That is false.
Again false. Where did I say that their poll did not support my viewpoint? I merely pointed out that you dismissed Rasmussen when you wanted to but then used them when you liked the result. You can look it up.
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That is false.
Again false. Where did I say that their poll did not support my viewpoint? I merely pointed out that you dismissed Rasmussen when you wanted to but then used them when you liked the result. You can look it up.
Rasmussen is really the only one you can trust, everyone else was so far off with the election and how they weight their variables. Rasmussen has been doing it for 20 years and it was almost the same as the other two major approval rate polls during the entire Obama presidency. Plus rasmussen has not changed their methodology, while Pew and Gallup both have.
How is this false?
Because that statement was specifically regarding their presidential approval polling. How many times will I have to repeat this before you decide to be honest?
What did I manipulate? You are the one trying to put words in my mouth. Now that you have been busted, you are trying to save face.
dave, you've been trying to save face post after post in this thread. You made a statement that you want to back away from, it's OK.
Please provide proof that I have backed away from any statement. You can't. It is obvious that you are a media shill, because when you are caught telling a lie you just use a new lie to buttress your first lie. Being dishonest gets easier the more lies you tell.
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Rasmussen is really the only one you can trust, everyone else was so far off with the election and how they weight their variables. Rasmussen has been doing it for 20 years and it was almost the same as the other two major approval rate polls during the entire Obama presidency. Plus rasmussen has not changed their methodology, while Pew and Gallup both have.
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Only quoting you dave, you shot down another approval poll you didn't like and said Rasmussen was the only credible poll, so here it is.
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Mighty hypocritical of you.
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Not at all, Fair and Balanced.
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Hypocritical and dishonest then.
Your own words dave, I think hypocrisy and dishonesty apply to you in this instance.
Please follow the above concerning this thread and another about Rasmussen polling. If you didn't make any of these statements I will apologize.
I don't give a **** about your apology. You are a liar and a hypocrite and no matter how you try to twist my words, I made my point clear so *** you.
No one needed to twist your words, dave. Caught in your own web of lies, taunts and disparaging remarks. How apropos.
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How do you know ???
All he's done since Day 1 of his campaign is ***** and moan and pick fights with anyone who hasn't fellated him. Let's face it; neither you nor anyone else has any REAL clue how he'd be treated if he'd acted simply like an adult rather than a spoiled rich kid (or dave). Not saying he'd be a media darling, but he'd at least be treated like the President should be treated. But even then, he's still dominated every news/opinion program in existence since the first time he body slammed Jeb Bush (and Megyn Kelly).
No question, every media outlet from beyond the US Right-wing has hit Trump with everything PLUS the kitchen sink. But Trump needs to look in the mirror if he can't (or refuses to try and) figure out why. Of course, unless he's absolute THE dumbest primate this side of Harumbe.....for which there seems to be at least SOME evidence currently..... he already KNOWS why, but just doesn't care.
Spot on.......I just don't know why says some of the things does. No doubt the media hates him and will disparage everything he says or does. I think his ego will not allow him to back off.
Point out one lie. All you can do is take unrelated quotes and twist them to suggest I said something I didn't say. So please point out one lie. Just one.
Sure you did.
Right here.
I didn't shoot down their poll. I never suggested I didn't like the poll. I never said Rasmussen was the only credible poll. Those are all your words applied to me. My response to your poll was simply to point out the hypocrisy of you using a Rasmussen poll after dismissing their poll when you didn't like its results.
You said "Rasmussen is really the only one you can trust," and used two examples in your statement, election polls and approval polls, to validate this statement. When I used a Rasmussen poll that showed numbers you didn't like you said I was a hypocrite, although I never made any statement to disparage your statement on Rasmussen. So your charge of hypocrisy is a lie.
When I showed you your statement you said I was dishonest, another lie.
But you also stated it about election polls as well. So you're saying that Rasmussen is only good for approval polls and election polls and even though they haven't changed their methodology like Pew or Gallup and can be trusted, that they are only good for these two polls and nothing else?
Biff has been aggressive toward the press from the beginning and villainizing them is part of his shtick.
Your words dave, I can't change them for you. They're here for all time on the Internet. Sorry.
Not to get in the middle of all this nonsense, but Rasmussen wasn't the hands down best presidential poll.
And they clearly show you putting words in my mouth. Lets just be honest. You are a dishonest person and shockingly you are in the media.
dave said it was. At least for approval polls and election polls anyway. Or at least one of those or neither of those.
It is hands down the best Presidential Approval rating, and that is what I was referring to then and now. Gallup didn't even do presidential election polling because they stated they didn't think they could do it accurately.
There you go again liar boy. I never said it was the best for election polls. The thread was about the presidential approval rating and nothing else. Why not just be honest?
So you're saying that you never made the statement about Rasmussen polls?
Or why would their polling methodology be superior in only one area, or maybe two, but the same methodology would be flawed when applied to another area on the same subject?
I really don't know where you get that from, or how you could judge that claim? His 2016 election polls were good, not the best and his predictions were as awful as everyone else.
Only one that really matters, isn't it?
dave's got his panties in a wad over polls. Let's just wait for next week's polls and we'll all have something else to laugh about. [winking]
You are talking about election polling and I am talking about the Daily Presidential Tracking Poll (his presidential approval ratings).
All that ever matters in any polling WVex-pat in GA. Until the final numbers are in, it's really all anyone's best guess.
I ignore most polling...because everyone one of 'em will eagerly report their "margin of error" which tells me no matter what they're predicting they're giving themselves an out...or at least room to be wrong which most of 'em usually are.
I made a statement about their approval ratings.
You can debate yourself over their methodoloy in one or two or eighty areas, because I never said **** about any of that.
OK...how do you determine which approval poll is most accurate? I'm still not seeing it. You can judge polls on races because there is a an answer at the end of the tunnel. Here's a 538 (FAKE NEWS) article on the current range of approval polls. Looks like Rasmussen is using online numbers and automated calls to land lines (these still exist?).
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/why-polls-differ-on-trumps-popularity/
Is this not your statement?
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Rasmussen is really the only one you can trust, everyone else was so far off with the election and how they weight their variables. Rasmussen has been doing it for 20 years and it was almost the same as the other two major approval rate polls during the entire Obama presidency. Plus rasmussen has not changed their methodology, while Pew and Gallup both have.
Because I have followed presidential approval ratings for a long time now and it is my opinion based on my observation. Gallup is pretty good and as far as I can tell those are really the only two who regularly do presidential approval ratings.
Ugh. Sounds like the football committee's "eye test" to me. Anyways, those 2 are pretty far apart right now. I'm note sure what any of this means or matters, just didn't agree with you on Rasmussen.
Twelve organizations who provide presidential approval poll data. We have now come full-circle. http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/trump_favorableunfavorable-5493.html