6-5 275, 6-3 330, 6-5 210. Backs 6-1 215, 6-2 225, 6-2 220. 2 backs run 4.4 Nelson runs 4.5.
 
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GW is a little bigger up front by those #s our backs aren't as big they are 6' 210 6'220 5'11 180 But they are all lighting fast. Sounds like if the stars line up we have a good match up on our hands
 
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Sports talk89

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Gw blaster I have watched a lot of football. And Gw line this year is good but to say they are the best I've seen is a stretch. The fc team a couple years back had one of the best lines I've seen. Between Coleman and crockett and the other boys and in my opinion a lot better then Gw line this year on o and d
 
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Well yeah that was a special line at FC that year. I didn't say the best line I've ever seen I said Biggest. These kids are freaks lol I will say they are 1 of the best I've ever seen. But I have seen better but not bigger even the kids on the sideline are huge.
 

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Gw Blaster they are a big line I will give you that. Not the biggest I have ever seen and by far not the best line I have ever seen. They are good though. Riverheads for example has a small line but they open the holes sometimes they can be too big and get winded easy and cannot move lol.
 
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Oh no doubt a line can be to big thankfully this group are big but not fat. The size doesn't slow then down or make them tired. Against Galax they just flat out got outplayed and I think that woke them up.
 

oldballcoach13

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Just kidding folks. The PM line averages 134 pounds and the backs are slow and overweight. They only have 12 players. They're no good at all. No need to worry about them. Just give the title to someone else
 
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Only a fool and team of fools wouldn't take PM seriously. If my comments seem like I'm not sorry. But I really do think a game between GW vs PM would be something to watch.
 

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Just kidding folks. The PM line averages 134 pounds and the backs are slow and overweight. They only have 12 players. They're no good at all. No need to worry about them. Just give the title to someone else

I'm not doubting their line is big but I'd bet my house they don't have 3 backs running 4.5's or lower. 40 times vary drastically when it's laser timed compared to when a trigger happy coach is holding a stop watch.
 

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Not saying it is the case with GW because I know their line is good but I've seen many times that it's not always the biggest line but the ones who are more fundamentally sound who are better. I've seen 180 lb linemen dominate a 300 lb linemen many times because he knew how to block and not just use his size. Like someone said above about Riverheads. They aren't that big upfront at all and usually aren't but they consistently get the job done. Even looking back to 2000 when KW won a state title if you had looked at them in warmups compared to Honaker it looked like a college line against a high school line as KW had no linemen over 220. I believe the fullback was bigger than all of the linemen. Lol. But it came down to fundamentals and who could execute the best. As the old saying goes it's not the size of the dog in the fight but the size of the fight in the dog
 

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Not sure of the 40 times on the PM backs but just from looking at them on film I'd be willing to bet they aren't far off. Nelson may be closer to 4.6 but he's a beast regardless but Cook and Dawson despite their size are flat out burners too.
 

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One of the best lines I've ever seen is the 95 bath co . chargers....and the 92 William Monroe team that bear PM in the champ game

That 91 William Monroe team was the first team in like 9 years to beat Central Lunenburg during the regular season. The '91 Blues were a great squad, but man the Dragons were special that year.
 
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Numerous players can run sub 4.5. Rockbridge has had numerous players in the 4.3-4.4 range. Something you've never seen before?
 
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kwhs95fan

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Essex rb KJ Dameron is 6" 2 245 and runs a legit 4.6 40 so definitely no reason the backs at PM aren't at 4.5. It's not like he said they were running 4.2. Then I'd have to question it. Lol
 

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Numerous players can run sub 4.5. Rockbridge has had numerous players in the 4.3-4.4 range. Something you've never seen before?


If you show me where PM has 3 backs laser timed at sub 4.5's I'll believe you..but I'm not going to take your word for it. A quick google search doesn't bring up any recruiting pages for the 3 rb's you listed and if they all were really 200+ lbs and laser timed at 4.4's im sure you could find something other than local news articles or hudl pages.

Again - STOPWATCHES DO NOT COUNT
 

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Essex rb KJ Dameron is 6" 2 245 and runs a legit 4.6 40 so definitely no reason the backs at PM aren't at 4.5. It's not like he said they were running 4.2. Then I'd have to question it. Lol

When you say legit 4.6, where we he timed at?
 

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I can tell you from looking at them they're all way over 200 lbs. Lol. Somebody more familiar with PM would have to verify the 40 times but I have no doubt that Cook and Dawson are 4.5 at least
 

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I believe if I'm not mistaken it was timed at the VT camp he was invited to this summer along with a couple of other Essex players
 
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In my opinion Parry McCluer has the toughest road to the championship game, they are going to have to beat some very good teams.

Also I think Fort Chiswell has a good draw to make it deep in the playoffs.

Who else besides 1 and 2 have a good road to the big game.

I'm telling you guys now fort is going to beat Galax
 
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was it by hand time or computer if they were timed by hand then you got to add .20 if not more for the reaction time so more than like they are running 4.6 and 4.7 40 yard dashes. it you don't believe look up BO Jackson 40 time he ran a 4.13 by hand but when recalculated in real time with the computer it was more like a 4.3
 
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oldballcoach13

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Ask Fort89 how fast they are he knows LOL ( I think that's my first ever). They've been to camps all over. You can't believe everything you find on google, hell Google said Clinton was ahead by 9 points election day morning. See how that turned out don't you? I'll put it to ya like this, if they even get a step in front of somebody you ain't catching them! Dawson has speed to burn, a step faster than his brother and he's not even going full speed.
 
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We gotta get there first. Galax is a number one seed for reason. They are big and very well coached.

It don't matter how big you are if you play with your heart. In 2001 I was a junior we beat Sussex 21-0 in the regular season for the district title we were big 300+ lbs across the O line and our D line was just as big. Sussex had little bitty dudes 5" 2" 200 defensive lineman and offensive line but when we played them again in the playoffs they took it to us they play with passion and determination we were the better team on paper and we were well coached we had a college coach but Sussex out hustled us played with more heart they beats us 42 -12 they went on to play in the state title game they lost to bath county I think so size don't matter when it comes to heart. It isn't the size of the dog in the fight its the size of the fight in the dog. To all the under dogs if yawl don't remember nothing I say just remember this quote
 
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Ask Fort89 how fast they are he knows LOL ( I think that's my first ever). They've been to camps all over. You can't believe everything you find on google, hell Google said Clinton was ahead by 9 points election day morning. See how that turned out don't you? I'll put it to ya like this, if they even get a step in front of somebody you ain't catching them! Dawson has speed to burn, a step faster than his brother and he's not even going full speed.

If you guys happen to make it out of the west then you will witness what speed really is we got track stars here in the east that can convert it over to the football field. As far as the election goes it doesn't matter who won I make good money so I wont be affected by the outcome I didn't even vote. but back to the 40 times formula's don't lie it makes a big difference when it come down to the computer vs the hand when clocking speed. there maybe nobody out west that can catch him but out here in the east he will get walked down trust and believe. after yawl lose come watch GW take on Sussex then you will see some speed.
 
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Franklin Broncos

franklin 4x100 meter dash team won the state meet last season and this was 1A/2A state teams not just 1A and they have two guys from that team in the back field this year and I want to say Sussex is faster than franklin. So oldballcoach13 you really haven't seen any real speed unless Covington still has those two guys from the state meet I think GW have a young fella with so descent speed I think hurley have a guy also cant really think of anybody else out west oh almost forgot about Patrick Henry (G. Spring) don't know if they still have there guys from last years meet