Vanderbilt showing Tennessee which tempo is best.

bulldoghair

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Tempo masterclass about who holds up and which is built for November. Vanderbilt is not supposed to beat Tennessee. That’s like Southern Miss beating State.

Slow is the new fast.
 
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bulldoghair

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Ours and Vandy’s NIL are not too far off from each other. Except we struggle with Lebby’s tempo’s “hazard pay” (25–40% premiums for injury risk) for linemen especially. More reps = more pay for play per agents. Vandy healthier scheme enables bargains (Healthiest lines in the SEC), better bangs for bucks = lower risk, better draft buzz.
Effects: State’s thin rotations (5–6 deep) perpetuate stalls/injuries (19 OL missed starts, SEC-high); Vandy’s 9–10 deep sustains clock control, resting D.
Vandy’s sustainable tempo lands bargains; MSU’s warp-speed overpays for scraps- perpetuating a depth doom loop.
 

josebrown

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Vanderbilt’s anti-tempo model proved not only viable but superior for programs operating with mid-tier recruiting and NIL resources. Volume alone does not win games; sustainable possession and defensive rest do.
And unfortunately we have the ideal circumstances and the complete opposite thinking coach… we are Mississippi State, wouldn’t have it any other way!**
 

BulldogBlitz

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Ours and Vandy’s NIL are not too far off from each other. Except we struggle with Lebby’s tempo’s “hazard pay” (25–40% premiums for injury risk) for linemen especially. More reps = more pay for play per agents. Vandy healthier scheme enables bargains (Healthiest lines in the SEC), better bangs for bucks = lower risk, better draft buzz.
Effects: State’s thin rotations (5–6 deep) perpetuate stalls/injuries (19 OL missed starts, SEC-high); Vandy’s 9–10 deep sustains clock control, resting D.
Vandy’s sustainable tempo lands bargains; MSU’s warp-speed overpays for scraps- perpetuating a depth doom loop.
Even if they dont hold them to the gen pop standard, vandy players are going to be a whole lot smarter than ours, even if they might make nearly the same.
 

00Dawg

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Doesn’t Mississippi as well? Are their fast-paced-offense stats in the areas of injury and stamina as bad as ours?
 

Olegreyboy

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About 50 years ago I heard that Vanderbilt had a connection with David Lipscomb Univ. where their student athletes could take courses to maintain eligibility. I wonder if that’s still true.
 
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85Bears

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Tennessee defense has been horrible all year. They aren’t good. They will get pounded by a big ten team in a bowl game
 

RocketDawg

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About 50 years ago I heard that Vanderbilt had a connection with David Lipscomb Univ. where their student athletes could take courses to maintain eligibility. I wonder if that’s still true.
Wasn't it Belmont, not David Lipscomb? DL is a private, Church of Christ school, I think.
 

Olegreyboy

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I googled it and it is David Lipscomb. They may also be able to go Belmont. I’ll google that.
 

bulldoghair

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Doesn’t Mississippi as well? Are their fast-paced-offense stats in the areas of injury and stamina as bad as ours?
Ole Miss isn’t quite as fast, as they mix tempo. They sustain and balance—longer drives—Ole Miss 32:12 TOP/game, (#12 nationally mean fewer returns, dropping defensive snaps to 72.5 (#28 nationally). Result: Minimal drift (Ole Miss +3% 4th-Q D efficiency vs. State’s -18% plunge. OL/rotation- Ole Miss (7-9); State (5-7). Also Ole Miss moves the chains, better 3rd down conversions. They have a real run games. They mix tempo with huddle. They finish drives. And again, they rotate bodies, on both sides.
 

00Dawg

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Ole Miss isn’t quite as fast, as they mix tempo. They sustain and balance—longer drives—Ole Miss 32:12 TOP/game, (#12 nationally mean fewer returns, dropping defensive snaps to 72.5 (#28 nationally). Result: Minimal drift (Ole Miss +3% 4th-Q D efficiency vs. State’s -18% plunge. OL/rotation- Ole Miss (7-9); State (5-7). Also Ole Miss moves the chains, better 3rd down conversions. They have a real run games. They mix tempo with huddle. They finish drives. And again, they rotate bodies, on both sides.
Given all that plus their offensive snaps per game are 74.9 to our 77.6, I’m going to say there’s an argument to be made that the answer is a slight adjustment to our current system and roster rather than swapping to Vandy’s.
 
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bulldoghair

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Given that their offensive snaps per game are 74.9 to our 77.6, I’m going to say there’s an argument to be made that the answer is a slight adjustment to our current system and roster rather than swapping to Vandy’s.
Our NIL is closer to Vandys than to Ole Miss’s right now. You can go fast and win (Ole Miss) or go slow and win (Vanderbilt).
The only guaranteed way to lose is to go fast, suck at it, and still refuse to stop (Mississippi State).