You don't have a baby's leg growing out the back of your head?Got my flu vaccination and my Covid booster on Thursday afternoon. Felling great. I'll be sure to keep you updated, TG and Piggy. Life is good.
Vaccines for children
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Explains a lot.Got my flu vaccination and my Covid booster on Thursday afternoon. Felling great. I'll be sure to keep you updated, TG and Piggy. Life is good.
No. It just never gets old pointing out how completely wrong and stupid anti vaxxers are. It’s hilarious, they are just so unbelievably dumb and stupid. Truly one step away from being deemed unfit to live alone.
Unbelievable that you're still spreading vaccine misinformation, knowing it's responsible for the biggest measles outbreak in years and things will only get worse by continuing to peddle non-stop vaccine fear porn. Stop it.
U.S. Measles Cases Hit Highest Level Since Declared Eliminated in 2000 | International Vaccine Access Center
The United States surpassed a milestone in reported measles cases, with 2025 now having the most cases since the disease was declared eliminated in the U.S. in 2000 and the most cases in more than three decades.
sorry, doesn't fit the narrative, so must be fake news
How many times do we have to remind you that this charlatan Nicolas Hulsher doesn't share NEWS?
I believe he was just sharing results of a study. I've seen similar reports from other sources.
Now, I'm smart enough to recognize that everybody has an agenda, so I don't 100% accept everything every one puts out. I'm also smart enough to ask questions, like what studies are there to refute this one. I'd be willing to accept that someone with a different agenda has a similar report the concludes something different. That's the way life is.
Clemsoninatlanta thinks the supreme court is corrupt, other people feel the opposite. Again, that's the way life is. It would be boring if everyone saw things the same way. Heck, we wouldn't need this board
If a study isn't credible, it doesn't matter what it says. This isn't opinion - this is TigerGrowls' continued attempt to fool you with fake propaganda. Here, I did the work for you.
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The Henry Ford Vaxxed vs. Unvaxxed study is not credible. The study, which was an internal draft from 2020, was never published because its own internal review found serious flaws in its data and methodology.
Key issues with the draft study include:
- Serious methodological problems: The internal draft was rejected during the first internal peer review due to fundamental issues. Henry Ford Health stated that it "did not meet the rigorous scientific standards we demand as a premier medical research institution".
- Detection bias: The study showed that vaccinated children had significantly more healthcare visits (an average of seven per year) than the unvaccinated children (an average of two). This "detection bias" means the vaccinated group had more opportunities to be diagnosed with chronic conditions, regardless of whether they were actually healthier or sicker.
- Incomparable sample groups: The vaccinated and unvaccinated groups of children were vastly different. The unvaccinated sample was much smaller, and the demographics were not balanced. The unvaccinated group also had a shorter follow-up time, which is an important metric for diagnosing chronic conditions.
- Misappropriation of data: The health system was unaware that the rejected draft was being circulated and discussed publicly. It has since been misrepresented by anti-vaccine advocates. In public testimony and on social media, the draft's findings were cited as definitive evidence of vaccine harm, even though the study's own conclusion cautioned against proving causality.
- Flawed conclusions: The Henry Ford draft contained fundamental errors that would have caused any credible journal to reject it. A biostatistician reviewing the study said that the groups were "too different to be remotely comparable" and that it would be "impossible to conclude that the differences have anything to do with vaccines".
A non-credible study is NOT a point of view. It means it's not based on facts - get it?
I get it. We're supposed to take everything you post as gospel and any post that is counter to yours as the work of the devil...A non-credible study is NOT a point of view. It means it's not based on facts - get it?
Unfortunately, that doesn't work for me
He posted that the author of that study was debunked and didn't follow the scientific method AT ALL. If you don't believe in science or the scientific method, fine. But according to how we have believed/understood/tested how the world works since the Enlightenment, this study doesn't hold up AT ALL. In no way shape or form. That's all he said
It's completely wrong and been complete unproven.
It's not a difference I opinion, it's truth vs falsehoods.
They weren't MY WORDS Ned. Good grief, look it up for yourself, but since you seem to be gullible, here's a clue, TigerGrowls NEVER at any time, attempts to share the truth, nor does he care that what he shares isn't true - he is 100% of the time trying to influence you with fake propaganda from the worst charlatans on the dark web. He doesn't care if you've disproven his nonsense 10 times, he'll wait a certain amount of time and post it again. It's royally screwed up but that's who he is - that's his schtick!
see, here's were we go on different paths. I like to do my own research and then decide what I believe.
I have always believed that there are two sides to every story, and I know that I don't know everything and I'm pretty sure that nobody else knows everything either.
So when I see a text/post/whatever from someone who I don't know, I take it with a grain of salt. When I see somebody else post something different from the first post, I take that with a grain of salt also.
