Unconfirmed rumor Schiano on the clock
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Winston Churchill said that Democracy is the worst form of government, except for all the other forms of government.
It's the same with Greg Schiano. He is the worst coach, except for all the other realistic candidates.
It's the same with Greg Schiano. He is the worst coach, except for all the other realistic candidates.
Breakdown the first 6 years versus the second 6 years.
Apparently he was so scared of playing good teams that he escaped to the NFL right?
Because he a graduate and one of the most successful alums who donates his free time and lots of money to a university he loves. He doesn't need to do any of that. He could donate his time to some global relief organization and not deal with people like you questioning his loyalty/capabilities.
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And after the Terry Shea muck was cleaned out, how did he do? Welcome back!
Remember when Illinois, a B1G team could not cross the 50 against a Greg Schiano defense?
BE: 7-27 in the first 5 years, 21-21 over the following 6.
ALL: 19-39 in the first 5 years, 49-28 over the following 6.
Well....you're looking in the wrong place.
You'll get just respectability...and you'll like it.
That Illinois team went 2-10 and lost to Syracuse and Ohio U (not OSU) at home.
Against a neutered Big East and national powers Norfolk State, Howard, Tulane, UNH, and NC Central.
Can't say I'm surprised that some of the biggest Floodies also happen to be the biggest people slamming a potential Schiano hire.
Schiano gave us a program to be proud of, and laid the groundwork to be where we are today. We should be so lucky to have him back to take us to the next level.
Hey, his scheduling record is his scheduling record. You're not arguing with me. You're arguing with history.
In any event, based on how things worked out in Tampa, seems like maybe he should've stuck w/scheduling cupcakes.
That was 2004. I think G-RUnit was referring to 2006.
MSU was also garbage in 2006; also going 1-7 in conference play.
2004 was also the year of the UNH dud, so I think that accomplishment is effectively invalidated.
Wow.
And at what point did I "question his loyalty" or how much he donates? I'll patiently wait for an answer...
OR you could just continue putting words in my mouth since that seems to be your thing.
Schiano SCHEDULED wins. Usually only played 8 total BCS opponents. 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011 were ALL 8 BCS opponents seasons. During 2009 Rutgers played TWO (2) D-1 AA opponents. Schiano was winless against West Virginia in 11 games. Good to very good coaches kick Schiano's backside.
I agree with your first sentence. And he'd be an upgrade over Flood and crew. But I don't think he can take us to the next level.
Ha, great gif. Because you said, why should you "trust" Brown. If you don't trust someone, then you are either questioning his loyalty or his capabilities or both. I was referring more to trust from a loyalty perspective while you may have been focused on the capabilities side. I used the donation point to provide evidence of his loyalty to the university and a reason he could be trusted. It is possible that I misinterpreted your post. Either way, who gives a *(*t. Let move on to bigger and better things with a new admin.
Wow.
And at what point did I "question his loyalty" or how much he donates? I'll patiently wait for an answer...
OR you could just continue putting words in my mouth since that seems to be your thing.
U do realize he was 2-20 his first 2 years when he took over a program that was close to extinction?
Correct. Despite the most epic Leonard Leap EVER!!!, we managed to blow a huge lead at Illinois in '04 or '05. I long-ago decided to remember the leap and forget the rest of the afternoon.
Can 28-48 in the Big East be argued? What about no wins against WVU? No conference titles?
Where did I ever support Flood?
1. The guy who turned around the worst football program in history.
2. The guy who gave it it's branding and identity.
3. Helped push for facility upgrades and stadium expansion.
4. Put countless of players in the NFL with his preparation.
5. Became an NFL coach and will be sitting in a kid's living room with this fact in hand on the recruiting trail.
6. Will at the very least make us competitive and steer the ship right. Better bowl appearances even if it's not the Rose Bowl in the first few years.
Nah, I don't want that guy.
2. The guy who gave it it's branding and identity.
3. Helped push for facility upgrades and stadium expansion.
4. Put countless of players in the NFL with his preparation.
5. Became an NFL coach and will be sitting in a kid's living room with this fact in hand on the recruiting trail.
6. Will at the very least make us competitive and steer the ship right. Better bowl appearances even if it's not the Rose Bowl in the first few years.
Nah, I don't want that guy.
I'd say more like 50/50. GS was a fantastic program builder and a great defensive mind. After that, I'm not seeing a whole lot of greatness. We're playing in an incredibly tough sub-division of one of the best football conferences in the country. We're going to need some greatness or we're going to continue to be mediocre.
I think we need to either pony up and spend $10M for a huge name (almost no chance of this I'm afraid) or we should do our homework and hire an up-and-comer w/a proven track record of winning against tougher competition at the level they've coached so far.
I don't actually have anything against Schiano other than that I think he had his chance and I'd rather not go down that route again. I see Golden and Cristobal as similar situations to Schiano; they had their chance and one needs to make excuses for their records in order to hire them.
Compare that to the Pre-Schiano years.
He built the program from the worst program in Div. 1 to relevant to B1G. There is no B1G without Schiano. In 5 years when Rutgers is bringing in 40 million per year in B1G money....they should send Schiano his finders fee.
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Very well then. Let us watch the offseason madness unfold.
[cheers]