Can't speak for the fanbase, but while I had concerns with the RB room as a whole heading into last year, I felt ok with Emmett being RB #1. He had over 1,000 yards in his NU career heading into this past season and showed an upward trajectory once Holgerson showed up last year. Right now, we have no RBs that have proven much of anything, particularly in conference play, and Holgerson and/or Barthel showed less faith in the backup RBs in the amount of carries and PT they gave to that group than any NU coach in my lifetime. While I had concerns last year on our RB situation, they are amplified this year. I didn't see the bowl game, so missed whatever Nelson showed in that.
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Nelson came out swinging right away in the bowl game and overall did well during that game. I wouldn’t be surprised if Mozee got moved back to receiver because I don’t see him being much more than a third down receiving back. I think Nelson could do well but even then I think we will need someone to compliment him or a guy that’s gonna be a starter from day one.
Really.... In order of priority this is way down the list.
QB
DT
OT
OG
LB
Safety
RB somewhere after all those positions.
Mozee and Nelson are both heavier than EJ. Booth is 215. The incoming freshman I’ve see listed as heavy as 215. Running with confidence is a big deal. The 230 lb back who can take it 80 is a rare duck. Tough to get.
Nelson and Moore were both higher ranked recruits than EJ. Rule’s offer list is good and included Miami. I think we have a good one signed.
If anyone is arguing that EJ was going to be awesome, that is a reverse engineered take. Sometime before fall camp. I posted that I thought EJ would go over 1000 yards. There were few of any in that camp. Emmett had showed a bit more before this season than the others did this season but then again they got very few opportunities to show what they could do.
I think the fact EJ on had one good chance to show his talent is kind of a knock on Barthel. For the last 3-4 years Nebraska has done everything it can to not play EJ. He is pretty bad in pass protection and wasn't great in the pass game, and is really bad in short yardage for a back with such hype. Kind of weird that he led the nation in yards after contact but couldn't get any yards in short yardage...like why did we have to use HH so often in short yardage when we had an all-american running back? Weird situation.
Fans were desperate when he entered the portal last year, we knew he was a good dependable back...he has holes in his game due to lack of size, as he is more of 3rd down back type than an every down back, which is why it hurt us running with him in short yardage and the goal line. I don't really buy that a running back is an all-american when they can't be used reliably in short yardage. That is like having an all-american qb who can't make a 3rd and long throw, that is what separates the good from the best.
Tre Bryant was the one I thought would be a bell cow but his knees did him in.
OK, fine. Bring in a stud RB. Great. But Nelson and Mozee ran for 120 yards on only 19 carries in the bowl game. Pretty ******* sure that they were not the cause of NU getting blown out. If I had to choose, I would rather get a stud DT or pass rusher. And if you're in the we'll get stud players at every position camp, then I've got some irrigated farm land in southern Louisiana that I'd like to sell you.
People were probably crying about the RBs last year too. They had no clue how good Emmitt was.
Half of the NFL uses a fullback now. And it's not difficult to find a good one, but that doesn't fit the let's look like narrative.
CharMar could very well be a Husker. I doubt that he's happy with his touches. I like our RB room, but I wouldn't be against adding one tough, physical runner.
Speaking of, I've been watching the Steelers move a TE (Jonnu Smith) into the RB position right behind Rodgers and then running him occasionally on toss plays. It would never happen, but moving a monster like Jeremiah Jones presnap and then occasioning running him on pitch plays sounds pretty cool.
Benning is throwing softballs. That’s not anything too critical.
I had a 100% faith in EJ day one. I don’t have faith in the other guys. I never thought EJ was a DBC back. That’s all I see we have. Nelson looks good with a hole but so does almost anyone. I don’t think you’re staying Nelson and EJ are interchangeable. Also, we need to do better than 11th in rushing. That’s with EJ. So just status quo isn’t good enough. IMO. Have to improve
So you’re expecting to strike gold all the time on lower ranked kids? Look through those rankings every year for 20+ years. The chances of actually being a good player vs not is significantly higher when you sign a top 25 player at their position and it’s not even close.
If the recruiting services missed that much, they wouldn’t be in business. Use your Brain
And who the hell is Moore? Do you mean Isaiah Mozee, the kid that was rated as a WR by all of the recruiting services? Do you think rankings just stay the same regardless of what position you’re being rated at? 5 star RB would be a 5 star QB if he moves to QB? Like Cody Green was an RB and LB for us in the mid-2000s. They said he would have been rated as an 5-star out of TX if he’d had been willing to be rated as a LB, but wanted to be a RB so he was ranked I believe he was a 3 star.
So one back on the roster was ranked higher than EJ as an RB but he too wasn’t ranked high. (Big importance @ RB). And Cool!!! Again use your Brain. But then again “Moore” might be ranked higher than EJ @ RB. whoever Moore plays for. Plug and play. Stars don’t matter, Xs and Os only and we have brillant minds on the staff
PS- Miami did offer Rule. Miami Ohio. Big difference between Miami Florida. No da U offer on his time line. But Matt likes MAC talent. He’s a MAC level coach
May 01, 2024: Offer
Miami (OH) RedHawks offer Jamal Rule
Please tell me your trolling cause you failed so so bad
I will wait until you try to make your complete BS true to save face
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Rule isn’t a “lower ranked kid”. He’s ranked higher than any of our starting RBs since Marlon Lucky. He had offers from his home state school and Miami among others. Burkhead was being recruited by Texas as a safety. Ameer as a corner. EJ wasn’t offered by his home state school Minnesota. Should I go on? Rule’s video and measurables are very good. An offer for a RB from a major Florida program holds a lot of significance IMO.
