Trump in Saudi Arabia.......

[MountaineerWV]

Asking an 18 yr old to polish my knob isnt disrespectful to women, IMO. Most of them enjoy it.

Saying a woman should be judged on her looks....is
Saying a woman is for taking care of children...is
Physically grabbing a woman without consent....is

First off, 18 years old means "ADULT", not "minor".....unless they are still in high school, then they would be considered minor....

Secondly, what is he even talking about? I remember the Monica situation, but as I stated previously, she wasn't 18.........and wasn't working on his campaign.......

 

[atlkvb]

You referring to Monica? If so, distort the facts much????

Monica was 22 years old when it first took place......that was in 1995 when she received her internship at the White House.......Monica was born in 1973........

But, again, facts aren't that important when you are trying to distort them.....

OK, she was 22. He was Married, that makes it OK?


Trump bragged about "grabbing *****" to a TV guy.


Bill bragged about a ***** sucking on his extension to his Wife (or check that he actually lied to her about it) and the Left is outraged over what Trump said but asked "who cares" over Clinton's infidelity and lies.

Got it!kay:

 

[Boomboom521]

I'll say this boomer, if there was no collusion, and so far it certainly doesn't look as if there was, it's going to make Hillary's defeat sting even worse.


You folks on the Left had better hope Trump did cheat with the Russians, otherwise the reality of your rejected message by the American voter will be too much for some of you to accept I'm afraid.

I accept it without anything Russian at all. The economy didn't grow at a normal rate. People in the rust belt are hurting economically. Trump appealed wisely to the voters, and promised them the jobs and economic benefits they desire. Nothing surprising about money driving people's decisions in America.

What stings, for me, is watching this President do most anything. He's as ugly of a person I've seen in a while. Inside and out.

 

[MountaineerWV]

OK, she was 22. He was Married, that makes it OK?


Trump bragged about "grabbing *****" to a TV guy.


Bill bragged about a ***** sucking on his extension to his Wife (or check that he actually lied to her about it) and the Left is outraged over what Trump said but asked "who cares" over Clinton's infidelity and lies.

Got it!kay:

Yeah, you lied........she was 22........and she was NOT working for his campaign.........and they were BOTH consenting........

Trump said that basically, as a celebrity, you can do whatever you want and even if the woman doesn't want to........

 

[Boomboom521]

OK, she was 22. He was Married, that makes it OK?


Trump bragged about "grabbing *****" to a TV guy.


Bill bragged about a ***** sucking on his extension to his Wife (or check that he actually lied to her about it) and the Left is outraged over what Trump said but asked "who cares" over Clinton's infidelity and lies.

Got it!kay:

Don't look now preacher, but there's all kinds of relationships out there. Maybe Hillary was ok with Bill getting it elsewhere? Their business. Got it?

 

[atlkvb]

First off, 18 years old means "ADULT", not "minor".....unless they are still in high school, then they would be considered minor....

Secondly, what is he even talking about? I remember the Monica situation, but as I stated previously, she wasn't 18.........and wasn't working on his campaign.......

Oh I'm sorry. Those are surely mitigating circumstances that excuse his otherwise disrespectful behavior.

Certainly not as bad as talking about grabbing *****!

 

[Boomboom521]

Oh I'm sorry. Those are surely mitigating circumstances that excuse his otherwise disrespectful behavior.

Certainly not as bad as talking about grabbing *****!

Two questions:

1- ever asked a woman to suck you?
2- ever cheated on a wife or girlfriend?

 

[MountaineerWV]

Oh I'm sorry. Those are surely mitigating circumstances that excuse his otherwise disrespectful behavior.

Certainly not as bad as talking about grabbing *****!

You left out Trump's multiple affairs.....divorces......etc.......

If you are going to bring it, at least do so with some knowledge.

 

[atlkvb]

Don't look now preacher, but there's all kinds of relationships out there. Maybe Hillary was ok with Bill getting it elsewhere? Their business. Got it?

I sure do boomer. Maybe Melania wanted Trump's hand in her crotch?

Everybody should be able to do whatever makes them "feel good" without anyone else passing judgement right boomer my Man?

 

[MountaineerWV]

Two questions:

1- ever asked a woman to suck you?
2- ever cheated on a wife or girlfriend?

Of course he's never done that........the media is just targeting Trump.......I mean they didn't even mention the Bill Clinton scandals in the 1990's..........oh, wait......you mean they did????

 

[MountaineerWV]

I sure do boomer. Maybe Melania wanted Trump's hand in her crotch?

Everybody should be able to do whatever makes them "feel good" without anyone else passing judgement right boomer my Man?

