UK/UNC Game Thread

Mac9192

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We've all laughed at Luke but we're the ones that has their bigs clapping on the bench.
It's because Dukes bigs don't practice well. Earn your time by practicing well some say. Not me. Kid has heart and works his tail off and his coach rewards him with pt. He was in game and Hicks and Bradley weren't
 

Laettner

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unc won because they beat the defense down the court twice. jackson's break away and maye's winning shot. How did UK allow that to happen when they know well just like everyone that's hwat unc does. OFC

Experience was key there, young guys make those mistakes.
 

Dukesince90

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I have to give Luke Maye credit. He's worked his tail off and reshaped his body. I hate the Holes, but have to respect the kids hard work.
 
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MikeD2891

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Exactly how many teams are going to let Jackson get wide open across the court near the end of the game. I think that's the third time in the last month or so where he's done that successfully.
 

pisgah101

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I wish we had three star bugs that K would let play and then make huge game winning shots... embarrassing that UNC develops these guys and we rot 5 stars
 
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pisgah101

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For those that think Carolina for sure wins have had their head in the sand. The other three teams there have looked like world beaters this tourney and Carolina looks lucky.
 

timo0402

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For those that think Carolina for sure wins have had their head in the sand. The other three teams there have looked like world beaters this tourney and Carolina looks lucky.
So I should put the house on unc then? Done. Going to be in vegas next weekend anyway.

On a serious note, as much as it pains me congrats to the holes and specifically luke maye who I hope stands as a test case for this board going forward. Karma is a *****.
 

pisgah101

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So I should put the house on unc then? Done. Going to be in vegas next weekend anyway.

On a serious note, as much as it pains me congrats to the holes and specifically luke maye who I hope stands as a test case for this board going forward. Karma is a *****.

:rolleyes:
 

germantondevil

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I'm really starting to not like all these OADs dominating the rosters. I wish Duke would go back to more of the 4 year players. That's why Ore and UNCheat move on and U.K. And Duke will watch theFF
 

Dukesince90

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I still think we had the right combination of veteran players this year and OADs. It was just a dysfunctional season with all the injuries and K's surgery. We were fortunate to win the ACC Tournament, that just probably gave us all some false hope of cutting the nets down in April.
I know it did that to me.
 

pisgah101

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I enjoy giving you a hard time on your predictions, you're also a good sport on taking it haha.

Lol most of my predictions are what I want to happen... like harry, Grayson, Luke coming back HA and I never think Carolina will win till they do! So usually I'm wrong but when I'm right I'm double happy :D
 
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MikeD2891

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I'm really starting to not like all these OADs dominating the rosters. I wish Duke would go back to more of the 4 year players. That's why Ore and UNCheat move on and U.K. And Duke will watch theFF

Yeah but these teams who don't go the OAD route, don't always advance every year either. I don't think there's proof either way as to whether or not the OAD route works. I fully believe had we started the season with zero injuries, we would have been dominating teams and still be in it after this weekend.
 
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DukeDenver

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I'm really starting to not like all these OADs dominating the rosters. I wish Duke would go back to more of the 4 year players. That's why Ore and UNCheat move on and U.K. And Duke will watch theFF
Seems like selective memory. Why not get both? There's some element of luck involved.
 

DFerryFan

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I'm really starting to not like all these OADs dominating the rosters. I wish Duke would go back to more of the 4 year players. That's why Ore and UNCheat move on and U.K. And Duke will watch theFF
But Tatum was the only OAD that got playing time. Jones is a senior, Amile is a grad student, Grayson is a junior, Luke is a sophomore, Frank and Giles are freshmen. Two of these guys have already won a championship. When was the last time that happen? We just got the curse of injuries for the majority of the season. Winning the ACC tourney just built our hopes up. But look back to 2015, we had 3 starters that ended up being OADs, although I guess you could argue that no one knew Stones and Winslow were going to leave after one year. I wouldn't blame this season on having too many OADs since they hardly played anyway. Unfortunately, it was just injuries.

Although, I do miss the 90s. You could actually see potential in your players and have an expectation for the next season. Now, it's largely a crapshoot.
 

Dad2ze

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Lol most of my predictions are what I want to happen... like harry, Grayson, Luke coming back HA and I never think Carolina will win till they do! So usually I'm wrong but when I'm right I'm double happy :D
Just stop prediciting already. This is all your fault!!!!
 
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I said this on OOTB, I take back every bad thing I ever said about Luke Maye. Hell many of our own fans said some pretty rough **** about him this whole year. He's become a fine player, and that shot is going to be remembered for a long time.
 
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timo0402

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Lol most of my predictions are what I want to happen... like harry, Grayson, Luke coming back HA and I never think Carolina will win till they do! So usually I'm wrong but when I'm right I'm double happy :D
Well you are due! Hopefully that happens sat.
 
