US OPEN golf thread
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Best shot of the entire weekend was the shot of Paulina walking across that bridge.
Must have been static electricity in his putter that exerted a magnetic force on the ball causing it to move backward toward his putter
USGA gagged this final round. Shame on them ruining it for every single player who was in contention. Nobody wants an unfair advantage, but talking to DJ on 12 gave him an unfair disadvantage in my opinion.
Totally put a black cloud on every players focus.
Totally put a black cloud on every players focus.
Props to Fox for not shying away from the topic. Not sure CBS would've had the balls to basically grill the USGA while it was happening. Zinger and Meth Head(Faxon) were noticeably pissed off.
Wait until the end of the round... lol. Back nine of the US OPEN and we'll just casually wait until the end of the round to figure it out. That's so ridiculous and brutally unfair to everyone at that point who had a shot to win. Thankfully it didn't end up mattering.
Wait until the end of the round... lol. Back nine of the US OPEN and we'll just casually wait until the end of the round to figure it out. That's so ridiculous and brutally unfair to everyone at that point who had a shot to win. Thankfully it didn't end up mattering.
Now all DJ needs to do is when 18 more and he can be on equal ground with his future father in law.
Mike Davis and the USGA has totally screwed up the last 2 Opens. First with that awful setup of Chambers Bay, and now this wrong ruling and ineptness of how it was handled. I think the USGA has now lost all respect from the Pros, and I hope they boycott next years Open. And now Davis is doubling down on the ruling but wanting a mullifgan for how they handled it, total laughing stock.
Since we are on the rules jihad, I think USGA/R&A need to look at the line of sight relief in pro tournaments. Thought the DJ drop from deep rough to first cut was BS, although I am sure it was legal.
I am no rules expert, but for example, if you have an unplayable lie in a bunker, you have to drop it in the hazard, cannot go two clublengths out to fairway. Seems like if you want a line of sight drop, you ought to have to do something similar, have to keep it in the same (or worse) area, e.g., if you are in rough, go back to nearest point of relief, but still must drop in the rough.
I am no rules expert, but for example, if you have an unplayable lie in a bunker, you have to drop it in the hazard, cannot go two clublengths out to fairway. Seems like if you want a line of sight drop, you ought to have to do something similar, have to keep it in the same (or worse) area, e.g., if you are in rough, go back to nearest point of relief, but still must drop in the rough.
Can't penalize someone with a potentially tougher/longer shot because of a TV tower. It was the correct call. Players get good breaks from temporary structures all the time.
Although it was the correct ruling, it is a BS rule from the distance DJ hit, as he still went over the tower.
It reminded me of when Tiger had a giant boulder moved as a loose impediment.
http://www.golfdigest.com/story/throwback-thursday-that-time-tiger-woods-had-his-gallery-per
Dumbass. Hitting out of USOPEN rough brings the tower even more into play. By moving it it took it out of play as he could easily go over it. Hence the relief. It's ******** there's a 40' structure in his way, not that he got a favorable lie from the ruling.
Sorry DJ, you're going to have to chunk it out of the buried rough off the TV tower. Similar to Happy Gilmore, no big deal.
^ exactly.
No clue why UKO fancies himself such an expert on golf. He's awful -- at playing, watching, and discussion. As with most things, his psycho bias & contrarian-driven agenda doesn't allow him to think clearly.
He's terrible.
No clue why UKO fancies himself such an expert on golf. He's awful -- at playing, watching, and discussion. As with most things, his psycho bias & contrarian-driven agenda doesn't allow him to think clearly.
He's terrible.
Not what tskware was saying...you shouldn't be able to have an "improved" lie in that situation.
And Adrian....shut up.
The more interesting one was the play out of the bunker on Saturday morning. I was at the tournament, so can't remember who it was or how much they talked about it on tv. His ball was up against one of the church pews and he got relief because he told the official that he wanted to hit the ball left-handed, and if he did so, he would be standing on a sprinkler head, so he got a drop. Did they talk about that one on TV at all?
One thing that they pointed out this morning on Morning Drive is that there is a lot of precedent for reviewing things after the round to see if there is a penalty stroke. It's just the first time that it's happened to a leader on Sunday in a major. It is done to give a player a chance to defend themselves.
It is a ******** rule regardless. I understand the reason for the rule and it makes sense but did DJ really get an edge because his ball oscillated a 1/16 of an inch?
If it moves just put the damn thing back where it was, at least on the green. Off the green a small movement can make a difference but on the green? Come on. If you don't touch it and it moves notify your opponent, put it back and play on.
If it moves just put the damn thing back where it was, at least on the green. Off the green a small movement can make a difference but on the green? Come on. If you don't touch it and it moves notify your opponent, put it back and play on.
Horrible take. From the rough he couldn't go over the tower. So you want to penalize him more by making him go even farther back from the hole and still hit out of the rough. Good call.
The rule is very lenient for a reason. Because those towers aren't part of the course. So why should he be penalized because you want to watch it on TV.
Sure he went over the tower after the relief. Because he had the lie to be able to do it. Show me the part of the rule where it says he can't do that.
I tend to agree the oscillating rule is the worst. ESPECIALLY if you're going to have greens running that fast. Unless the player specifically causes it to move I think it should not be a penalty. They already got 50% of the rule correct. Now go ahead and take the next step to get it right.
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I think it should boil down to intent, w/ regards to any advantage gained.
...just like if you address the ball on the teebox, or are even in mid-stroke, and it falls off the tee and you aren't making a real swing at the ball or actually touch the ball, it doesn't matter. Pretty sure you can even stop mid down-swing if it falls off (aka, moves)
I know the USGA likes to "protect" the rules and history, but a little common sense wouldn't hurt anyone. Who cares if the ball moved? If anything, the ball moving during your stroke HURTS you, and it obviously wasn't an intentional act.
Furthermore, your opponent/playing partners should have the first call...and if there is an issue, then the rules official comes in. Westy (and every other player who saw the footgage) backed DJ 100%.
Like many mentioned, if it was a PGA event, it probably would have gone on without a word after Westy approved and the accompaning official approved as well.
That's also how it would proceed in ANY other USGA event, where there wasn't Television Coverage of every single shot. So basically, TV is the final call, which is pretty silly imo.
Golf is a gentleman's game, leave it up to the players or officials on the damn course. If someone is caught "cheating" on TV, they will suffer the consequences plenty.
...just like if you address the ball on the teebox, or are even in mid-stroke, and it falls off the tee and you aren't making a real swing at the ball or actually touch the ball, it doesn't matter. Pretty sure you can even stop mid down-swing if it falls off (aka, moves)
I know the USGA likes to "protect" the rules and history, but a little common sense wouldn't hurt anyone. Who cares if the ball moved? If anything, the ball moving during your stroke HURTS you, and it obviously wasn't an intentional act.
Furthermore, your opponent/playing partners should have the first call...and if there is an issue, then the rules official comes in. Westy (and every other player who saw the footgage) backed DJ 100%.
Like many mentioned, if it was a PGA event, it probably would have gone on without a word after Westy approved and the accompaning official approved as well.
That's also how it would proceed in ANY other USGA event, where there wasn't Television Coverage of every single shot. So basically, TV is the final call, which is pretty silly imo.
Golf is a gentleman's game, leave it up to the players or officials on the damn course. If someone is caught "cheating" on TV, they will suffer the consequences plenty.
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Agree with the above. Once the call was made on the hole where it occurred, that's the call, leave it be and play on.
Agree with the above. Once the call was made on the hole where it occurred, that's the call, leave it be and play on.