Walker Wood Injury; What Happened?

Adolph Rollingover

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Don't cast such a wide net. The chant toward Walker Wood was addressed quickly and decisively. No place for such which I agree.

I don't want to hijack this thread more than it is already but those classless kids are really well behaved caring kids
 

jauk11

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Compared to that crap you just posted it is the holy grail of intelligence. If you want to succeed in life then you will. Success is a choice. Just like my housekeeper and how much Tide she puts in my washer machine.

I have always been blessed IMO, but LOL at this.
 

Dr. H Lecter

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trinity been cheating since the 90's. NO, they were cheating in the '70 when I played little league football. and trinity takes cheap shots, and the refs don't call it. I should have clocked a ref my sr. year when I was the victim of the the second cheap shot on me right in front of the ref, and he did NOTHING.

In much the same way opposing fans say UK Cal pays the most money for recruits......haters gonna hate I believe is the truth of the matter.
 

jauk11

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would have went to three Class 2A state championships if I had!

Don't you think there would have been some tradeoffs, to start with you probably wouldn't have been nearly as big a star on that team, would have missed the other players and families that you grew up with, and as far as i am concerned would have cheated the people that had followed your career., etc etc.

My brother two years older than me was recruited by Corbin the year before they won the state championship, ended up with a scholarship offer from the University of Washington from playing in the Army stationed at Ft Lewis, but got married instead. My oldest brother was the captain of the first football team at my small high school and we all played football there, I can't imagine one of us playing somewhere else.

Of course it is a different world today, including less loyalty IMO.
 

JW PRPcoach

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I bet if you go back previous years you will see threads that read the same way. If you went back to the 2012 season and substituted Lafayette for PRP it would be shockingly similar. Trinity plays hard, some would say dirty but that's their opinion.
I personally don't like Beatty - I've had limited contact with him as a rival coach and won't get into that on here, but they guy can flat coach. He is a great offensive mind. I don't like the fact he keeps his starters in for as long as he does most of the time, but that's my take.
What's funny though is how guys get on these threads and act like everything is fair. Dr. Lecter comes out from under his rock and talks bad about all opponents. While what the Lafayette kid did to the ref is 100% uncalled for, the topic was about Wood and his injury. trinity folk will take every opportunity to hijack any discussion and shift blame to the other party. Need a new back - lets comb the city to find one. No one fast enough in Louisville, no prob, we can go to southern Indiana- we'll get em eligible.
I don't blame them for doing it. The problem is that the powers that be, like the KHSAA, are too scared to do anything about it. The playing fields are too unequal for there to be true competition. Until more is done to separate the "haves" and "have nots" you will continue to see the same teams play each other virtually every year in BG the first weekend of Dec.
 
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Dirk2Bowie

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Compared to that crap you just posted it is the holy grail of intelligence. If you want to succeed in life then you will. Success is a choice. Just like my housekeeper and how much Tide she puts in my washer machine.

So the kid with one parent thats addicted to pills and lives in a trailer up a hollar in Letcher County simple "chose" to NOT succeed unlike the kid born to Cal or Pitino? Interesting...learn something every day.
 

Ollie.ksr

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The public schools give FREE tuition as well . Quit complaing about students and parents rejecting mediocrity . That's what America is all about. The right to excel . To rise above the crowd . Not to be average and accept the mediocrity and dumbing down philosophy of teachers unions.
Umm....my daughter when to DuPont Manual. Better school than any of your private schools and it was free. Don't be an idiot.

Was it hard to get in? I'm not sure, because I don't know what the criteria was for her.

And if you can honestly tell me that EVERY kid pays the same amount of tuition based on the same merit, you would have to prove it to me.
 

Randallyoung

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So, who took this shot at WW?
Do not recall the players number but he targeted Walker after Walker had already released the ball. He may not have meant to target Walkers knee but it looked very much like he was trying to deliver a hurting blow. Most of the time I have seen this type of action penalized. Not in this case and there were three refs watching this take place.
 

