the line is drawn by the folk that go to the schools, that taxes pay for the schools, that have children in the schools. It is time out for fleeing to the burbs and leaving your icons for somebody else to maintain.
VHSL Schools Name Changes in 2021
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I don't get it. Not sure why none of these school names were brought up as a problem in the 80's/90's/00's.
you haven't seen anything yet, according to the Census Bureau by 2030 the nonwhite population will be over 51% of the general population.
Mostly hispanic. They get to be lumped in with us white devils as well I guess. I know my lovely hispanic wife takes a lot of racism in her line of work and that racism isnt from whitey.
actually the name now is Latinx and that is not a race some are white and some are black and some are brown. Also included in the brown are a growing group of mixture race folk.
Ah yes, we need to divide each other up even more. I forgot about that socialist talking point.
Whatever. Point stands, most of these immigrants are hispanic. And most will get lumped in with whitey, which is great, welcome to the club folks.
We tend to miss some of the other reasons the Civil War was fought. When we have discussions about this war it's always about slavery. A side note to the war was the fact that none of the southern states voted for Lincoln. The South felt like they did not have a voice. It went well beyond just slavery.
This is where this conversation will have its greatest impact. This is where people will be open-minded to different ideas. Here on this HS sports message board. Thank goodness we’re brave enough to have these honest and genuine conversations here.
Schools changing their mascot from Indians to something is no surprise. William & Mary did it, Blacksburg did it, etc. Gar-Field will be unique as they will be the only Red Wolves in VHSL.
There’s quite a few “Indians” mascots still around. Powhatan HS, Stafford HS. I bet there are others.
There were seven prior to Gar-Field changing to the Red Wolves. The six remaining schools are:
Powhatan
Stafford
Rural Retreat
Northumberland
Fort Defiance
Southampton
The formerly Stonewall-Jackson High School in Quicksburg is now the Mountain View High School - Home of the Generals.
What do you do when there is more than one high school in the same "neighborhood" (i.e. John Marshall and Henrico High)? Also, the high schools in New York are not numbered. Most are named after people, mainly presidents. The elementary and middle schools are numbered but even some of them have names as well. Former P.S. 069 Jackson Heights School and I.S. 230 student myself!
They are very close by but aren’t in the same neighborhood. John Marshall pulls from the Northside of Richmond City and Henrico is more or less the start of Eastern Henrico County. They don’t like one another nor have anything but their school’s proximity in common. Now I could give a crap if they named a school 3puttcharlie High, I just get tired of everything being politically correct and this cancel culture that has taken over. Feels like you can’t make anybody happy anymore. You and I are both black male educators and I’m sure we could both give at minimum 15 things that would benefit our kids than a school’s name change.
depends on the name.
kids in Hanover County are very happy not representing Lee-Davis anymore.
Yeah I wasn’t a fan of that either..It should’ve been called Mechanicsville a long time ago.
And when Branch gets through with that, they'll head back west and help kill off the Hurley Rebels, as Buchanan County will consol. them w/ Twin Valley & Grungy in '24 or '25. The new bldg. will put a h.s. BACK in the county seat after 60 years, but will likely have a 'neutral' name. My guesses are Southern Gap Elks or Southern View Elks (since they'll be on new Rt. 121 between other consolidated 'views'... Ridgeview [Clintwood/Haysi/Ervinton] and River View (Iaeger/Big Creek - Bradshaw, WV)
I personally view Warriors and Chiefs differently that Indians. A warrior is a brave or experienced soldier or fighter while a chief is a leader or ruler of a people or clan. So either name can be used for any time of group, not just Indians or Native Americans. Most Native Americans prefer to be called Native or Indigenous instead of Indians (especially since Columbus called them Indians because he thought he made it to the West Indies).
so where have you seen that - all the ones I have seen (particularly in VA) have been Indians. Henrico, Monacan Indian River, Kempsville, etc.
Columbus had no idea - he thought he was in India.
We historians have transitioned to referring to the indigenous peoples as American Indians and not Native Americans. Native constitutes where you were born and that would make about 300 million of us Native Americans. "Native Americans" aren't native to the Americas as they migrated from East Asia which also makes that term problematic.
well if you are going there - they migrated to Asia from Africa. the question is what do the people call themselves. Historians should finally be transitioning to that.
Yea but Powhatan is actually named after Chief
Powhatan I think wasn’t he Pocahontas’s father
A big part ow Va History
Powhatan I think wasn’t he Pocahontas’s father
A big part ow Va History
Oops Sorry Powhatan was named after the Powhatan people which Pocahontas was a part of her other name was Matoaca so those schools are I kinda like Florida State paying
Respect in name to the native people of that are
Respect in name to the native people of that are
The Southern Gap Elks - Go for like a Milwaukee Bucks theme (Hunter Green/Purple/Silver)?
Virginia school board poised to restore names of Confederate generals to schools
In 2020 the school board changed the names of Stonewall Jackson High School to Mountain View High School and Ashby-Lee Elementary School was renamed Honey Run Elementary School.Now, under pressure from some parents -- and specifically some alumni of the schools -- the board is reconsidering the change.
According to one board member, the prior decision to make the change was suspicious and needs to be reviewed.
alumnus states that Westmoreland HS will be keeping the Eagle mascot and the W&L colors.
They were going to Name a building at the University of Washington for Pappy Boydton
And the Anti War folks in Seattle said no
Read his Bio and Also the Military Bases in the south that were named after Confederate Soldiers the reason this was done was it was the US government trying to appease the South as they were trying to get the country back together
Doesn’t make it right but it may help explain the thinking of the time it’s also hard in the present to know how people will be viewed in later years
Also New Jersey has a Malcolm X Shabbazz HS
But also Wake Forest has their Basketball Arena Named after Lawrence Joel a War Hero of Color
Read his Bio unbelievable American Hero
And the Anti War folks in Seattle said no
Read his Bio and Also the Military Bases in the south that were named after Confederate Soldiers the reason this was done was it was the US government trying to appease the South as they were trying to get the country back together
Doesn’t make it right but it may help explain the thinking of the time it’s also hard in the present to know how people will be viewed in later years
Also New Jersey has a Malcolm X Shabbazz HS
But also Wake Forest has their Basketball Arena Named after Lawrence Joel a War Hero of Color
Read his Bio unbelievable American Hero
Racist gonna racist........
George Washington had his slaves teeth pulled to make his dentures.....
George Washington had his slaves teeth pulled to make his dentures.....