I realize my opinion is probably the minority. I just think our national champion should be able be at par after 4 rounds if he is playing well enough to win.
US OPEN golf thread
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Just downloaded the US Open app. The USGA has an e-program app too. Looks like a worthwhile download for the week.
It's the US Open not the PGAC. Toughest test in golf on one of the tradition rich golf courses. This is the way the locals play and it was built to be the toughest in the world. Nothing tricked up about Oakmont. Stoked.
Someone will be under par after day one. The pros are so used to playing on perfect courses set up for birdies and putting contests they just can't handle it when a course is set up that makes par the goal.
So? They do watch how things evolve, and if the course is fair over the 4 days. They have tricked up courses in the past and made changes for the weekend. Other times, like Pinehurst and Chambers last year, they let the course dictate things.
Start paying attention.
They can't handle it when a course is set up that makes par the goal, so someone will shoot under par.
Strange logic.
How about you not pay attention, then re-join the golf convo after our National Championship is over.
Chambers Bay came down to Jordan Spieth, Jason Day, and Dustin Johnson.
Chambers Bay Top 20:
Spieth (2)
DJ (6)
Oosthuizen (14
Grace (12)
Scott (8)
Day (1)
Schwartzel (22)
Sned (20)
Rory (3)
Kisner (25)
Kuchar (18)
Reed (11)
Sergio (13)
Koepka (16)
Hideki (15)
Basically a who's who of the world's best players.
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Yep, course did a terrible job of identifying the best player (the object of any Major). Terrible take, per usual.
Chambers Bay came down to Jordan Spieth, Jason Day, and Dustin Johnson.
Chambers Bay Top 20:
Spieth (2)
DJ (6)
Oosthuizen (14
Grace (12)
Scott (8)
Day (1)
Schwartzel (22)
Sned (20)
Rory (3)
Kisner (25)
Kuchar (18)
Reed (11)
Sergio (13)
Koepka (16)
Hideki (15)
Basically a who's who of the world's best players.
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Yep, course did a terrible job of identifying the best player (the object of any Major). Terrible take, per usual.
Score relative to par doesn't mean much in a tournament. Score relative the other players is what counts. This course will test the mental acuity of the players as much or more than the physical. Is Bubba gonna keep his head when he misses a 2 foot putt and it rolls 20 feet and off the green?
Every golf course is unique, and every golf course plays different at different times. I pay money to deal with it. They get paid money to deal with it. No sympathy from me.
Every golf course is unique, and every golf course plays different at different times. I pay money to deal with it. They get paid money to deal with it. No sympathy from me.
Oakmont is in everyone's top 2 or 3 of best US Open venues we go to so i dont think they will lose the course. Of all the major championship golf that has been played there since 1936, only one score for the winner was over par Cabrera (+5)
Caught the tree story last night, that's really fascinating. Can only imagine the rift that created in the club.
Anth said it, and I've said it a hundred times, but 'Live From...' is such an awesome show for the Majors -- so well produced. Great work viewing in the background all day long.
Oakmont is the 6th ranked course in the country, and has been top 10 the entire time any of us have been alive -- Sure it will be terrible, though [eyeroll]. Other than the rough, not much the USGA can do to that track, it is what it is ----> the toughest test in golf, by most accounts. As mentioned, it rolls at 14 for the MEMBERS (faster than typical Augusta), and will likely be slowed down if anything.
If it's not, who cares? Anything unfair regarding the greens will not be intentional on the USGA's part. The champion will be the one who is able to deal with it the best, which is the case in any tournament.
Boo Hoo at -22 not being the winning score, I love it. :fire:
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Anth said it, and I've said it a hundred times, but 'Live From...' is such an awesome show for the Majors -- so well produced. Great work viewing in the background all day long.
Oakmont is the 6th ranked course in the country, and has been top 10 the entire time any of us have been alive -- Sure it will be terrible, though [eyeroll]. Other than the rough, not much the USGA can do to that track, it is what it is ----> the toughest test in golf, by most accounts. As mentioned, it rolls at 14 for the MEMBERS (faster than typical Augusta), and will likely be slowed down if anything.
If it's not, who cares? Anything unfair regarding the greens will not be intentional on the USGA's part. The champion will be the one who is able to deal with it the best, which is the case in any tournament.
Boo Hoo at -22 not being the winning score, I love it. :fire:
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Probably should have said "outside of the Big 3, guys I think can win it / will be there sunday."
Can not stand Bubba, but he played well there in 07. I just think Reed and Watson has the type of game that can win it. Reed has been pretty damn good this year (I called that in the original golf thread), and if his draw can land in the fairway, he will be a threat. Rose always plays well on tough tracks.
Phil is my favorite golfer would love to see him finally get a US Open, but his driver is a wreck right now. His new swing has helped,, a little. And those little 5-7 footers this week ??? This is not St. Jude Classic (all though a very tough track in its on right) as far as greens go. He was like 36-36 inside 5 feet last week, not so this week. 100% lock he 3 putts from inside 8 feet this week.
Agree. The US Open is supposed to push the best players in the world to their max and Oakmont is a perfect place to do that. If you want to see these guys score low have them play at our your local club. For me, I want to see the best tested to the max.Caught the tree story last night, that's really fascinating. Can only imagine the rift that created in the club.
Anth said it, and I've said it a hundred times, but 'Live From...' is such an awesome show for the Majors -- so well produced. Great work viewing in the background all day long.