Just the same as Monica didn't need any arm twisting to do what she did.....but that did NOT stop YOU from accusing Bill Clinton of "abusing a minor"..........ridiculous.......you are losing it "my man".

 

[atlkvb]

You left out Trump's multiple affairs.....divorces......etc.......

If you are going to bring it, at least do so with some knowledge.

How could I have forgotten...Juanita Broderick, Paula Jones, and a whole host of other Women who claimed Bill didn't just grab their pussies, he forced himself into them!

Then lied about that too! At least Trump admitted to the ***** grabbing boasts!

 

[atlkvb]

Of course he's never done that........the media is just targeting Trump.......I mean they didn't even mention the Bill Clinton scandals in the 1990's..........oh, wait......you mean they did????

So if all that's normal and OK MountaineerWV, why are you so sore over something Trump said?

Why aren't you defending his sexual appetite as strenuously as you're defending Clinton's?

 

[MountaineerWV]

How could I have forgotten...Juanita Broderick, Paula Jones, and a whole host of other Women who claimed Bill didn't just grab their pussies, he forced himself into them!

Then lied about that too! At least Trump admitted to the ***** grabbing bragging.

And Trump never had affairs, right? This doesn't change the fact that YOU LIED to try to make your stance better.

If Bill forced them, what prison is he in currently?

 

[MountaineerWV]

So if all that's normal and OK boom, why are you so sore over something Trump said?

Why aren't you defending his sexual appetite as strenuously as you're defending Clinton's?

Someone is rattled......I'm not "Boom"......and nobody is defending anything. YOU brought up Clinton. YOU lied about Clinton "abusing an 18 year old".......this is all on YOU.

 

[Boomboom521]

I sure do boomer. Maybe Melania wanted Trump's hand in her crotch?

Everybody should be able to do whatever makes them "feel good" without anyone else passing judgement right boomer my Man?

Quite a jump there

 

[Boomboom521]

How could I have forgotten...Juanita Broderick, Paula Jones, and a whole host of other Women who claimed Bill didn't just grab their pussies, he forced himself into them!

Then lied about that too! At least Trump admitted to the ***** grabbing bragging.

Other women claimed Trump did it too, are those claims true too?

 

[atlkvb]

Someone is rattled......I'm not "Boom"......and nobody is defending anything. YOU brought up Clinton. YOU lied about Clinton "abusing an 18 year old".......this is all on YOU.

Sorry Dude...I was on my phone (smaller screen) and thought I was responding to something he (boomer) had posted (we're having a friendly pissing match over Trump v Clinton morals)

I do apologize for posting to you over something you didn't say.

 

[MountaineerWV]

Other women claimed Trump did it too, are those claims true too?

I can answer that claim....."NO...THEY LIE!"

[thumbsup]

 

[atlkvb]

Quite a jump there

That's not my philosophy my friend...remember I'm "the preacher"?[winking]

 

[MountaineerWV]

Sorry Dude...I was on my phone (smaller screen) and thought I was responding to something he (boomer) had posted (we're having a friendly pissing match over Trump v Clinton morals)

I do apologize for posting to you over something you didn't say.

What you should apologize for is the lying that you are doing and the attempted cover up of it.......face it, no matter what you say about Bill Clinton you cannot then turn around and defend Donald Trump.....they are cut from the same mold......

 

[atlkvb]

I can answer that claim....."NO...THEY LIE!"

[thumbsup]

MountaineerWV, no Man should even think about doing that to a woman, much less lie about it. you don't hear me defending Trump do you?

I'm laughing at the Left's apoplexy over him when sexual promiscuity is you folk's calling card!

Don't you remember these?

 

[MountaineerWV]

boomer no Man should even think about doing that to a woman, much less lie about it. you don't hear me defending Trump do you?

I'm laughing at the Left's apoplexy over him when sexual promiscuity if you folk's calling card!

Don't you remember these?

Again, NOT "Boomer"..........I suggest getting a new phone, or glasses, or not being rattled from your lying........

You say you don't defend Trump for that........but you attack Clinton? Why not attack Trump? Why go after Clinton, and ONLY Clinton? That can be implied as "defending" someone.

Hmmm?????

 

[atlkvb]

What you should apologize for is the lying that you are doing and the attempted cover up of it.......face it, no matter what you say about Bill Clinton you cannot then turn around and defend Donald Trump.....they are cut from the same mold......

MountaineerWV I'm not defending either one of them.

Trump's behavior was disgusting and I've said so. I'm amused at how upset the Left is with him and how little you all cared about Clinton's equally boorish if not outright misogynistic treatment of women (Hillary's too for that matter)

She called them "bimbos" when they accused her Husband of rape and she ignored all of his other illicit trysts.

