Trump's tweet to "send in the feds" to Chicago....

[RichardPeterJohnson]

came right after Bill O'Reilly aired a segment on violence in Chicago even using statistics that aired. So this is how he is going to conduct business? It's well documented that he doesn't read and that he's a TV watcher which explains his popularity among his 40%. But being influenced enough by a cable news report to immediately set policy? Crazy.
http://money.cnn.com/2017/01/24/media/trump-tweets-cable/

 

[Mntneer]

came right after Bill O'Reilly aired a segment on violence in Chicago even using statistics that aired. So this is how he is going to conduct business? It's well documented that he doesn't read and that he's a TV watcher which explains his popularity among his 40%. But being influenced enough by a cable news report to immediately set policy? Crazy.
http://money.cnn.com/2017/01/24/media/trump-tweets-cable/

He mentioned something along those lines back during the election.

 

[RichardPeterJohnson]

He mentioned something along those lines back during the election.

The guy is easily influenced and easily manipulated especially when his ego is involved.

 

[CAJUNEER_rivals]

It's well documented that he doesn't read

Only in your message board posts.

 

[bamaEER]

The guy is easily influenced and easily manipulated especially when his ego is involved.

And not well versed. It's one thing to question facts because you think they may be wrong. It's another thing to question facts when you don't even know them.

 

[Boomboom521]

Only in your message board posts.

That's not true.

https://www.axios.com/trump-101-what-he-reads-and-watches-2210510272.html

 

[CAJUNEER_rivals]

That's not true.

https://www.axios.com/trump-101-what-he-reads-and-watches-2210510272.html

You have me on ignore, remember?

 

[Boomboom521]

You have me on ignore, remember?

I do the same thing when punishing my 4 yr old sometimes....I'm a weak liberal

 

[CAJUNEER_rivals]

I do the same thing when punishing my 4 yr old sometimes....I'm a weak liberal

Well let me see if I can get back on ignore. RPJ did not say he doesn't read books. He said he doesn't read. The article says he reads newspapers. It doesn't say he doesn't read. So it looks like it is you who doesn't read.

 

[Boomboom521]

Well let me see if I can get back on ignore. RPJ did not say he doesn't read books. He said he doesn't read. The article says he reads newspapers. It doesn't say he doesn't read. So it looks like it is you who doesn't read.

Shoots and scores!!

 

[RichardPeterJohnson]

Well let me see if I can get back on ignore. RPJ did not say he doesn't read books. He said he doesn't read. The article says he reads newspapers. It doesn't say he doesn't read. So it looks like it is you who doesn't read.

I'll take my hat off to his reading the NY Times. But the Post? And Page 6? Tabloid akin to the National Enquirer. Deep thinker that Donald.

 

[bamaEER]

I'll take my hat off to his reading the NY Times. But the Post? And Page 6? Tabloid akin to the National Enquirer. Deep thinker that Donald.

He has Breitbart Bannon on his staff and Bannon has Biff brainlocked in a Breitbart mindmeld, pumping new thoughts and plans into his head continuously. No need to read anything else.

 

[bornaneer]

The guy is easily influenced and easily manipulated especially when his ego is involved.

I know you have been waiting for this Chicago update.
And you question Trumps desire to help? Looks like someone (OB/GYN ? ) is manipulating whats left of your brain. Your are a ***** nut.
January to Date
Shot & Killed: 45
Shot & Wounded: 219
Total Shot: 264
Total Homicides: 46

Final 2016 Totals
Shot & Killed: 716
Shot & Wounded: 3663
Total Shot: 4379
Total Homicides: 798

 

[TarHeelEer]

You have me on ignore, remember?

:boxing:

 

[WVPATX]

I know you have been waiting for this Chicago update.
And you question Trumps desire to help? Looks like someone (OB/GYN ? ) is manipulating whats left of your brain. Your are a ***** nut.
January to Date
Shot & Killed: 45
Shot & Wounded: 219
Total Shot: 264
Total Homicides: 46

Final 2016 Totals
Shot & Killed: 716
Shot & Wounded: 3663
Total Shot: 4379
Total Homicides: 798

Libs are absolutely amazing. Chicago is out of control. Murders are out of control. Just yesterday, Emmanuel welcomed federal involvement.

Here is what the libs are really afraid of. If Trump acts, sends in the Feds, maybe the National Guard, and the murder rate begins to drops and over time, plummets. My guess is that those communities hardest hit in Chicago would welcome and thank Trump for his help. This scares libs to death that the strangle hold on the black vote could be jeopardized.

