Vaccines for children

yoshi121374

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Idiot and moron.
 

fatpiggy

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And I will be right.

If you think that it is possible to find a single answer for autism with a scientific study in 5 months you are more clueless than I ever imagined.

Truly unimaginable stupid. Like embarrassing level stupid.
I don't think there will be a single cause for autism. And i don't think that it will be found in 5 months. Not sure if you are trying to pigeon hole me into that position or not. Just to be clear i do not expect those things.

I do respect the aggressive effort and trying things outside the accepted norms.
 
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yoshi121374

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I don't think there will be a single cause for autism. And i don't think that it will be found in 5 months. Not sure if you are trying to pigeon hole me into that position or not. Just to be clear i do not expect those things.

I do respect the aggressive effort and trying things outside the accepted norms.

I appreciate that you know those goals are assinine. I would have loved to see you say that when it was announced.
 
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Fauci admits in court that vaccines are not safety tested.



After being called a liar by Anthony Fauci for saying that "not one of the 72 vaccines mandated for children has ever been safety tested", RFK Jr. sued Fauci.

After a year of stonewalling, Fauci's lawyers admitted that RFK Jr. had been right all along.

"There's no downstream liability, there's no front-end safety testing... and there's no marketing and advertising costs, because the federal government is ordering 78 million school kids to take that vaccine every year."

"What better product could you have? And so there was a gold rush to add all these new vaccines to the schedule... because if you get onto that schedule, it's a billion dollars a year for your company."

"So we got all of these new vaccines, 72 shots, 16 vaccines... And that year, 1989, we saw an explosion in chronic disease in American children... ADHD, sleep disorders, language delays, ASD, autism, Tourette's syndrome, ticks, narcolepsy."

"Autism went from one in 10,000 in my generation... to one in every 34 kids today."
 
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yoshi121374

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Right wrong or indifferent I like his passion



I have explained the rise in diagnosis and you don't want to know the truth.

Autism hasn't increased, the way we diagnose and how many things are listed as autism Spectrum diagnosis has.
 

fatpiggy

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I have explained the rise in diagnosis and you don't want to know the truth.

Autism hasn't increased, the way we diagnose and how many things are listed as autism Spectrum diagnosis has.
That is your opinion and that is fine.

But you are just Yoshi after all. And RFK is the head of HHS.

The restt of us are glad we are trying something new.


How do you feel about this? 20% of funds go to replicating studies. I think it’s a great first step. We need to prevent another Alzheimer’s situation.


 

yoshi121374

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That is your opinion and that is fine.

But you are just Yoshi after all. And RFK is the head of HHS.

The restt of us are glad we are trying something new.


How do you feel about this? 20% of funds go to replicating studies. I think it’s a great first step. We need to prevent another Alzheimer’s situation.




I literally shared an article from the experts on the field and you ignored it.

I know it isn't sexy, but sometimes, **** isn't a conspiracy. Sometimes, you should stop digging when there literally is nothing there.

You don't want the truth. It's way less sexy
 

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I literally shared an article from the experts on the field and you ignored it.

I know it isn't sexy, but sometimes, **** isn't a conspiracy. Sometimes, you should stop digging when there literally is nothing there.

You don't want the truth. It's way less sexy
Experts are wrong sometimes, especially when they are working with falsified data.

Would be good to ensure the data is not falsified, right?


 
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Yoshi wants us to “stop digging”.

I think you speak for a very, very, very, very, very small percentage of the population when you say that.

The rest of us want answers
 

yoshi121374

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Yoshi wants us to “stop digging”.

I think you speak for a very, very, very, very, very small percentage of the population when you say that.

The rest of us want answers

I think ist stupid and dumb and makes a lot of parents think that they have something to blame.

Listen to how RFK describes people on the autism spectrum and see if the person you are listening to has any freaking clue.
 

fatpiggy

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I think ist stupid and dumb and makes a lot of parents think that they have something to blame.

Listen to how RFK describes people on the autism spectrum and see if the person you are listening to has any freaking clue.
I say this with respect because I enjoy your banter when you don’t hurl insults. But you are very arrogant / closed minded on this topic and I wish you would reconsider your stance.