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germantondevil

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We didn't rely on OADs so much this year, 2015 was special but they also had that one battle tested senior that bailed them out a lot but you do watch U.K. Year in and year out getting bounced every year even when they are pre season number one just about every season. You have to have those players that has been thru the grind already. Without a few surprises Duke will be relying heavily on 1 year players next year and that isn't good IMO
 

thaUNCshow

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I hate you guys because i have to. But i at least respect that Duke does it the right way. No one can truly love college basketball and respect what Kentucky is doing to it. If it was Duke matching up against them today I wouldve been happy to see Duke win.
 

Kingbluedevil

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I think it has little to do with one and dones but a lot to do with defense and toughness. All these teams left can play defense. I hate to watch all the hacking South Carolina does but they give it all on every play.
 

SoCal Dukie

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Luke Maye has played well. That being said, he is still a 3 star player that is surrounded by guys who are actually being focused on. I am not going to praise him too much until he starts becoming all ACC and starting next year.

I never thought I would say this - UK was hosed. The fact they lost by 2 at the end is even more painful for them for sure. UNC better hope the refs bail them out against Oregon. They will attack UNC consistently!
 

dukiejay

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Congrats to UNC and hats off to Luke Maye. They don't win without him tonight.

UK built that five-point lead then just couldn't get a stop or a score. Monk hit some tough shots to get it back to even, but their defense fell asleep twice in the last couple minutes and they paid for it.

Clearly, the Heels are now the overwhelming favorites. Damn.
 

SoCal Dukie

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Congrats to UNC and hats off to Luke Maye. They don't win without him tonight.

UK built that five-point lead then just couldn't get a stop or a score. Monk hit some tough shots to get it back to even, but their defense fell asleep twice in the last couple minutes and they paid for it.

Clearly, the Heels are now the overwhelming favorites. Damn.

I have a feeling that Oregon smacks UNCheat right in the mouth and grinds out a W.....am I crazy?
 
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Oregon and Gonzaga will both give UNC a really tough game in my opinion. Last season, UNC was the uncrowned champs as the tournament progressed and we all know how that turned out.
 

Quavarius

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Even though I hate that UNC won, I don't feel bad for UK especially when some of their fans wished Harry Giles would get re-injured at the beginning of the season.
 

skysdad

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I said this on OOTB, I take back every bad thing I ever said about Luke Maye. Hell many of our own fans said some pretty rough **** about him this whole year. He's become a fine player, and that shot is going to be remembered for a long time.


I take it back too. He's worked very hard and has become a factor. OFC
 
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youngman42

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Calipari should have called a time out to set the D. He should have known Roy hates calling TOs.

That game was the one hope to stop UNC. No way any of those three teams there beat UNC. Matchups are not good for those teams vs UNC. I think KU would have had a great shot at beating UNC but just don't see Oregon beating them.

And, in the title game - no way they lose to either the Zags or SC. The game is too big for SC and they are too small. And, the Zags just aren't as good to complete with UNC.

It really sucks.
 

topps coach

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It's because Dukes bigs don't practice well. Earn your time by practicing well some say. Not me. Kid has heart and works his tail off and his coach rewards him with pt. He was in game and Hicks and Bradley weren't
So you think Roy would have been playing him if he did not practice well and K does not play people even if they practice well?
 

Showenuff

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Nov 21, 2006
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I thought this was neat....

Duke and Coach K really need to change up they way they do things because in the last 20 years _________ has won more national championships.

Duke and Coach K really need to change up they way they do things because in the last 10 years _________ has won more national championships.

Duke and Coach K really need to change up they way they do things because Coach _________ at _________ has won more national championships.
 
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denverexpat

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So you think Roy would have been playing him if he did not practice well and K does not play people even if they practice well?

The whole notion that Coach K rewards practice play with playing time is a flawed concept imo. There is no way that any player on the roster does not give 100% in practice throughout the year. With the number of coaches and the intense scrutiny on the players there is no coasting in practice. Plus players like White, Vrank, Obi, Robinson and delaurier all know they have to out compete the others to play and are competitive players by nature given their past accomplishments. Given these circumstances it would be hard for them not to give maximum effort. The PT balance has more to do with the OAD's and the promises of the chance to play that year which consequently reflects on the incoming recruiting prospects and their choices. If potential 5 star recruits see high level players sitting and not playing then they may choose to go elsewhere.

Its a tough balance but one Duke's recent recruiting has chosen to take on.
I also believe this is why we are seeing the abnormal increase in transfers.
To be recruited at Duke is a players dream but when reality of very limited PT sets in....they move on because they want to play.
 
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Mac9192

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So you think Roy would have been playing him if he did not practice well and K does not play people even if they practice well?
No I'm not. Roy manages his guys differently, that's all. K seems more comfortable with a short bench, that's his style, he gives guys that he feels more confident in the minutes. My point has been that practice is not the only guage to determine ones playing time. Yes I'm not there to see if a guy is lazy or not during practice, but we are all speculating by what we see on the court during games. I'm not debating your coaching ability at all, but if you coached all those years as you claim, surely you had at least one player during all those years that surprised you in the game. There is a difference between practice speed and game speed as well