 

[atlkvb]

I'll take my hat off to his reading the NY Times. But the Post? And Page 6? Tabloid akin to the National Enquirer. Deep thinker that Donald.

Judging by the paucity I've certainly read in some your posts RPJ, I could surmise you found Dr. Seuss challenging.

 

[Airport]

Libs are absolutely amazing. Chicago is out of control. Murders are out of control. Just yesterday, Emmanuel welcomed federal involvement.

Here is what the libs are really afraid of. If Trump acts, sends in the Feds, maybe the National Guard, and the murder rate begins to drops and over time, plummets. My guess is that those communities hardest hit in Chicago would welcome and thank Trump for his help. This scares libs to death that the strangle hold on the black vote could be jeopardized.

If the police were allowed to enforce the law, something liberals have a hard time with,and felons caught with a gun goes straight to prison and do not pass GO, do not collect welfare or anything else. That's what works.

 

[bornaneer]

Libs are absolutely amazing. Chicago is out of control. Murders are out of control. Just yesterday, Emmanuel welcomed federal involvement.

Here is what the libs are really afraid of. If Trump acts, sends in the Feds, maybe the National Guard, and the murder rate begins to drops and over time, plummets. My guess is that those communities hardest hit in Chicago would welcome and thank Trump for his help. This scares libs to death that the strangle hold on the black vote could be jeopardized.

Thats exactly what it is about. If Trump were to somehow improve conditions in some of our cities it would be a death blow to the stranglehold the Dems have on that voting bloc. How anyone could denounce any kind of help to stop the genocide is beyond comprehension.

 

[Airport]

I know you have been waiting for this Chicago update.
And you question Trumps desire to help? Looks like someone (OB/GYN ? ) is manipulating whats left of your brain. Your are a ***** nut.
January to Date
Shot & Killed: 45
Shot & Wounded: 219
Total Shot: 264
Total Homicides: 46

Final 2016 Totals
Shot & Killed: 716
Shot & Wounded: 3663
Total Shot: 4379
Total Homicides: 798

One thing we can give Emanuel credit for is lowering the number of people who will be on government assistance rolls in the future. Maybe they look at it as a future cost cutting measure. Kinda like no cost of living increases for pensions.

 

[atlkvb]

Libs are absolutely amazing. Chicago is out of control. Murders are out of control. Just yesterday, Emmanuel welcomed federal involvement.

Here is what the libs are really afraid of. If Trump acts, sends in the Feds, maybe the National Guard, and the murder rate begins to drops and over time, plummets. My guess is that those communities hardest hit in Chicago would welcome and thank Trump for his help. This scares libs to death that the strangle hold on the black vote could be jeopardized.

It's ALWAYS what scares them about any initiative in the Black community they claim dominion over solving. Housing, crime, jobs, education...doesn't matter. The Left must be in "control" of the fix, otherwise it's a racist, sexist, homophobic, transgendered right wing plot to rob Blacks of their manifest destiny with the Left don't you know.

But ask them for their results?

 

[atlkvb]

One thing we can give Emanuel credit for is lowering the number of people who will be on government assistance rolls in the future. Maybe they look at it as a future cost cutting measure. Kinda like no cost of living increases for pensions.

That's the "Margaret Sanger" Planned Parenthood strategy for Blacks Airport!

 

[atlkvb]

I do the same thing when punishing my 4 yr old sometimes....I'm a weak liberal

My Grandkids would Love you as their sitter boom...easy pickin's!:wink:

 

[Boomboom521]

I'm personally uncomfortable with any President thinking they can use their position to control so many aspects of our nation. He is talking about controlling the market, business regulation and oversight, and now state run law enforcement. These are things Republicans were against, and also aspects of the Republican platform that I respected. But if the "right" leader comes along, I'm hearing Republicans are willing to shred their policy tenets in order to fix problems.

You're willing to allow Marshall law? Federal control of law enforcement in a major US city?
Is it because he's wealthy? Republican?

I don't think you would accept these things from a Democratic President at all.

 

[Boomboom521]

My Grandkids would Love you as their sitter boom...easy pickin's!:wink:

As with many things, I'm learning fast. Getting roughed up in the process, but learning.

 

[WVPATX]

Thats exactly what it is about. If Trump were to somehow improve conditions in some of our cities it would be a death blow to the stranglehold the Dems have on that voting bloc. How anyone could denounce any kind of help to stop the genocide is beyond comprehension.