Wanna know something else MountaineerWV (this is a little "inside baseball tip" for you) I know many voters personally who did not vote for Hillary simply because of the way she dismissed all of those Women who accused her husband and the fact she overlooked all of that just to wait her turn at political power.

Nothing else she said after that mattered to them, they saw her as a complete phony on Women's issues, and the Man she defended as a total creep.

Trump looked like a choir boy compared to him to a lot of them.

Fact.

 

[atlkvb]

Again, NOT "Boomer"..........I suggest getting a new phone, or glasses, or not being rattled from your lying........

You say you don't defend Trump for that........but you attack Clinton? Why not attack Trump? Why go after Clinton, and ONLY Clinton? That can be implied as "defending" someone.

Hmmm?????

Haven't done either MountaineerWV. Trump should have been ashamed of himself. Wouldn't have been elected if it weren't for Bill Clinton who should have gone to jail.

No one excuses what either of them did, least of all me. However I wasn't going to stand aside and castigate Trump for his admittedly disrespectful attitudes toward Women, and let you folks get away with banishing him over something he said while you all defended and excused what Clinton actually DID which was far worse in my opinion.

Nope...it was our turn to ignore the "immorality" this time, and you folks who were going off on Trump never stopped for one minute to consider how truly two faced you all looked to the vast majority of American voters who saw right through your phony outrage.

 

[MountaineerWV]

MountaineerWV I'm not defending either one of them.

Trump's behavior was disgusting and I've said so. I'm amused at how upset the Left is with him and how little you all cared about Clinton's equally boorish if not outright misogynistic treatment of women (Hillary's too for that matter)

She called them "bimbos" when they accused her Husband of rape and she ignored all of his other illicit trysts.

Wanna know something else MountaineerWV (this is a little "inside baseball tip" for you) I know many voters personally who did not vote for Hillary simply because of the way she dismissed all of those Women who accused her husband and the fact she overlooked all of that just to wait her turn at political power.

Nothing else she said after that mattered to them, they saw her as a complete phony on Women's issues, and the Man she defended as a total creep.

Trump looked like a choir boy compared to him to a lot of them.

Fact.

OK, then why did you only bring up Bill Clinton and his sexual misconducts? Or why did you LIE about Monica's age? Why did you imply that he "abused" Monica, when she admitted it was consensual? Why no mention of Trump's promiscuity? I'll tell you why....because it doesn't fit your agenda here.

 

[atlkvb]

And Trump never had affairs, right? This doesn't change the fact that YOU LIED to try to make your stance better.

If Bill forced them, what prison is he in currently?

OK, so they all lied. He never had any affairs. He settled out of court with Paula Jones because he felt "sorry" for her?

Juanita Broderick made up her rape allegation right MountaineerWV? Trump should thank Bill Clinton for his Presidency.

Without Bill Clinton, there would have been no Hillary who was just awful...and without Bill's penchant for ***** penetrating (not just grabbing) Trump wouldn't have made it past Super Tuesday in the Republican primaries.

 

[atlkvb]

OK, then why did you only bring up Bill Clinton and his sexual misconducts? Or why did you LIE about Monica's age? Why did you imply that he "abused" Monica, when she admitted it was consensual? Why no mention of Trump's promiscuity? I'll tell you why....because it doesn't fit your agenda here.

If you read through this entire thread you'll see why Clinton's name was even mentioned. It was in comparison to the Left's constant haranguing over Trump's ***** grabbing comment.

 

[atlkvb]

Two questions:

1- ever asked a woman to suck you?
2- ever cheated on a wife or girlfriend?

1) Boom when I was "whoredogging around" in my unmarried WVU College days I was sleeping with chicks I didn't even know. We did stuff I didn't think back then was legal!

2) I've never cheated on my wife of 35 years, and never would.

 

[atlkvb]

Other women claimed Trump did it too, are those claims true too?

I'm not sure boomer. Trump's no Saint we all knew that. However a lot of those women were discredited simply because their stories didn't line up with what other eyewitnesses either saw or knew.

Trump definitely liked the ladies no doubt. Look at Melania? Apparently his sexual exploits didn't bother her, she married him and as far as I know he's been faithful to her.

But who knows? She could be "kinky" too you know?

 

[CAJUNEER_rivals]

1) Boom when I was "whoredogging around" in my unmarried WVU College days I was sleeping with chicks i didn't even know. We did stuff I didn't think back then was legal!

2) I've never cheated on my wife of 35 years, and never would.

You're old.

