Oh I would most definitely take him over Pope. I was just saying between donovan/ lloyd or any other good college coachI agree, but not as risking as a guy that averages 12 losses a year and has never won a conference championship.
Oh I would most definitely take him over Pope. I was just saying between donovan/ lloyd or any other good college coachI agree, but not as risking as a guy that averages 12 losses a year and has never won a conference championship.
There is no one left in the coaching tree that isn't retired or completely unproven.Who does the UNC fanbase want as a coach? Do they want to keep it in the UNC family coaching tree?
This isn't my conversation or anything, but I've got a question. Isn't openly trolling ban worthy? That one guy that likes wrestling has had 150 accounts in the last decade I've been around this board.I'm not downplaying anything. I told you a bit ago I didn't see anything ban worthy for them.
Why would Donovan be so risky. He has been out of college for 12 years after taking his team to the final 4 in 2014. He did not forget the game and he understands how to coach and coach at a high level. A 2-time National Champion with NBA coaching experience to attract players. I do not see anything risky in Billy Donovan. I just hope he does not end up at UNC. UK should have hired him when they hired Tubby. I understand he turned UK down when they hired BCG and why would he leave a program coming off back-to-back National titles. I have said many times Rick Pitino is the best UK coach of my lifetime and if Donovan ever became the UK Coach he would start out as 2nd behind Pitino with a chance to pass his past Coach. He is that good. Should have never left the college game.I agree, but not as risking as a guy that averages 12 losses a year and has never won a conference championship.
Yeah, I can't imagine anyone thinking Donovan can't suddenly coach now. That's pretty silly honestly. It's not like he hasn't been coaching. In fact, he's been coaching in the NBA. And he's been fairly good in the 10+ years. That guy would kill it at UNC. My hope is, he somehow doesn't wind up at UNC and the Bulls fire him. Then it's just a year waiting on him watching Pope do whatever it is Pope does.An excellent Xs and Os coach doesn't suddenly forget that. And that's what Donovan is. What he did at Florida, during a time that the SEC was widely regarded as a bunch of scrubs that Kentucky could just beat up every year, was very impressive.
If you don't want Donovan, I'll happily take him. With no buyout, that's just more money we can give the GM for NIL.
Duly noted.
You should ask to speak to the managerYou banned me for saying way less than I've said before and it was towards a known troll . But instead of just deleting the post like you've done plenty of times you banned me. Which is fine if we pick and choose day to day what's ban worthy.
I'm ok with the ban. But to ban me like I said that to a good poster is crazy to me. It's not like I told fox2monk go fck himself...or cowtown or farsight or any of the many good posters. By good posters I mean obvious UK fans .... It was friggin sechonk or whatever his name ....
But there's no issue. Just think it's odd when I've said way worse. But it was ok then because I was probably saying it toward the fan base and not a troll .
Or make it his own thing. That's what Nate Oats is doing.Because competitive people don’t run from pressure — they chase it.
If a Sweet 16 gets you worshipped somewhere else, fine. But at a blueblood, the standard is higher, and that’s where the best are supposed to want to be.
Pretty low bar set.$10,000 says they get a coach with a better background and more success than Pope.
It's not always about the money. Sometimes it's about everything else. Several years ago I had a job offer that doubled my salary. I turned it down because of the required travel and a much higher stress level. I'm glad I turned it down.
A four year contact nets $48M.Depends on how you look at it. Gotta remember these are humans with families and a personal life.
Triple it. 12 million. How many years? Or 4 million for life being able to relax 24/7. And of course if he's winning that 4 million will go up no doubt
4 million is plenty for a lot of people. And if they won a title I'm sure they would double that. I do believe his family could disown him. I've seen it done for way less.A four year contact nets $48M.
He would have to work 12 years in Ames to make the same.
There is also that pesky time value of money thing. His family should disown him if he turned down that kind of contract because of warm and fuzzies.
$4 Million is the difference between his kids having to work again.4 million is plenty for a lot of people. And if they won a title I'm sure they would double that. I do believe his family could disown him. I've seen it done for way less.
The donovan slurp is so confusing . Who the hell knows if he will still be a good college coach. That's as risky as having a team full of blown out acl players that should be back by Christmas.