It sure seems like you want us to just accept defeat.

I don’t think many people would dispute re-checking your accuracy is a bad idea. Look what happened with Alzheimer’s research.

We can agree that there may not be one cause. We can agree that re-doubling research may not find anything. We can agree that maybe it’s not more prevalent and just better diagnosed.

But those all include the qualifier “may” for the simple fact that no one knows for sure.

How sure are you that amyloid plaques cause Alzheimer’s? Because that was accepted science that we threw Billions with a B at that theory and it was accepted science for a long time and now the answer to that question is “we don’t know”
 

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I have explained the rise in diagnosis and you don't want to know the truth.

Autism hasn't increased, the way we diagnose and how many things are listed as autism Spectrum diagnosis has.
Yoshi....you don't know anything more than we do. You are not a subject matter expert. You will whine like a baby but RFK will do his work and we will get some results.

The under diagnosis hypothesis has been debunked bro. Quit leaning on that flimsy crutch.
 
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Yoshi....you don't know anything more than we do. You are not a subject matter expert. You will whine like a baby but RFK will do his work and we will get some results.

The under diagnosis hypothesis has been debunked bro. Quit leaning on that flimsy crutch.

Here is where you are completely wrong. I do know experts. I have read research.

RFK is a moron who literally had his brain eaten by a worm.
 
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Yoshi....you don't know anything more than we do. You are not a subject matter expert. You will whine like a baby but RFK will do his work and we will get some results.

The under diagnosis hypothesis has been debunked bro. Quit leaning on that flimsy crutch.

I didn't ever say underdiagnosed. Diagnosis and what is included under the Autism Spectrum disorder has changed and much more conditions that were previously reported separately such as Asperghers are now included under autism Spectrum disorder.
 
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Here is where you are completely wrong. I do know experts. I have read research.

RFK is a moron who literally had his brain eaten by a worm.
You are a layman yoshi. You work in an eye care place if I remember correctly. That's not vaccine related and opinion of your buds at the clock in Williamston don't carry any weight either. RFK knows a lot more than you bro.
 

yoshi121374

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You are a layman yoshi. You work in an eye care place if I remember correctly. That's not vaccine related and opinion of your buds at the clock in Williamston don't carry any weight either. RFK knows a lot more than you bro.

Yeah ... My wife has a Multi Categorical Special Education degree, Masters in School Counseling with an EDS, and is a BCBA and the Behavior Analyst for an Upstate School District. She has 30 years in Education with an emphasis on Special Education and ABA Therapy

I know and have access to a literal expert daily. You don't know what you are talking about about.

I manage a multi unit Eye Care Practice for a major Corporation and have over 30 years in Management. I'm not an idiot either, but she's the bright one.
 

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Yeah ... My wife has a Multi Categorical Special Education degree, Masters in School Counseling with an EDS, and is a BCBA and the Behavior Analyst for an Upstate School District. She has 30 years in Education with an emphasis on Special Education and ABA Therapy

I know and have access to a literal expert daily. You don't know what you are talking about about.

I manage a multi unit Eye Care Practice for a major Corporation and have over 30 years in Management. I'm not an idiot either, but she's the bright one.

Your wife is not a vaccine specialist.....period. You are both just people with opinions like me. Glad for you both to have what you do. We are going to find out what causes autism over the next 4 years.
 
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Your wife is not a vaccine specialist.....period. You are both just people with opinions like me. Glad for you both to have what you do. We are going to find out what causes autism over the next 4 years.

You know why the vaccine part doesn't matter?

It has nothing whatsoever to do with Autism Spectrum disorders.

Your logic is the same as this:

Covid 19 didn't exist before Trump, so Trump caused Covid 19.

Prove he didn't
 
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You know why the vaccine part doesn't matter?

It has nothing whatsoever to do with Autism Spectrum disorders.

Your logic is the same as this:

Covid 19 didn't exist before Trump, so Trump caused Covid 19.

Prove he didn't
Yoshi....this is a childish response....lol.
 
