Unemployment rate at 4.9%. Thanks Obama! Remeber when Romney...

[countryroads89_rivals]

Those hilljacks you speak of vote democrat because they want free stuff. How many of your brethren are voting for Bernie just to get free stuff? All of them, you included. And if you think Democrats are responsible for the recoveries, think again. Clinton gets credit but it was Bush's policies that gave us all those supposed great years under Clinton. And Obama did something alright, his stupid policies and inability to manage wasted billions of our tax dollars.

In WV, those hilljacks just put a Republican state legislature in office. A legislature that has already made us a Right to Work state and has eliminated Prevailing Wage. Two policies that will keep hard-working, blue collar folks from being able to provide a living for their families. Now they'll go on welfare and food stamps and not contribute to income tax, SS and medicare and medicaid. And it's really intelligent of you to assume "I want free stuff". I can assure you I make a lot more money than you. Hell, I probably pay more in annual taxes than you make in a year. The Democrats have been responsible for all the major recoveries. Did you ever take a history class? Ever hear of Hoovervilles? The economy always does better under Democratic presidents. Obama has kept us out of more needless wars where we hemorrhage money. You are an idiot. Why don't you provide some relevant facts to support your position?

 

[Mntneer]

Why don't you provide some relevant facts to support your position?

I'm still waiting on you to provide your "facts".

Right to work and Wage Scale is going to kill this state? Prove it.

 

[countryroads89_rivals]

I'm still waiting on you to provide your "facts".

Right to work and Wage Scale is going to kill this state? Prove it.

Reading comprehension, try it: here is what I just said above. "Two policies that will keep hard-working, blue collar folks from being able to provide a living for their families. Now they'll go on welfare and food stamps and not contribute to income tax, SS and medicare and medicaid."

Right to Work is touted as being one of the best things since sliced bread. Wisconsin has had it for a year and is seeing absolutely no increase in business activity and no gains in employment.

 

[WVUBRU]

Reading comprehension, try it: here is what I just said above. "Two policies that will keep hard-working, blue collar folks from being able to provide a living for their families. Now they'll go on welfare and food stamps and not contribute to income tax, SS and medicare and medicaid."

Right to Work is touted as being one of the best things since sliced bread. Wisconsin has had it for a year and is seeing absolutely no increase in business activity and no gains in employment.

Correct. It is more of "trickle-down economic theory" which never works but you won't get any of these knuckleheads to understand. They believe what they believe as they love fairytales.

 

[Mntneer]

Reading comprehension, try it: here is what I just said above. "Two policies that will keep hard-working, blue collar folks from being able to provide a living for their families. Now they'll go on welfare and food stamps and not contribute to income tax, SS and medicare and medicaid."

Right to Work is touted as being one of the best things since sliced bread. Wisconsin has had it for a year and is seeing absolutely no increase in business activity and no gains in employment.

Ummm.... those aren't facts. That's conjecture. Like me saying, "Virginia is Right to Work and has no Wage Scale and thrives."

 

[countryroads89_rivals]

Ummm.... those aren't facts. That's conjecture. Like me saying, "Virginia is Right to Work and has no Wage Scale and thrives."

Wisconsin has had it for a year (fact). They are seeing no increase in business activity (fact). The employment rate in Wisconsin hasn't increased (fact) and the unemployment rate hasn't decreased (fact).

Now, maybe one year isn't long enough (I won't argue that). When you look at a map of the US and the right to work states,

, (picture is outdated) you can't say that the Right to Work states are thriving, or doing any better, than the other states. That's the lie that this state has just swallowed, hook line and sinker.

How has Michigan's economy done since March 2013, when they became the 24th Right to Work state?

 

[dave]

I I can assure you I make a lot more money than you. Hell, I probably pay more in annual taxes than you make in a year.

I seriously doubt that is the case with almost anyone here.

 

[dave]

Wisconsin has had it for a year (fact). They are seeing no increase in business activity (fact). The employment rate in Wisconsin hasn't increased (fact) and the unemployment rate hasn't decreased (fact).

Now, maybe one year isn't long enough (I won't argue that). When you look at a map of the US and the right to work states,

, (picture is outdated) you can't say that the Right to Work states are thriving, or doing any better, than the other states. That's the lie that this state has just swallowed, hook line and sinker.

How has Michigan's economy done since March 2013, when they became the 24th Right to Work state?

Wisconsin signed RTW in March of 2015. Hell they haven't had enough time to break the unions completely yet. Give it time.

http://www.freep.com/story/money/bu...s-continued-growth-michigan-economy/76061718/

 

[countryroads89_rivals]

Wisconsin signed RTW in March of 2015. Hell they haven't had enough time to break the unions completely yet. Give it time.

http://www.freep.com/story/money/bu...s-continued-growth-michigan-economy/76061718/

Forecasts? Hell, we can forecast anything we want. How has their (Michigan) economy done in the last three years since they have been a RTW state? I think three years is long enough.

 

[dave]

Forecasts? Hell, we can forecast anything we want. How has their (Michigan) economy done in the last three years since they have been a RTW state? I think three years is long enough.

Well, you keep demanding reading comprehension from everyone so I will just leave you with "Forcast Continued Growth" and call it explained.

 

[countryroads89_rivals]

Well, you keep demanding reading comprehension from everyone so I will just leave you with "Forcast Continued Growth" and call it explained.

The result? Michigan's economy "has been on a bit of a roll for the past five or six years," George Fulton, who is director of U-M's Research Seminar in Quantitative Economics, said in a statement. "And the state appears to be poised to continue the ride for a while longer, although perhaps not at the same pace."