Actually bornaneer, it is not unique for the Dems. They want open borders knowing the dangers this poses to the country because they want the votes. How could any reasonable person in the age of terrorism and knowing what flows across that border (e.g. drugs), could be against border security and knowing who is coming into our country? The answer is no one, except for Dems who want those votes.

 

[WhiteTailEER]

I'm personally uncomfortable with any President thinking they can use their position to control so many aspects of our nation. He is talking about controlling the market, business regulation and oversight, and now state run law enforcement. These are things Republicans were against, and also aspects of the Republican platform that I respected. But if the "right" leader comes along, in hearing Republicans are willing to shred their policy tenets in order to fix problems.

You're willing to allow Marshall law? Federal control of law enforcement in a major US city?
Is it because he's wealthy? Republican?

I don't think you would accept these things from a Democratic President at all.

If there's one thing I've learned it is that when it comes to politics there are very few people that actually have any real values of their own. They are against it when one party does it, but it's OK when their party does it. Either you have values and ideals or you don't. The political party in question should have nothing to do with your stance.

 

[Boomboom521]

Actually bornaneer, it is not unique for the Dems. They want open borders knowing the dangers this poses to the country because they want the votes. How could any reasonable person in the age of terrorism and knowing what flows across that border (e.g. drugs), could be against border security and knowing who is coming into our country? The answer is no one, except for Dems who want those votes.

You misinterpret what some mean as open boarders (and I'm sure you are referencing Clintons comments revealed by Wikileaks). It's a desire to create a safe and mutually beneficial world. It's idealistic and pie in the sky, but it's not what you are referring to at all.
Do you really think Dems are against boarder security in order to get votes? Its ridiculous.

 

[Boomboom521]

If there's one thing I've learned it is that when it comes to politics there are very few people that actually have any real values of their own. They are against it when one party does it, but it's OK when their party does it. Either you have values and ideals or you don't. The political party in question should have nothing to do with your stance.

I agree. It's a big reason why the two party system is a big part of the problem

 

[WVPATX]

You misinterpret what some mean as open boarders (and I'm sure you are referencing Clintons comments revealed by Wikileaks). It's a desire to create a safe and mutually beneficial world. It's idealistic and pie in the sky, but it's not what you are referring to at all.
Do you really think Dems are against boarder security in order to get votes? Its ridiculous.

Boom, wake up. Dems want open borders because they think Hispanics want open borders and they want that vote. I can guarantee you, if white Europeans who vote GOP were flowing across that border, the wall would have been built long ago.

 

[atlkvb]

He is talking about controlling the market, business regulation and oversight, and now state run law enforcement.

You're willing to allow Marshall law? Federal control of law enforcement in a major US city?

Where you see "control" boom, I see proactive responses to either a lack of Federal responsibility or overreach.

In the case of business operations, overreach. In the case of criminals running amok on our city streets, lack of resolve protecting the public safety of law abiding citizens. It's no different when rioters run out of control.

The Federal Government has no Constitutional authority to "force" privately run businesses into fiscal insolvency based on arbitrary rules and/or regulations.

Trump is adjusting that equation on both fronts you mentioned.

 

[countryroads89_rivals]

Thats exactly what it is about. If Trump were to somehow improve conditions in some of our cities it would be a death blow to the stranglehold the Dems have on that voting bloc. How anyone could denounce any kind of help to stop the genocide is beyond comprehension.

HAHAHAHA.

African Americans aren't going to vote GOP. Look around at all the racism following Trump. The skinheads, neo-Nazis and KKK have come crawling out of the woodwork in masses.

 

[bamaEER]

I'm personally uncomfortable with any President thinking they can use their position to control so many aspects of our nation. He is talking about controlling the market, business regulation and oversight, and now state run law enforcement. These are things Republicans were against, and also aspects of the Republican platform that I respected. But if the "right" leader comes along, I'm hearing Republicans are willing to shred their policy tenets in order to fix problems.

You're willing to allow Marshall law? Federal control of law enforcement in a major US city?
Is it because he's wealthy? Republican?

I don't think you would accept these things from a Democratic President at all.

I do commend Biff for trying to get things done, but he clearly doesn't know his boundaries. This issue with Chicago clearly shows this.

 

[WVMade]

Libs are absolutely amazing. Chicago is out of control. Murders are out of control. Just yesterday, Emmanuel welcomed federal involvement.