JumperJack

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Trinity recruits every student in the school. It's 14k to go there. Not free. It takes quite a recruiting sales pitch to recruit 1300 students who pay a lot.

Free is a huge advantage. Maybe some prefer excellence to free.


Is this real or sarcasm? You know very well that not every kid pays the same tuition, and some pay none.
 

mtn cat1

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The shot on Walker was a cheap shot and appeared to be an attempt to injure him. I was at the game and witnessed that. The Lafayette player that knocked off the referee's hat was totally out of line and should not have committed his infraction. No excuse for that. The game was very spirited and emotions were high on both sides. There were many personal fouls against both teams. There appeared to be more after Walker was injured. However Trinity caused the majority of these. Trinity also shouted where is Walker after he was injured. This was uncalled for.
Apparently the officials permitted the game to get out of hand!!!
 

mtn cat1

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Lol. Okay buddy. Reading comprehension obviously isn't your friend.

Saying he's lucky that someone didn't do something stupid does not equate to the player would be justified in attacking him. Are you 12?
I cannot validate what I heard, but Wood's injury was not supposed to be as serious as first reported! I pray that this is true!
 

jauk11

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Do not recall the players number but he targeted Walker after Walker had already released the ball. He may not have meant to target Walkers knee but it looked very much like he was trying to deliver a hurting blow. Most of the time I have seen this type of action penalized. Not in this case and there were three refs watching this take place.

There is only one ref, and if any other official was watching the QB then he wasn't doing his job. It is the referee's job to protect the QB, especially after the ball is thrown, he misses a lot of the ball game that way--------and so do the other officials if they are concentrating on their assigned duty.
 
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optimus-blue

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if this were a one time incident with Lafayette I would understand but it's always something with them. Poor leadership by the adults equals poor sportsmanship by the kids.I witnessed the most disgusting act in a sporting event a couple years ago with the Scott County Lafayette fight. Shaw and crew where given a pass then and I am sure they will be given one now
 

Adolph Rollingover

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Do not recall the players number but he targeted Walker after Walker had already released the ball. He may not have meant to target Walkers knee but it looked very much like he was trying to deliver a hurting blow. Most of the time I have seen this type of action penalized. Not in this case and there were three refs watching this take place.

Problem with eye witness testimony is it becomes clouded with our own perceptions. Might want to take a look at the play again, especially the part you remember about him targeting his knee to deliver a hurting blow.
 

Dr. H Lecter

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Is this real or sarcasm? You know very well that not every kid pays the same tuition, and some pay none.

At Bellarmine no student pays the full tuition. That is noting unusual for an institution that has a very high price while having a method for allowing students other than the very wealthy to apply for grants etc.... It allows for diversity. Trinity has a very blue collar diverse student population and always has. As alumni we donate to a scholarship fund that allows the needy the ability to have a reduced tuition. You should applaud that rather than dismiss it as something bad.
 

Beatle Bum

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I sent my kids to public schools. But, I realize that if the private schools shut their doors tomorrow, the public schools in Louisville would collapse, absent some large tax hike. The influx of thousands of new students would break the bank. When you have 1300 boys at a school known for having the best football teams, you are likely to have an exceptional team.

BTW, the private elementary schools in Louisville are football feeders for the private AND public schools. Those who like HS football should be thankful.
 

TeoJ

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Walker's dad is a friend of mine. I messaged him today asking about his boy and he said something "popped" in Walker's knee. They're getting an mri Monday.




Tell Walker because he chose UK he is a CAT for life and BBN will be behind him all the way.
 
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TruBluCatFan

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If public schools give free tuition I'd like to know when and where.

You can't be serious with this can you? I tried to see if I was missing some sarcasm but can't see it. You do know we are talking about K-12 schools and not colleges, right?