So, it has NOTHING to do with RTW. AMIRIGHT?

And here's the really bad news, which is more directly related to RTW than the state's economy (which is highly dependent on the nation's economy - auto sales):
"While the forecast is cause for optimism, the U-M economists caution that Michigan ranks "closer to the caboose than to the engine" in important economic measures including as per capita income and educational attainment."

 

[dave]

The result? Michigan's economy "has been on a bit of a roll for the past five or six years," George Fulton, who is director of U-M's Research Seminar in Quantitative Economics, said in a statement. "And the state appears to be poised to continue the ride for a while longer, although perhaps not at the same pace."

So, it has NOTHING to do with RTW. AMIRIGHT?

And here's the really bad news, which is more directly related to RTW than the state's economy (which is highly dependent on the nation's economy - auto sales):
"While the forecast is cause for optimism, the U-M economists caution that Michigan ranks "closer to the caboose than to the engine" in important economic measures including as per capita income and educational attainment."

Spin Away. You asked how it was doing and it was doing well. No amount of faulty logic can change the facts.

 

[bornaneer]

In WV, those hilljacks just put a Republican state legislature in office. A legislature that has already made us a Right to Work state and has eliminated Prevailing Wage. The Democrats have been responsible for all the major recoveries. Did you ever take a history class? Why don't you provide some relevant facts to support your position?

Evidently you spent all your time in English classes and missed all your History classes, especially WV History. Do you even have a clue WHAT PARTY has made West Virginia the laughingstock of the country? You and your Democrat cronies had your chance and blew it. It's fuking bad that we still have a good ol boy in the govs office that HAS and WILL block any progressive steps that will move WV forward. I guess you think being last in EVERY measure of achievement is evidence of a job well done. I guess you must miss all those trinkets that past WV state politicians sent you over the years.

 

[countryroads89_rivals]

Evidently you spent all you time in English classes and missed all your History classes, especially WV History. Do you even have a clue WHAT PARTY has made West Virginia the laughingstock of the country? You and your Democrat cronies had your chance and blew it. It's fuking bad that we still have a good ol boy in the govs office that HAS and WILL block any progressive steps that will move WV forward. I guess you think being last in EVERY measure of achievement is evidence of a job well done. I guess you must miss all those trinkets that past WV state politicians sent you over the years.

Don't get your panties in a wad over the governor. He plans vetoes but since WV is in the dark ages with regard to the governor's veto power, it takes a simple majority to override his veto. So, in the near future, WV will be a RTW state, will eliminate prevailing wage and will now allow concealed carry with no permit or training. That bill just passed the House today.

 

[Mntneer]

Wisconsin has had it for a year (fact). They are seeing no increase in business activity (fact). The employment rate in Wisconsin hasn't increased (fact) and the unemployment rate hasn't decreased (fact).

Now, maybe one year isn't long enough (I won't argue that). When you look at a map of the US and the right to work states,

, (picture is outdated) you can't say that the Right to Work states are thriving, or doing any better, than the other states. That's the lie that this state has just swallowed, hook line and sinker.

How has Michigan's economy done since March 2013, when they became the 24th Right to Work state?

1) Correlation does not imply Causation. 2) 1 year is not nearly enough time to judge the impact of RTW in Wisconsin.

WV has been handled the same way by the same party for nearly half a century. What has it gotten us? It's only the second year we've seen a Rep controlled Congress in this state, and it's way too early to tell the impact they will have.

 

[bornaneer]

Don't get your panties in a wad over the governor. He plans vetoes but since WV is in the dark ages with regard to the governor's veto power, it takes a simple majority to override his veto. So, in the near future, WV will be a RTW state, will eliminate prevailing wage and will now allow concealed carry with no permit or training. That bill just passed the House today.

All I ask is that you give the Repubs in WV more time. One year vs. decades is not a fair comparison. After all, we have nowhere to go but up.

 

[dave]

Don't get your panties in a wad over the governor. He plans vetoes but since WV is in the dark ages with regard to the governor's veto power, it takes a simple majority to override his veto. So, in the near future, WV will be a RTW state, will eliminate prevailing wage and will now allow concealed carry with no permit or training. That bill just passed the House today.

Apparently now that people will have the right to work without being forced to join a union and pay dues the entire state is doomed. I can understand why union suits would be upset.

 

[ColoradoMountaineer]

There you have it. The economy has improved despite Obama. Big shock. Is there any intellectual honesty left among Republicans? We all know your party denies science-especially climate change and evolution. It looks as though the GOP now denies reality as well. Thanks for playing wingnuts.

You forgot to mention gas prices i like pay

What do government handouts have to do with my post? I'll tell you what is relevant about government handouts: when people try to live off $8 an hour in rural and suburban areas and gas prices rise to almost $5 a gallon, even the less educated hilljacks that have been duped into voting Republican can figure out they can have a better living staying at home collecting a check rather than driving back and forth to work paying for that overpriced gasoline and food (because the high gas prices made everything else rise in cost, but you right wingers forgot about that, and it wasn't gradual, it was practically overnight).

Your post typifies the condescending right wing approach to the less fortunate.

That's a typical lying slant, "Obama has nothing to do with the recovery". His first order of business was saving the collapsing economy. We can debate all day about how effective his stimulus packages were, but he did something and he damn well gets credit for saving the economy.

The two biggest recessions in America occurred under Republican presidents. FACT!
The two recoveries in America occurred under Democratic presidents. FACT!

Never understood why they call themselves conservatives. The last 2 republican presidents really did a great job when it came to increasing the deficit. whatever the reason for the term conservative it has nothing to do with spending money