I can answer this because I've had this conversation with my daughter. It is a generational thing. The younger generation uses that word freely and doesn't see anything wrong with it. My generation considers that word to be anathema. The safe play on a chat board is to avoid the word because this is a family friendly board. Even if you see nothing wrong with the word, it is still offensive to some. Just my 2 cents.Well I'll ask you. Do you think it's acceptable to hit known trolls with f bombs lol
Oats said no. Correct?Right now Otz is the only tier 1 candidate to say No.
Donovan, Lloyd, and May remain.
Donovan and Lloyd have supposedly expressed interest.
I also did the same but then my daughter talked me into taking the positon. I ended up very glad I did. Having said that, your point is solid. It isn't about the money. There are higher considerations.It's not always about the money. Sometimes it's about everything else. Several years ago I had a job offer that doubled my salary. I turned it down because of the required travel and a much higher stress level. I'm glad I turned it down.
Twenty years ago. I said still be good. He was great no doubt. Your post is showing 20 years ago when top draft picks decided to stay in college.If only there were a way to determine if Donovan would be successful at the college level.
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Hed make 12 million. What's Pope making coaching the number one program in the land?$4 Million is the difference between his kids having to work again.
$12 Million is difference between any Otzelberger working again.
There are levels to this.
I didn't say coaching the bulls would make him a bad college coach. It's been forever since he's been a college coach. Who knows if he would be any good? You don't. You think he will I'm assuming.This take makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. He’s currently coaching the Chicago Bulls! Why would that make him a bad college coach? Like what? “Why do you think this guy that’s been teaching math at Harvard would know how to teach HS math?!” Like what in the world are you people talking about
What is the reason for thinking he wouldn’t be any good though? He’s literally been coaching at a higher level. What is the reason for thinking he would be worse going back to a lower level? I guess I don’t really follow the logic behind that thought.I didn't say coaching the bulls would make him a bad college coach. It's been forever since he's been a college coach. Who knows if he would be any good? You don't. You think he will I'm assuming.
Oats is not a tier 1 candidate. His buyout, and his players' off the court issues, have him much further down the list.Oats said no. Correct?
They won’t be the assistant for longThe Mormon connection between Pope and UK's assitant athletic director is why Pope got the job.
Be honest...Raise your hand if you had to Google "anathema".I can answer this because I've had this conversation with my daughter. It is a generational thing. The younger generation uses that word freely and doesn't see anything wrong with it. My generation considers that word to be anathema. The safe play on a chat board is to avoid the word because this is a family friendly board. Even if you see nothing wrong with the word, it is still offensive to some. Just my 2 cents.
What is the reason for thinking he wouldn’t be any good though? He’s literally been coaching at a higher level. What is the reason for thinking he would be worse going back to a lower level? I guess I don’t really follow the logic behind that thought.
I'm not sure on what basis he should have been hired over Tubby at that time. Billy had gone 35-20 in two years at Marshall and 13-17 in his first season at Florida at that point.Why would Donovan be so risky. He has been out of college for 12 years after taking his team to the final 4 in 2014. He did not forget the game and he understands how to coach and coach at a high level. A 2-time National Champion with NBA coaching experience to attract players. I do not see anything risky in Billy Donovan. I just hope he does not end up at UNC. UK should have hired him when they hired Tubby. I understand he turned UK down when they hired BCG and why would he leave a program coming off back-to-back National titles. I have said many times Rick Pitino is the best UK coach of my lifetime and if Donovan ever became the UK Coach he would start out as 2nd behind Pitino with a chance to pass his past Coach. He is that good. Should have never left the college game.
Well I'll ask you. Do you think it's acceptable to hit known trolls with f bombs lol
I agree but he was on the list that I saw in the top 4 for UNC. We have a lot of fans who would kill to get him here . I am not one of them. But, it is irrelevant. He took his name out of consideration but that does show that he knew his name was being thrown around by some people who said that they had inside info.Oats is not a tier 1 candidate. His buyout, and his players' off the court issues, have him much further down the list.
Yes, if you’re a member of the Manson family.…because this is a family friendly board.
Post of the Day!!!! I didn't see that coming at all.Yes, if you’re a member of the Manson family.
That was rhetorical. You’re more annoying than the troll.I tried
I bet.That was rhetorical. You’re more annoying than the troll.
Not sure what list you saw, but he has never been among UNC's top 4.I agree but he was on the list that I saw in the top 4 for UNC.
Man that would suck if they get Lloyd.Byington signed an extension today. Goodman thinks Dusty May won't take it.
There's some chatter that Lloyd is the guy but if they keep winning things get iffy with the timeframe as far as the portal and whatnot.