Lafayette lost twice to the Rocks by a combined total of about 100 points. If you cannot play big boy football out in the state than drop down to 5A or 4A. They lost. Grow a pair.

You do know that isn't how it works, right? Can't just tell the KHSAA you want to play in a smaller class.
 

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Don't you think there would have been some tradeoffs, to start with you probably wouldn't have been nearly as big a star on that team, would have missed the other players and families that you grew up with, and as far as i am concerned would have cheated the people that had followed your career., etc etc.

My brother two years older than me was recruited by Corbin the year before they won the state championship, ended up with a scholarship offer from the University of Washington from playing in the Army stationed at Ft Lewis, but got married instead. My oldest brother was the captain of the first football team at my small high school and we all played football there, I can't imagine one of us playing somewhere else.

Of course it is a different world today, including less loyalty IMO.
that's part of the reason I stayed home!
 

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Reportedly 31 flags in that game. Trinity 17 for 186 yds, Lafayette 14 for 140. I sure would like to know how many personal fouls were called. It sounds like both teams probably needed someone tossed before the 4th quarter reached crisis. 326 penalty yards??? I'm betting on at least 8 PF in that game.
 

Randallyoung

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There is only one ref, and if any other official was watching the QB then he wasn't doing his job. It is the referee's job to protect the QB, especially after the ball is thrown, he misses a lot of the ball game that way--------and so do the other officials if they are concentrating on their assigned duty.
I appreciate the lesson on who has what responsibility. Fact remains I have seen flags thrown all over a high school football field for infractions that I am pretty certain were not that specific officials duty. There were three officials in the vicinity of the hit when Walker was hit, at least by my recolection. Regardless of who's job it is to call the penalty I have seen flags thrown for semlemingly lesser infractions. JMO. As with everything, everyone has an opinion.
 

Randallyoung

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Problem with eye witness testimony is it becomes clouded with our own perceptions. Might want to take a look at the play again, especially the part you remember about him targeting his knee to deliver a hurting blow.
I meant I did not think he was targeting Walker's knees. I do feel he was trying to hit him hard enough to hurt him in some fashion. I also feel that this should have been penalized. This is my opinion and i am just as welcome to an opinion as anyone seen on this opinion board.
 
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I bet if you go back previous years you will see threads that read the same way. If you went back to the 2012 season and substituted Lafayette for PRP it would be shockingly similar. Trinity plays hard, some would say dirty but that's their opinion.
I personally don't like Beatty - I've had limited contact with him as a rival coach and won't get into that on here, but they guy can flat coach. He is a great offensive mind. I don't like the fact he keeps his starters in for as long as he does most of the time, but that's my take.
What's funny though is how guys get on these threads and act like everything is fair. Dr. Lecter comes out from under his rock and talks bad about all opponents. While what the Lafayette kid did to the ref is 100% uncalled for, the topic was about Wood and his injury. trinity folk will take every opportunity to hijack any discussion and shift blame to the other party. Need a new back - lets comb the city to find one. No one fast enough in Louisville, no prob, we can go to southern Indiana- we'll get em eligible.
I don't blame them for doing it. The problem is that the powers that be, like the KHSAA, are too scared to do anything about it. The playing fields are too unequal for there to be true competition. Until more is done to separate the "haves" and "have nots" you will continue to see the same teams play each other virtually every year in BG the first weekend of Dec.

Coach, your exactly right. I moved back here in 1974 so my two kids would go to UK, just as I did. I did some substitute teaching at Eastern High School, even though I was flying full time with Northwest Airlines, so I could coach part time. I watched Trinity and St. X pull the best players away from Eastern High School. Coach Peak had a running back, who was really good. Trinity got him from Eastern and Coach Peak resigned from coaching. Trinity and St. X don't care about being fair, only winning.

OLD STOLL FIELD GUY!
 

Poetax

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The public schools give FREE tuition as well . Quit complaing about students and parents rejecting mediocrity . That's what America is all about. The right to excel . To rise above the crowd . Not to be average and accept the mediocrity and dumbing down philosophy of teachers unions.