Oakmont is the 6th ranked course in the country, and has been top 10 the entire time any of us have been alive -- Sure it will be terrible, though [eyeroll]. Other than the rough, not much the USGA can do to that track, it is what it is ----> the toughest test in golf, by most accounts. As mentioned, it rolls at 14 for the MEMBERS (faster than typical Augusta), and will likely be slowed down if anything.
If it's not, who cares? Anything unfair regarding the greens will not be intentional on the USGA's part. The champion will be the one who is able to deal with it the best, which is the case in any tournament.
Boo Hoo at -22 not being the winning score, I love it. :fire:
I know scoring is fun but I hate when a tourney is grouped at 6-8 under after the first day. That's super boring golf. Spieth said it yesterday, a 3-4 shot lead can vanish in the finishing 4 holes in no time.
Bubba and Phil were screwed when they announced the venue years ago.
Bubba and Phil were screwed when they announced the venue years ago.
Not sure why. He is 100% right to tell them to take a hike. Nothing bothers me more at sporting venues than grown *** men acting like idiots around children.
If he's refusing to sign, good for him. He's always seemed to be more than cordial in most cases by signing autographs but lets be honest, preparing for a major like this far outweighs some 45 year old goober wanting a 20-something male's autograph.
At my current age I feel like an absolute loser asking for an autograph. Now, there are a few autographed items I would purchase, but running around getting autographs is just weird for men.
Always amazed at how many UK fans turn out and WAIT forever to get UK Players autographs.
NO.INTEREST.AT.ALL.
One note on the TV coverage that was not in the original post. It only lists FS1 on Thursday and Friday from 10-5. According to my program guide it switches to Fox network coverage from 5-8 on both days. Another 6 hours of coverage.
Nice call Glenn.
Live TV coverage: 10 a.m. to 5 p.m. on Fox Sports 1, 5-8 p.m. on Fox
Brad Rehak, a meteorologist with the National Weather Service, said there is a 50 percent chance of storms Wednesday, 70 percent Thursday and down to 30 percent Friday.
“There will be scattered thunderstorms,” Rehak said. “Dryer weather arrives Friday later in the day, and it should stay dry for the rest of the weekend.”
Grounds superintendent John Zimmers is aware of the possibility of rain changing the course for the Open. He was pleased with how the course was looking Monday, but the weather forecast might change how he and his staff prepare the course.
“Our concern now is the rain they are saying is coming Wednesday and Thursday,” Zimmers said. ”Just need to prepare for it.”
Jordan Spieth acknowledged that rain could significantly change the course.
“If the fairways are softer, it’s going to be a lot easier to hold them, which makes a huge difference because of how much pitch is in these fairways,” Spieth said.
He added that direction is a major part of playing Oakmont and that rain can add some leeway for golfers to miss a little and still end up in the fairway.
“Yeah, if it doesn’t change, it will be over par,” Spieth said. “If it does, if it rains, you can shoot under par.”
Oakmont takes a thorough route to maintaining the course. Much of the course is hand watered and it is evaluated throughout the day for the next choice of action. If rain is imminent, Zimmers will need to avoid watering the course to remain in line with his goals of a fast course.
“The dryer the better,” Zimmers said.
“There will be scattered thunderstorms,” Rehak said. “Dryer weather arrives Friday later in the day, and it should stay dry for the rest of the weekend.”
Grounds superintendent John Zimmers is aware of the possibility of rain changing the course for the Open. He was pleased with how the course was looking Monday, but the weather forecast might change how he and his staff prepare the course.
“Our concern now is the rain they are saying is coming Wednesday and Thursday,” Zimmers said. ”Just need to prepare for it.”
Jordan Spieth acknowledged that rain could significantly change the course.
“If the fairways are softer, it’s going to be a lot easier to hold them, which makes a huge difference because of how much pitch is in these fairways,” Spieth said.
He added that direction is a major part of playing Oakmont and that rain can add some leeway for golfers to miss a little and still end up in the fairway.
“Yeah, if it doesn’t change, it will be over par,” Spieth said. “If it does, if it rains, you can shoot under par.”
Oakmont takes a thorough route to maintaining the course. Much of the course is hand watered and it is evaluated throughout the day for the next choice of action. If rain is imminent, Zimmers will need to avoid watering the course to remain in line with his goals of a fast course.
“The dryer the better,” Zimmers said.
This may help him at Oakmont:
#USOpen Stats - 10: Only player ranked in top-10 this season in strokes gained off the tee & strokes gained around the green: Rickie Fowler.
I normally like Johnny Miller but having him at Oakmont would be like locking a drunk in a brewery.
Live From is killing it right now. Talking about Mike Davis and his set up of the courses. These guys ***** about courses all the time, but someone always wins. I hope an amateur wins this one.
Interesting fact I just learned, maybe most of you already know it; the Stimpmeter was developed by Edward Stimpson after attending the 1935 US Open at Oakmont! Why? He felt the greens had to be too fast. So at least Oakmont has always been set up by sadists. :joy:
I won't pretend to be as knowledgeable about players and stats as some of you guys are. I've learned a lot in the two golf threads and I thank you all for that.
I did notice a name that hasn't been mentioned as a "sleeper" to win the tournament and was wondering what some of you guys thought. Colt Knost, he has been sneaky good the past several tournaments. I'm pretty indifferent to the guy but have noticed his name quite a bit lately.
I did notice a name that hasn't been mentioned as a "sleeper" to win the tournament and was wondering what some of you guys thought. Colt Knost, he has been sneaky good the past several tournaments. I'm pretty indifferent to the guy but have noticed his name quite a bit lately.
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Would not surprise me at all, dude is all about fitness and building core strength. Colt's been prepping for a summer scorcher with no shade.