You think Rule is good enough to step in right away? I like his film and personality
Per 247, Burkhead was a 4* recruit coming out of HS and Rule is a 3*. Rex was the number 5 all purpose back in that class. I remember Rex being a prime target for Tim Beck. Ameer was a 3* per Rivals and a 4* per 247 (3* in their composite).
Rule as a recruit is comparable to AA and EJ as far as rating/ranking. I'm sure the coaches have a plan for him. As with all of these recruits, will the kid follow the plan and put in the work. Rex did, AA did and EJ did. The RBs on the roster that everyone slags on do. If Rule does that, he'll be fine. Maybe even great.
You ignored how stupid you just looked
Shall i make you look worse
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Looks like 247 had burkhead as a RB
but we could also talk Newbie who was pretty highly recruited
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I can go on. composite or straight 247 rankings
hell 2011-ish we had 4 really highly ranked backs that were all basically playing a ton. Diamond formation baby.
or how about Mills
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.88 still higher than ..87 no?
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Ok. Got me on Rex but it’s a fact that Texas was recruiting him as a safety. It’s the main reason he came to NU. I don’t think Ameer was even ranked as a RB.
Good for you. You actually looked it up. You don’t think Rule was highly recruited? Do your research on him now before you call him a “lowly ranked recruit”. Better yet, do the research on how many 3* and unranked high school RBs are in the NFL. Report back with your findings. Might want to start with Jeanty.
EJ was unranked. Ameer was a 3* cornerback. Ozigbo was a 3* whose best offer before Riley swooped in was Iowa State. Texas didn’t want Rex as a RB. Etc. Who am I missing? The bottom line is that Rivals doesn’t know sh## about RBs. Our highest ranked RB of the past 20 years was a soft lazy guy who wouldn’t practice. Yeah he put up big receiving yards. How did that work out for us?
You know what is REALLY stupid? Thinking that a dumpster fire program is going to land the sure fire NFL high schooler at the top of every top 10 college program’s recruiting board. That said, Miami is in the playoff and they wanted Rule. I don’t really give a sh** what he’s ranked.
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Here’s another back that started for us since lucky rated higher than Rule.
please just keep making crap up
Neither did the staff. Until Dana arrived. Which really makes you wonder how many other guys on defense should have been on the field. Anybody who watched a game in 2023 could see EJ was an explosive runner. Yet he got about 6 carries a game.
I liked Rhamir. He wasn’t a great back regardless of his ranking. You got me. In this case, I took a shot without actually looking at all of our former RBs’ rankings. My point still stands that rankings of probably the 3rd through 133rd RBs don’t mean much. Rex and Ameer were probably the best RBs of the past 25 years. Neither was wanted by their home state schools as RBs. Rex was kind of amazing to me. When I stood next to him in the tunnel, he wasn’t as big as I thought. He wasn’t a blazer but had great feet and quickness in the box. His football IQ was what kept in the NFL with the Pats. Ameer was another guy with great feet and he added tremendous lower body strength.
BTW. You can disagree with someone without calling names. I didn’t lie. It isn’t a lie if you’re too lazy to look it up
. I was too lazy to look it up in this case.
To some posters on the board, a 3* ranking is what the bird left on the post. During the Frost years, RB recruiting was mostly a miss regardless of ranking. Lots of well regarded HS/Portal recruits that basically went nowhere. Hell, both Nelson and Mozee have looked better than half of them in the limited time we've seen them play.
The truth is we don't know how Rule will turn out. But we do know that in general Barthel has his room ready to actually produce on the field and Held did not. So if Rule puts in the work, he will be fine. Maybe it's time for folks to accept that Barthel is actually a good RB coach.
I think the back half of Rahmir's time at NU would have been better if not for injury. When the kid was healthy, he was definitely a plus factor in terms of team success.
Rex was kind of amazing to me. When I stood next to him in the tunnel, he wasn’t as big as I thought. He wasn’t a blazer but had great feet and quickness in the box. His football IQ was what kept in the NFL with the Pats. Ameer was another guy with great feet and he added tremendous lower body strength.
BTW. You can disagree with someone without calling names. I didn’t lie. It isn’t a lie if you’re too lazy to look it up
RJ had take it to the house speed. He wasn’t much of a tackle breaking inside runner. Good receiver. Liked him in the rotation. He would have been really good in Tom’s offense I believe.
Sure go ahead with your zero sum, loser thinking which is why Nebraska has been in the mess it has for the last decade. But if we are to get out of this mess, we do need to be looking at studs at every position, and that goes doubly so for the RB position.
I never claimed that Nelson and Mozee didn't do relatively well in the bowl game, but that's a long shot from relying on them as starters for a whole season, especially when they couldn't even be trusted to give EJ a breather in consequential games. We need an actual starter quality RB in the portal.
10th in the conference in rushing before you get too mighty on yourself...
Raiola’s sack total was deducted from our rushing total. He must have had -90 yards in sacks at Minnesota.
33 sacks for -219 yards.
With Lateef at QB, he at least rushed for for positive yardage, 40 carries for 120 yards. compared to Raiola 46 attempts for -87 yards total rushing.
With Lateef at QB, he at least rushed for for positive yardage, 40 carries for 120 yards. compared to Raiola 46 attempts for -87 yards total rushing.
I predicted Emmett would have 1500 total yards and one response was quite literally "oh so we're going to be 2019 LSU now!?".
I also could not understand the lack of faith in EJ coming into the season.