It used to be what it was about, today everybody gets a trophy.
 

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Coach, your exactly right. I moved back here in 1974 so my two kids would go to UK, just as I did. I did some substitute teaching at Eastern High School, even though I was flying full time with Northwest Airlines, so I could coach part time. I watched Trinity and St. X pull the best players away from Eastern High School. Coach Peak had a running back, who was really good. Trinity got him from Eastern and Coach Peak resigned from coaching. Trinity and St. X don't care about being fair, only winning.

OLD STOLL FIELD GUY!
What is unfair about a kid choosing Trinity or St. X over Eastern?
 

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@PRPcoach Your take seems to strike against what Coach Miller has done for PRP baseball and what Coach Mabry has done for PRP Basketball. They do more than collect players and roll the balls out.
 

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What?!? Trinity plays dirty?? I don't believe. They've only been cheating since the 90s. I mean James quick dad worked at the autozone in shively on Dixie highway. That 9 dollar an hour sure did pay his tuition pretty easily I guess
Your point is clear, however your delivery leads me to believe that you may not understand that this issue is a double-edged sword. If you take away the Catholic schools ability to recruit, you also take away access to a better education from those kids/families that could not otherwise afford it.
 
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JW PRPcoach

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So Adolph, by that statement, are you implying that the thing that separates Trinity from their competition is coaching only? That take is comical.

I'm not naive enough to say that recruiting doesn't occur in most sports and schools - but to lump a school like PRP, a neighborhood public school, with Trinity is apples and oranges. Coach Mabrey and Coach Miller have succeeded despite their limited "recruiting" base, although I will admit that it's easier to do that in their respective sports. Both of their programs attract kids from the area due to their track records, but both also do a tremendous job developing these kids into ball players.

Look, I have a ton of respect for Trinity, St. X, etc. - they also develop their talent, etc..I don't blame them one bit for taking advantage of the opportunity of casting a wider net for student athletes. However, it does tilt the competitive advantage towards them. That also explains how schools like Male do so well; they get students from every zip code in Jeff Co.

Last decade, Trinity made the decision to take basketball more seriously. Look at the results.
If anything, my take supports the job that Mabrey and Miller have done, not diminishes it.
 

Dr. H Lecter

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I bet if you go back previous years you will see threads that read the same way. If you went back to the 2012 season and substituted Lafayette for PRP it would be shockingly similar. Trinity plays hard, some would say dirty but that's their opinion.
I personally don't like Beatty - I've had limited contact with him as a rival coach and won't get into that on here, but they guy can flat coach. He is a great offensive mind. I don't like the fact he keeps his starters in for as long as he does most of the time, but that's my take.
What's funny though is how guys get on these threads and act like everything is fair. Dr. Lecter comes out from under his rock and talks bad about all opponents. While what the Lafayette kid did to the ref is 100% uncalled for, the topic was about Wood and his injury. trinity folk will take every opportunity to hijack any discussion and shift blame to the other party. Need a new back - lets comb the city to find one. No one fast enough in Louisville, no prob, we can go to southern Indiana- we'll get em eligible.
I don't blame them for doing it. The problem is that the powers that be, like the KHSAA, are too scared to do anything about it. The playing fields are too unequal for there to be true competition. Until more is done to separate the "haves" and "have nots" you will continue to see the same teams play each other virtually every year in BG the first weekend of Dec.

If reciting stats of actual games played is "talking bad" then I am sorry. Trinity has no business playing those teams IMO because it will never end well. Do you really think Eastern's staff and players want to play Trinity? Their hope is that they dont get their students hurt. Eastern's only benefit from having Trinity come to EHS to play is that it will make their athletics department enjoy their biggest revenue day of the season.

