Up and coming coordinators

vkj91

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Getting Matias was amazing given the touching story about how and why he chose RU made a nice human interest story....I thought someone offered his humble family a dufflebag full of large bills to get them to switch....I lost a lot of respect for our recruiting to lose him after devoting so much time love and energy into the kid and honestly didn't and still don't wish him good fortune...I know it ain't right but such is being an RU fan. Thanks for the info.
Sadly, I remember exactly where I was when he decommited. I need a better hobby....
 
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I do not have any links, because it wasn't public information. If you want to tweet Temple's editor John DiCarlo @jdicarlo I'm sure he will tell you it's true. Phil Snow was the DC at Boise, ASU, UCLA, and Washington, so I have no need to lie about CU and WSU offering him the position. Also, again, Rhule makes $1.5M.
It's not Rhule's salary I asked about, it's Phil Snow's.
 

vkj91

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I'd take a Solid coordinator in a heartbeat. He needs to be able to recruit though. A younger, high energy guy who can relate to the nj top prospects.

This whole family angle doesn't work with those kids. It's not the south Flood.
Cliches work when you are winning.....
 

LotusAggressor_rivals

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Re rhule- it takes some time for realities to surface. When certain kids were going there, they were believing in that staff. And they recruit hard.

To think tyler matakevich performed really well at Rutgers and wasnt even offered as a preferred walk on
Tyler Matakevich wouldn't have been nearly the player at RU that he is at Temple now because he wouldn't have gotten more than a year of decent coaching. That's true of most of these good players at other schools that everybody wishes RU had gotten. Hell, most of the good players that are here now aren't anywhere close to realizing their potential.
 

vkj91

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Tyler Matakevich wouldn't have been nearly the player at RU that he is at Temple now because he wouldn't have gotten more than a year of decent coaching. That's true of most of these good players at other schools that everybody wishes RU had gotten. Hell, most of the good players that are here now aren't anywhere close to realizing their potential.
This is where people who are so anti flood lose the argument. First, he wouldn't be a 4 year starter at RU. Second, we've had some damn good LB play the last few years....was it luck? Third, I repeat your anti stand blinds your honestly
 

bac2therac

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He is young but I like Sanford...hire him with experienced legit coordinators and im in
 
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Carty isn't someone I'd hire as a HC, maybe an OC like vkj91 said. Even Chip Kelly took the reins of an OC role for 1 years at Oregon. It can be questionable putting a HC from the lower levels as a HC at the P5, let alone a coordinator from that level.

I wouldn't hire Sanford yet either. He's only been an OC for 2 years, not long enough for me. Both those years came under offensive coaches too in Bryan Harsin at Boise and Brian Kelly at ND. I'm not even sure does he or Kelly call plays at ND.
 

NickyNewark51

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Sadly, I remember exactly where I was when he decommited. I need a better hobby....
Funny....I don't think you're that unusual....i'd been following our recruiting long before people like Mel Kiper turned it into an industry. 1st team All State OT Ron Johnstone from Kearny chooses Maine over us in the early to mid 70s.heck we were pretty damn good then...many friends from Belleville thought I was nuts caring about the ''minutia'' in their eyes but i always understood the importance of RECRUITING...it always pizzed me off that then how much our local kids seemed to lack state pride unlike other lesser states...thats why when we'd get kids like Albert Smith,Tyronne Stowe,Brian Sheridan and Ray Lucas i had ton's of respect for them loyal young men.....were the real fans and have no need to ''get a life''....we have one in NJ.....Rutgers just happens to be at the center of it.
 

PSU_Nut_rivals17625

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Oklahoma State OC Mike Yurcich. He is from Ohio and has coached at several DII schools in PA (Shippensburg and Edinboro) so he is familiar with recruiting in the northeast. He is an alumni of California of PA so he not a threat to leave for go back there. He a QB guru as his QB at Ship won the DII equivalent of the Heisman trophy and had all American QB at Edinboro who signed a free agent contract with Jacksonville.
 

Scarlet16e2

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No Coordinators! We are in the B1G now. Act it. Only coaches with a track record of winning.
Who did Minnesota just hire?
Who will Illinois hire?

Your expectations of "we are in the B1G now" don't jive with reality.
 

vkj91

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Who did Minnesota just hire?
Who will Illinois hire?

Your expectations of "we are in the B1G now" don't jive with reality.
Plus 1. never ceases to amaze me how people can spend so much time on these boards and are still oblivious to what happens in the rest of the country.
 

vkj91

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Oklahoma State OC Mike Yurcich. He is from Ohio and has coached at several DII schools in PA (Shippensburg and Edinboro) so he is familiar with recruiting in the northeast. He is an alumni of California of PA so he not a threat to leave for go back there. He a QB guru as his QB at Ship won the DII equivalent of the Heisman trophy and had all American QB at Edinboro who signed a free agent contract with Jacksonville.
Intriguing name because he's from Pa but I think he'd be a huge leap. It always concerns me when a guy comes from a system that has been able to plug and play with coordinators. You have to believe Gundy's fingerprints are all over their game plan each week. Could definitely see him getting some MAC interviews though. Curious to find out how Gundy discovered him all the way out in Oklahoma.
 

sherrane

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Plus 1. never ceases to amaze me how people can spend so much time on these boards and are still oblivious to what happens in the rest of the country.

As well as being oblivious the the amount of money RU has / is willing to spend on a coaching staff.
 

c_husk

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The last cordinator we hired did not turn out too bad

If the cordinator has significant experience working as an asisistant at a major power program, and then being a cordinator at a major power program that counts for a lot

Being around how it should be done is very valuable.

Our last hire was an O line coach from a group of 5 school. I think a coordinator from a power 5 could be successful.
 

PSU_Nut_rivals17625

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Intriguing name because he's from Pa but I think he'd be a huge leap. It always concerns me when a guy comes from a system that has been able to plug and play with coordinators. You have to believe Gundy's fingerprints are all over their game plan each week. Could definitely see him getting some MAC interviews though. Curious to find out how Gundy discovered him all the way out in Oklahoma.
I would agree with you if he hadn't put up huge numbers at Ship. His offense there was averaging 529.2 yards per game and 46.9 pts per game. I think this is more of a situation where his system fit Mike Gundy's system.
 

krup

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I'd take a Solid coordinator in a heartbeat. He needs to be able to recruit though. A younger, high energy guy who can relate to the nj top prospects.

This whole family angle doesn't work with those kids. It's not the south Flood.
The best NJ players don't even play for the high school in their hometown, they commute to a parochial with a better team. Why do people believe some kind of "family" pride in NJ, or ties to other recruits they know, will get them to RU over a more successful school?

Only two things will improve NJ recruiting. Winning, or the belief that we will win soon. None of these kids watching us get blown out thinks we are close.
 

sherrane

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Our last hire was an O line coach from a group of 5 school. I think a coordinator from a power 5 could be successful.
Shack's point was the last coordinator RU hired was Schiano. But you could make a case against a coordinator since the one before that was Terry Shea.
 

tuffer76

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Mike Stoops, not up and coming but has experience that maybe he's learned from and is from Ohio and has a brand name that kids recognize. Coaches the best defense in the Big 12.

Eddie Gran. Great recruiter and his offenses at Cincy put up lots of points/yards.

Vance Bedford, DC at Texas.

Already named that I agree with: Sanford, Montgomery