 

[Boomboom521]

So if all that's normal and OK boom, why are you so sore over something Trump said?

Why aren't you defending his sexual appetite as strenuously as you're defending Clinton's?

If you can't see a difference, I can't help you understand. BTW, my opinion throws out all of the accusations.

 

[Boomboom521]

If you read through this entire thread you'll see why Clinton's name was even mentioned. It was in comparison to the Left's constant haranguing over Trump's ***** grabbing comment.

I didn't bring up the ***** grabbing comment, I brought up his multiple comments that disrespect women.

 

[Boomboom521]

1) Boom when I was "whoredogging around" in my unmarried WVU College days I was sleeping with chicks I didn't even know. We did stuff I didn't think back then was legal!

2) I've never cheated on my wife of 35 years, and never would.

Then I respect YOUR ability to respect your wife.

 

[Boomboom521]

I'm not sure boomer. Trump's no Saint we all knew that. However a lot of those women were discredited simply their stories didn't line up with what other eyewitnesses either saw or knew.

Trump definitely liked the ladies no doubt. Look at Melania? Apparently his sexual exploits didn't bother her, she married him and as far as I know he's been faithful to her.

But who knows? She could be "kinky" too you know?

At least your starting to respect the fact that not everyone thinks alike. And even those that think differently from you can conduct themselves with respect and caring towards others. Morality isn't just determined by you and your chosen religion.

 

[atlkvb]

At least your starting to respect the fact that not everyone thinks alike. And even those that think differently from you can conduct themselves with respect and caring towards others. Morality isn't just determined by you and your chosen religion.

Boomer
I think this is where you have always misunderstood me. I do not for one minute think "my Religion" is the only answer to one's morality. However that being said I also do not think morality is relative. It must be guided by a standard, and can't be something we just make up to suit our own tastes.

I argue for standards, I argue for common decency and I argue for Truth among the competing versions of that. I do hold up Religion as a good place to start, but as you know not even all Religions agree either do they boom?

So that brings me back to arguing for Truth, which while debatable still stands alone as the final arbiter for moral righteousness once it is understood and accepted. THAT'S where you and I intersect then collide, arguing about Truth and where it can be tested & measured. Not Religious claims of having it.

 

[atlkvb]

Yeah, you lied........she was 22........and she was NOT working for his campaign.........and they were BOTH consenting........

Trump said that basically, as a celebrity, you can do whatever you want and even if the woman doesn't want to........

So why do you suppose HE (Clinton) lied? If the sex was consensual, why lie about it? Are you proud of his ability to convince that young intern it was in her best interests to please the President of the United States at his request? You don't think she was maybe slightly intimidated being just an intern and he's the Leader of the Free World and probably the most powerful person on Earth she knows at the time?

Trump's grabbing pussies is so much worse than Clinton's "consensual" excercise in mutually compatible Male Female sexual expression, especially if the Male is Married with a 12 year old Daughter?

 

[atlkvb]

Of course he's never done that........the media is just targeting Trump.......I mean they didn't even mention the Bill Clinton scandals in the 1990's..........oh, wait......you mean they did????

Actually I don't recall the Media's "outrage" over Clinton's escapades with that girl. they spent the first half of the year that story broke denying it was a legitimate story, and helped him peddle that lie. Then they spent the rest of their time accusing the Republicans of "stirring up" false scenarios of what actually happened. There was more defense of the "so what" "who cares" response than any moral outrage over what he actually did.

Compare that to the way they handled the Trump ***** grabbing? There was nothing but outrage. Do you remember "seeing" or "reading" any stories defendingTrump like they defended Clinton?

Link me.

 

[atlkvb]

Just the same as Monica didn't need any arm twisting to do what she did.....but that did NOT stop YOU from accusing Bill Clinton of "abusing a minor"..........ridiculous.......you are losing it "my man".

I didn't accuse him of abusing a minor, MountaineerWV, I said HE DID abuse a minor. In this case she was a subordinate employee, likely afraid of him or in awe of him and he took full advantage of his positional authority over her to force his sexual desires onto her?

Why even ask her to perform such a lewd act? If he had only asked if he could grab her ***** would that have made you more upset with him?

 

[atlkvb]

And Trump never had affairs, right? This doesn't change the fact that YOU LIED to try to make your stance better.

If Bill forced them, what prison is he in currently?

I didn't "lie" about anything. I got that kid's age wrong. Maybe when she started working for Clinton and in what capacity? However you and I both know MountaineerWV that he indeed is the one who lied about her and what he asked her to do (made her do) to him didn't he?

Why are you raking me over the coals for stating what is obvious here, and giving him a pass on being the reason for it?