Your view of Coach Beatty is fairly universal. He's not a warm and fuzzy guy. Making people, parents, like him is not his job. He doesnt care. His job is to win football games and he does that better than anyone else. Offensive genius...that credit goes to Coach Coverdale (OC). Trinity runs a college style program. It is the tradition of winning and competing that makes it great. The false "recruiting" narrative is simply used to diminish its success. How many D1 athletes does Trinity put on the field each year? It never really produces a ton of D1's. The national champion team was great....because of the CSAA seniors...not the D1 James Quick or Jason Hatcher.

Finally...there is no more closely watched and scrutinized program than Trinity. Much chatter and no evidence. Great players want to play there for OBVIOUS reasons. If you love football...is it wrong to play at the school that loves it more than any other?
 

Beatle Bum

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I think people should be very careful saying a teenager intentionally hurt another player. I did not see the play, but it is not uncommon for us to not realize what is in another person's heart. I don't know the kid, but message board comments about high schooler's intent is strange territory.

So Adolph, by that statement, are you implying that the thing that separates Trinity from their competition is coaching only? That take is comical.

I'm not naive enough to say that recruiting doesn't occur in most sports and schools - but to lump a school like PRP, a neighborhood public school, with Trinity is apples and oranges. Coach Mabrey and Coach Miller have succeeded despite their limited "recruiting" base, although I will admit that it's easier to do that in their respective sports. Both of their programs attract kids from the area due to their track records, but both also do a tremendous job developing these kids into ball players.

Look, I have a ton of respect for Trinity, St. X, etc. - they also develop their talent, etc..I don't blame them one bit for taking advantage of the opportunity of casting a wider net for student athletes. However, it does tilt the competitive advantage towards them. That also explains how schools like Male do so well; they get students from every zip code in Jeff Co.

Last decade, Trinity made the decision to take basketball more seriously. Look at the results.
If anything, my take supports the job that Mabrey and Miller have done, not diminishes it.

I hear baseball coaches from other schools complain about PRP. Does PRP recruit baseball players?
 

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Are you the same loucatfan that started the thread on here about mitch letting the fans know if the video and PA systems were going to be replaced before the season ticket renewal deadline few years ago? When they were renewed but with no advance notice and with the loan that couldn't be raised until two years after originally scheduled was protested by the profs---------and he was able to replace it in a day or so?

If so, I had a high opinion of you, but I don't share this opinion by you. .
Yep , that was me. We'll just have to disagree on this one. I have always felt the parents of private and religious school students get screwed . My belief is they pay their taxes and should be able to educate their students with voucher type stipends at any school they want.

BTW I am a lawyer very familiar with constitutional law. There really is not a constitutional problem with it. If so such things as GI bill college grants which can be spent at any college would also be unconstitutional . Its simply because catholics are in the minority that teachers unions and public school administrators have prevented competition and fairness in the system. Kind of like Bill Clinton 's I did it because I can. Public schools lobbying successfully against vouchers to avoid competition because they can.

If the public schools were so great the catholic schools would not be able to recruit from them.

When the history of the rise and fall of the USA is written I firmly believe one of the main reasons the authors will give for the decline of America is teachers unions and poor public education.If you don't believe me do some reading on where our public education systems ranks in the world.

OK, Manual is the best school public or private in this State . I get that. However other than that the Catholic high schools and a few private ones are a better option for many students IMHO.

I believe in freedom and peoples' right to determine their own destiny without government interference. If a single mom having trouble making ends meet is locked into a public school and wants to have what she believes is better for her kids what's the problem with scholarships paid by others to allow her to do it. Or government vouchers . What's the problem with Charter schools giving the parent more of a voice in the education of their kids.

One explanation of Brexit and the Trump phenomenon is that people are sick and tired of BIG GOVERNMENT DICTATING WHAT'S BEST FOR THEM.

Jauk, I have also followed your posts for many years and have a very high opinion of you as well.

On this one we'll just have to agree to disagree.

Conservatively Yours.


PEACE

Lou
 
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