Now I will gladly admit that I don't have a dog in this vaccine/no vaccine debate. My children are grown and we followed the prescribed vaccine protocols that were in existence back then. I get my flu shot (and have since the army in 1967) every year, When I traveled overseas as a civilian I got the complete series of shots recommended for the areas I was going to, and I got the COVID shots first day they were available in Florida. I got Covid and subsequently decided I'm not going to get the boosters.
At this point in my life, it's too late for me to debate about vaccines for children - grandchildren also got the normal vaccine protocols at the recommended times. You and DPIC have your opinions and I respect that you've done your research and will do what's best for you. Isn't that the way it's supposed to be?
So, at this point in my life I'll let you guys debate who's right and who's wrong. Now if they come up with a vaccine for anti aging or even death avoidance, I'll be first in line no matter what dpic or yoshi say.
I literally live with an expert who works with these students every. Single. Day.
Vaccines don't cause autism full stop. No serious or well respected scientist thinks that they do. None.
This goes DOUBLY for acetaminophen in pregnancy/newborns (uh·see·tuh·mi·nuh·fn for the MAGA's ITT) and circumcision. They don't cause Autism in any way, shape or form.
Obviously, MAGA has done what all dumb fvcks have done in history- blame woman and Jews for the world's problems.
I don't doubt you one bit. I've posted that you seem to know more about this topic than any other poster. I totally respect your opinion.
I don't know what causes autism. But I do know that the number of autistic children is getting higher and something is causing it (pretty sure its not circumcision) and anything the government can fund to find the cause is well worth the funding
My family has been blessed...6 siblings all with children, some with grandchildren and no cases of autism or any other illness for that matter
See that's the fallacy. Autism isn't increasing. Diagnosis has increased. I've explained this numerous times.
must have missed that explanation. I guess you get tired of posting same stuff, sorry
Here are two articles.
Is There an Autism Epidemic? | Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health
Autism diagnosis rates have risen over the past two decades—but why? An autism researcher explains what's behind the increase.
There is no epidemic of autism. It’s an epidemic of need
The more autism we recognize, the more people we can help.
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thanksHere are two articles.
Is There an Autism Epidemic? | Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health
Autism diagnosis rates have risen over the past two decades—but why? An autism researcher explains what's behind the increase.publichealth.jhu.edu
There is no epidemic of autism. It’s an epidemic of need
The more autism we recognize, the more people we can help.
RFK Jr. Drops a Bombshell: “The Autism Spike Began in 1989 — Right After Pharma Got Legal Immunity for Vaccines”
RFK Jr. says the EPA, not the CDC or FDA, identified 1989 as the year autism rates exploded—and that moment wasn’t random.
Three years earlier, Congress passed the 1986 Vaccine Act, granting vaccine makers full legal immunity for vaccines. No lawsuits. No accountability. Overnight, every barrier—testing costs, legal risks, marketing expenses—disappeared.
What followed was a pharmaceutical gold rush. With mandatory schedules guaranteeing millions of customers, new vaccines poured in for everything from rotavirus to hepatitis B—even conditions that aren't contagious.
RFK Jr. frames it bluntly: 1989 marked the year public health stopped being about health—and became about profit.
this won''t go far, goes against the "agenda" and of course, RFK Jr. posted it
Govt and big pharma lying for decades with children being collateral damage to their quest of wealth and control.
NBC today blasted @RealDonaldTrump and @RobertKennedyJr for wanting to study a possible connection between "autism and childhood vaccines" because NBC claims it has been "debunked" by "hundreds of studies."** But has it? The answer is unmistakably "no!" Here is the proof:
Most parents with autistic children claim vaccines - including DTaP, Hep B, Hib, PCV13, and IPV, each injected 3 times by 6 months of age - are a cause of their child’s autism.* Yet the studies to support that these vaccines do not cause autism have not been conducted.
In 1986, Congress passed the National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act in which it ordered federal health authorities (HHS) to study whether pertussis vaccine can cause autism due to parental complaints regarding same. sirillp.com/wp-content/upl…
In 1991, the Institute of Medicine (IOM) issued its report on this question and could not find a single study on the question of whether pertussis vaccine causes autism. Meaning, the science had not been done. nap.nationalacademies.org/read/1815/chap…
In 2012, the IOM was again commissioned to study whether pertussis vaccine can cause autism, this time by CDC, and also the question of whether tetanus and diphtheria vaccines can cause autism (DTaP), and again the IOM could not find a single study to support the claim that these vaccines do not cause autism. Not one. But it did find one study supporting that DTaP vaccine is correlated with autism but threw it out since it was based on VAERS data. nap.nationalacademies.org/read/13164/cha…
In 2018, I deposed the world's leading vaccinologist about the 2012 finding by the IOM and while admitting there are no studies to support that these vaccines do not cause autism, he said he would nonetheless tell parents these vaccines do not cause autism even though he has no evidence to support that claim. thehighwire.com/ark-videos/do-…
In 2019, we sued CDC for the studies it claims support that the vaccines given in the first six months of life do not cause autism. CDC finally identified 20 studies: 18 of those studied a different vaccine (MMR) or an ingredient not in these vaccines (thimerosal), and one irrelevant study looked at antigens. Incredibly, the final study CDC identified was the 2012 IOM review that found no studies supporting that DTaP doesn’t cause autism. icandecide.org/wp-content/upl…
In 2020, in a lawsuit specifically about vaccines and autism, I depose one the world's leading vaccinologists on this topic and she admitted under oath that there were no studies to support that vaccines given in the first six months of life do not cause autism. thehighwire.com/ark-videos/pro…
This is why actually studying whether vaccines cause autism is important: rumble.com/v3loxq5-parent…
While CDC claims that vaccines do not cause autism, despite demanding the studies to support this claim for the vaccines given in the first six months of life, and asking, suing, deposing, etc., for them for years, we still have not received a single such study.