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Yoshi....this is a childish response....lol.

I know. It's literally what you use to explain every single one of your takes.

So, I ask you again, prove Trump didn't cause Covid 19.

I'm gonna keep saying it until you admit that Correlation doesn't equal causation.
 
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Yeah ... My wife has a Multi Categorical Special Education degree, Masters in School Counseling with an EDS, and is a BCBA and the Behavior Analyst for an Upstate School District. She has 30 years in Education with an emphasis on Special Education and ABA Therapy

I know and have access to a literal expert daily. You don't know what you are talking about about.

I manage a multi unit Eye Care Practice for a major Corporation and have over 30 years in Management. I'm not an idiot either, but she's the bright one.
No one is questioning your wife’s qualifications, and no one is disputing that you are a smart person

Neither of those are mutually exclusive with anything that RFK is doing
 

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Yeah ... My wife has a Multi Categorical Special Education degree, Masters in School Counseling with an EDS, and is a BCBA and the Behavior Analyst for an Upstate School District. She has 30 years in Education with an emphasis on Special Education and ABA Therapy

I know and have access to a literal expert daily. You don't know what you are talking about about.

I manage a multi unit Eye Care Practice for a major Corporation and have over 30 years in Management. I'm not an idiot either, but she's the bright one.
How does a background in counseling and eye care make you and your wife vaccine experts? I’m a former player and coach and that didn’t qualify my opinion on trans men in women’s sports but we are all supposed to take your word?
 
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How does a background in counseling and eye care make you and your wife vaccine experts? I’m a former player and coach and that didn’t qualify my opinion on trans men in women’s sports but we are all supposed to take your word?


I have shared multiple stories explaining the rise in diagnosis. It's not about vaccines

And my wife's expertise is more than counseling. Her BCBA certification is literally an expert level certification in traing and working with spectrum disorders. On top of that, she has years of experience in the field.

I didn't discount your experience as a coach, I have stated multiple times I don't think a biological male should compete against women.

What I don't like is people using this to demonize an entire community of people.
 

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I have shared multiple stories explaining the rise in diagnosis. It's not about vaccines

And my wife's expertise is more than counseling. Her BCBA certification is literally an expert level certification in traing and working with spectrum disorders. On top of that, she has years of experience in the field.

I didn't discount your experience as a coach, I have stated multiple times I don't think a biological male should compete against women.

What I don't like is people using this to demonize an entire community of people.
You seem so defensive. No one is demonizing anyone except what you are doing to RFK.

Where has anyone demonized someone?
 

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I have shared multiple stories explaining the rise in diagnosis. It's not about vaccines

And my wife's expertise is more than counseling. Her BCBA certification is literally an expert level certification in traing and working with spectrum disorders. On top of that, she has years of experience in the field.

I didn't discount your experience as a coach, I have stated multiple times I don't think a biological male should compete against women.

What I don't like is people using this to demonize an entire community of people.
Yea that’s not how I recall that interaction with you but ok.
Are you claiming there’s a 0% chance that the rise in autism is related to vaccines?
 
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Yea that’s not how I recall that interaction with you but ok. Carry on.

I'm open to seeing any quotes that I made that aren't in line with that.

I certainly can get annoyed and get more aggressive so it's possible, but I truly try to have real open dialog and discussion.
 

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I know. It's literally what you use to explain every single one of your takes.

So, I ask you again, prove Trump didn't cause Covid 19.

I'm gonna keep saying it until you admit that Correlation doesn't equal causation.
In fairness, literally ever single person that has mistaken the two has or will eventually die.
 
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Honestly i thought you were better than that.

I do way more for autism than you have ever thought of. I am responsible for a 50 year old autistic adult. I go to many autistic functions with him and see the full spectrum of autism. I am involved in the autism community in Charleston. The only argument i have made on here is that RFK is right to be looking where he is looking.

And yes, many children cannot get a date and many children can't write a poem. You want your feelings to get in the way of science. Typical democrat.

So you can kindly go **** yourself right back. You are a piece of ****. Two can play that game.