Was yesterday's shooting an
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Work place violence? In today's times (again, my OPINION), when an event like this happens and it's killing 14 and wounding close to 20 others, then that is a ACT OF DOMESTIC TERRORISM. We are getting like the NFL and trying to define what a catch is or is not. We are doing this with terrorism. We are trying to define it. To me, it's simple. Sorry if I offended anyone, but that's how I feel.
Yes it was a mass-shooting...there is in my opinion a difference between terrorism and work place violence.
This is what ticks me off.
Didn't report attackers preparing, afraid of the PC crowd
"A man who has been working in the area said he noticed a half-dozen Middle Eastern men in the area in recent weeks, but decided not to report anything since he did not wish to racially profile those people."
Didn't report attackers preparing, afraid of the PC crowd
"A man who has been working in the area said he noticed a half-dozen Middle Eastern men in the area in recent weeks, but decided not to report anything since he did not wish to racially profile those people."
We need to be alert and vigilant. Regardless of what people look like, if it seems odd then it needs to be brought to somebody's attention. Should we be suspicious of every ME looking man/woman? No. Should we be suspicious of ME looking people behaving in a suspicious way? Yes. Just as we should for black, white, asian, eskimo people ... and pygmy goats. Especially the pygmy goats.
Thanks for calling out trolling posts even if they are coming from an individual with similar political leanings. We need more of that type of actions around here.
"See something, say something" is what the government has encouraged us to do. But a school and police department in Irving, TX, is being sued for $15M for doing just that.
If you're referring to Martin/Zimmerman ... Zimmerman did bring it to somebody's attention and then went completely against the advice he was given from the people's attention he brought it to.
I wish to hell we never had any shootings. The people that died deserve a little respect. We still don't know what exactly happened. There will be plenty of time for comment.
Some restraint would always be advisable in these situations, but people seem all too eager to head for their fox holes.
I agree. We have had enough conversations on this board on the overall topic and most of the posts is the same stuff from both sides. Personally, not interested in discussing things that have already been beaten to death unless it has a different point being made
That's not accurate. He alegedly followed the advice and returned to his vehicle where he was engaged by Martin. The part about him following the advice is believable because the altercation took place next to his vehicle. The part about Martin then engaging him after he broke off is also believable as per my above. The part unknown is what actually happened as Martin engaged him after he (Zimmerman) broke contact.
I thought the advice was to not make contact or approach or follow him in the first place? If I'm mistaken about that then my bad.
Here is what I thought happened:
1) there were vandalisms/break-ins in the neighborhood
2) Zimmerman thought he saw a potential suspect
3) he followed and called 911
4) 911 told him not to engage and wait for law enforcement
5) he continued to follow and engage anyway
6) continue with what you said above regarding Martin following to vehicle
If I have something wrong in that, please correct me. (and I don't mean that snarkily, if I'm wrong about the sequence of events then I want to know that I'm wrong)
Funny how you jumped right in with doc on the trolling posts when it was a crazy white guy shooting up a planned parenthood office. I guess airport is just a better person than you.
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Unless it's a white guy shooting up an abortion clinic or killing a black guy - then you're all for it - esp. if there's a chance to talk about gun control.
You are almost as dumb as that pos loser. I didn't make any posts on the Colorado shooting as i haven't on this shooting. I have posted calling you out for being a fool but everyone knows that already. I also posted about Hillary' s actions calling out the nra is no big deal. Are you going to be a liar like dave the rest of your life?
Did Hilary call out the NRA? I saw a tweet saying we need to end the gun violence but nothing specific about the NRA. O'Malley did tweet something specifically calling out the NRA, but I didn't see it from Hilary.
I have no idea what Hillary did. My post is bad phrasing. I posted on a Hillary thread and i called out the nra. Sorry for the confusion.
And come to think of it, i did make one post after the Colorado shooting saying the same stuff i have said many times. Supporters of the nra have blood on their hands. To make these pantywipes happy, i willsay it again if they want. I don't need a mass shooting to express the wrongs of the nra and their supporters
Why are you treating a mental health issue as a gun problem? What (in this guy's back ground) would have prevented him from owning a gun? what about the pipe bombs? how would tougher gun laws prevented those from being built? and isn't this a bit like the fort hood shooting? funny how that still isn't considered an act of terror.....
OK, thanks. I thought there was testimony from Martin's girlfriend that she heard Zimmerman confront Martin and Martin asked him why he was following him or something like that? So that was before he called 911? I'm with you on him losing them and going back to his vehicle, I just thought that the stuff from the girlfriend had been pieced together to be after Zimmerman called 911. It must have been before.
Right. That post has to do with a thread that is 8 years old and not the Colorado shooting. You are too dumb to understand context of a conversation.
That post was in a thread by doc started monday morning. You lying little hypocrite.
Just to clear this up...the confrontation did not occur next to Zimmerman's vehicle. Zimmerman said he was heading back to his vehicle when he was confronted by Martin, but they were not close to his vehicle.
Were any pipe bombs actually set off? Did anyone actually die or get injured from any of the pipe bombs? 355 mass shootings to date this year and you want to deflect to pipe bombs?
I'm sure you looked it up and you are a poster I trust in what you say so I will defer to you. I may have had my facts incorrect and will stand corrected.
They probably just made the pipe bombs for July 4th fireworks shows.
Who is trying to deflect here? A couple hundred drug shootings have nothing to do with San Bernandino.
I studied that case closely. This gets confused a lot because he was returning to the truck at the time so all in all it doesn't change the point you were making much.
Deflect? The pipe bombs were part of the attack! The fact that they didn't go off was just a matter of luck and timing. So how would any gun control measure have prevented them from being built? Or what about pressure cooker bombs?
Deaths in the last ten years by pipe bombs = about a dozen or so
Deaths in the last ten years by guns/mass shootings = tens of thousands
Keep going, you're on the right track.
With that dis-proportionality you want me to define mass shootings? [laughing]
The folks that keep track of those statistics say four or more injured or dead in the same shooting (at the same time and place).
The folks that keep track of those statistics say four or more injured or dead in the same shooting (at the same time and place).