Here is what the libs are really afraid of. If Trump acts, sends in the Feds, maybe the National Guard, and the murder rate begins to drops and over time, plummets. My guess is that those communities hardest hit in Chicago would welcome and thank Trump for his help. This scares libs to death that the strangle hold on the black vote could be jeopardized.

Most sane intelligent people know this will be Trump's training ground to control the entire country. Sending in military forces to control citizens is how it's done in 3rd world dictatorships and communist countries imbecile, not the U.S.A.

 

[Boomboom521]

Boom, wake up. Dems want open borders because they think Hispanics want open borders and they want that vote. I can guarantee you, if white Europeans who vote GOP were flowing across that border, the wall would have been built long ago.

Cuban Americans vote GOP like crazy in Florida, I don't recall any massive liberal motion to stem the flow of Cubans to our shores. I know there were initiatives to prevent the hypocrisy of accepting Cuban refugees, but sending away Haitian refugees.

 

[WVPATX]

I'm personally uncomfortable with any President thinking they can use their position to control so many aspects of our nation. He is talking about controlling the market, business regulation and oversight, and now state run law enforcement. These are things Republicans were against, and also aspects of the Republican platform that I respected. But if the "right" leader comes along, I'm hearing Republicans are willing to shred their policy tenets in order to fix problems.

You're willing to allow Marshall law? Federal control of law enforcement in a major US city?
Is it because he's wealthy? Republican?

I don't think you would accept these things from a Democratic President at all.

Boom, what is Trump doing that Obama didn't do? Executive orders? Using legal means to help Chicago stop the carnage? So it is ok for Obama to regulate but Trump can 't then deregulate? What oversight are you talking about? Nothing about oversight of the executive branch has changed.

Marshall law? Are you serious? We have used the National Guard many times before. I don't know if he will do that, but I guarantee you that if he does it is both legal and will save lives. What I know he will do is order the Federal DA's in Chicago to take over cases of illegal gun possession and try them in federal court and send them to federal prisons. Getting them off the streets.

Boom, your letting you ideology undermine your thinking. Trump is following the law.

 

[auggiewv]

send them in, nothing is workig

 

[Boomboom521]

Boom, what is Trump doing that Obama didn't do? Executive orders? Using legal means to help Chicago stop the carnage? So it is ok for Obama to regulate but Trump can 't then deregulate? What oversight are you talking about? Nothing about oversight of the executive branch has changed.

Marshall law? Are you serious? We have used the National Guard many times before. I don't know if he will do that, but I guarantee you that if he does it is both legal and will save lives. What I know he will do is order the Federal DA's in Chicago to take over cases of illegal gun possession and try them in federal court and send them to federal prisons. Getting them off the streets.

Boom, your letting you ideology undermine your thinking. Trump is following the law.

State elected officials should be in control of law enforcement in their cities, if they need help let them ask for it....then I have no issue.

 

[countryroads89_rivals]

If there's one thing I've learned it is that when it comes to politics there are very few people that actually have any real values of their own. They are against it when one party does it, but it's OK when their party does it. Either you have values and ideals or you don't. The political party in question should have nothing to do with your stance.

Contradiction between Chicago and Malheurn (before Boom started posting, he'll find this amusing). The right wingers on this board were pretty upset when the FBI was considering a raid on Malheurn when the Bundys basically confiscated a federal facility.

 

[Boomboom521]

Mobilizing the national guard should be used only when crisis creates the need (again this is questionable in Chicago, and would be his grounds for initiating the action). Or when a federal law is not being enforced by state law enforcement. This isn't a case of bias in law enforcement, it's a case of saying "it's not working, so we are going to come in a do it our way"....imo, it's a violation of States Rights (something I would like to see more of not less - and a pillar in Republican ideology if I'm not mistaken).

 

[WVPATX]

I do commend Biff for trying to get things done, but he clearly doesn't know his boundaries. This issue with Chicago clearly shows this.

Bama, you clearly do not know the law. Trump has several tools at his disposal and the Lib mayor welcomes Federal involvement. The carnage must stop.

Sessions could order Federal DA's to prosecute all cases of illegal weapons possession, in federal not state court. If convicted, they would be sent to federal prison. Today, if an illegal weapons case is brought, the state tries them and most often they are released from state prison in 3 months or so.

Trump could also send in the Guard to help the police patrol the streets, until the gang violence is under control. Perfectly legal and most in Chicago would welcome the additional help.