But NBC doesn't really care about the facts or data, rather it just repeats the dogmatic claim that "vaccines do not cause autism" like a mantra. nbcnews.com/politics/donal…
One final thought: given the lack of studies regarding vaccines and autism – the issue CDC and "health" authorities claimed to have most thoroughly studied – imagine the state of the "science" with regard to the 100 other serious harms (often immune or immune-mediated disorders) parents claim are caused by vaccines. (For more meat on that bone watch Episode 388: thehighwire.com/?s=new+hampshi…)
*ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16685182; ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25398603; ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16547798; ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/P….
**nbcnews.com/politics/donal…
NBC today blasted @RealDonaldTrump and @RobertKennedyJr for wanting to study a possible connection between "autism and childhood vaccines" because NBC claims it has been "debunked" by "hundreds of studies."** But has it? The answer is unmistakably "no!" Here is the proof:
Most parents with autistic children claim vaccines - including DTaP, Hep B, Hib, PCV13, and IPV, each injected 3 times by 6 months of age - are a cause of their child’s autism.* Yet the studies to support that these vaccines do not cause autism have not been conducted.
In 1986, Congress passed the National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act in which it ordered federal health authorities (HHS) to study whether pertussis vaccine can cause autism due to parental complaints regarding same. sirillp.com/wp-content/upl…
In 1991, the Institute of Medicine (IOM) issued its report on this question and could not find a single study on the question of whether pertussis vaccine causes autism. Meaning, the science had not been done. nap.nationalacademies.org/read/1815/chap…
In 2012, the IOM was again commissioned to study whether pertussis vaccine can cause autism, this time by CDC, and also the question of whether tetanus and diphtheria vaccines can cause autism (DTaP), and again the IOM could not find a single study to support the claim that these vaccines do not cause autism. Not one. But it did find one study supporting that DTaP vaccine is correlated with autism but threw it out since it was based on VAERS data. nap.nationalacademies.org/read/13164/cha…
In 2018, I deposed the world's leading vaccinologist about the 2012 finding by the IOM and while admitting there are no studies to support that these vaccines do not cause autism, he said he would nonetheless tell parents these vaccines do not cause autism even though he has no evidence to support that claim. thehighwire.com/ark-videos/do-…
In 2019, we sued CDC for the studies it claims support that the vaccines given in the first six months of life do not cause autism. CDC finally identified 20 studies: 18 of those studied a different vaccine (MMR) or an ingredient not in these vaccines (thimerosal), and one irrelevant study looked at antigens. Incredibly, the final study CDC identified was the 2012 IOM review that found no studies supporting that DTaP doesn’t cause autism. icandecide.org/wp-content/upl…
In 2020, in a lawsuit specifically about vaccines and autism, I depose one the world's leading vaccinologists on this topic and she admitted under oath that there were no studies to support that vaccines given in the first six months of life do not cause autism. thehighwire.com/ark-videos/pro…
This is why actually studying whether vaccines cause autism is important: rumble.com/v3loxq5-parent…
While CDC claims that vaccines do not cause autism, despite demanding the studies to support this claim for the vaccines given in the first six months of life, and asking, suing, deposing, etc., for them for years, we still have not received a single such study.
But NBC doesn't really care about the facts or data, rather it just repeats the dogmatic claim that "vaccines do not cause autism" like a mantra. nbcnews.com/politics/donal…
One final thought: given the lack of studies regarding vaccines and autism – the issue CDC and "health" authorities claimed to have most thoroughly studied – imagine the state of the "science" with regard to the 100 other serious harms (often immune or immune-mediated disorders) parents claim are caused by vaccines. (For more meat on that bone watch Episode 388: thehighwire.com/?s=new+hampshi…)
*ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16685182; ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25398603; ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16547798; ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/P….
**nbcnews.com/politics/donal…