Watched Bama and Oklahoma

TaleofTwoDogs

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and can appreciate what a 4 & 5 star OL and DL can do for a team. Nasty. Guess we need to start passing the collection box at the games to buy some linemen.
 

Colonel Kang

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We've already got the $. The problem is that the good ones go to about 5-7 schools out of HS & don't transfer
 

thatsbaseball

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I'll say it again. For a team in our position the second most important jobs the coaching staff (behind HC) used to be high school recruiters now it's the NIL scouts / evaluators .
 
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anon1768925248

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We've already got the $. The problem is that the good ones go to about 5-7 schools out of HS & don't transfer
Ole Miss has been able to get good transfers on the regular and our offensive system is nearly identical. Our coaches need to figure it out. I’m tired of their excuses. They supposedly have 30 million dollars to buy players this year. Get it done
 

anon1768925248

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Where do you guys get your information that State has the money necessary?

who is saying State has 30million? For football for 2026?

thanks
There is a person or 2 on the pay board that are very in tune with Charlie and the collective who put that out a few days ago.
 
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85Bears

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Transfer portal signings will quickly show we don’t have bama, Ohio state, Texas money. Payboard says a lot of ridiculous things, like the story ChromeHawk only got paid if He played a certain amount, which is made up BS
 
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anon1768925248

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Transfer portal signings will quickly show we don’t have bama, Ohio state, Texas money. Payboard says a lot of ridiculous things, like the story ChromeHawk only got paid if He played a certain amount, which is made up BS
No one claims we have money like those 3 teams. That doesn’t mean we should not recruit better than what we have been with the resources available. There are plenty of good players that they don’t sign that we have the money to get if we have competent coaches. When the money is equal in both sides for a solid SEC player we can’t be losing them to Missouri and Kentucky and teams like that. We were not getting outbid for those kids. Our coaches just sucked at recruiting them. Now if Texas Tech or A&M or Ohio State get a kid over us, we probably got outbid. But they can’t sign everyone.
 
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85Bears

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No one claims we have money like those 3 teams. That doesn’t mean we should not recruit better than what we have been with the resources available. There are plenty of good players that they don’t sign that we have the money to get if we have competent coaches.
Ok, so payroll went from 15 million to 30 million ? According to ”sources” , I’m calling BS.
 
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anon1768925248

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Ok, so payroll went from 15 million to 30 million ? According to ”sources” , I’m calling BS.
Our payroll was about 18 million last year and we had millions more that we did not spend because our coaches could not sign players that were good enough to receive that type money so they banked it for this year and then fundraised on top of that. Selmon is doing his job in that area. It’s why so many are pissed at Lebby. He asked for resources, got them, and has pissed them away with buddy hires that can’t recruit. He needs to get a staff that knows what they are doing on the recruiting trail. This isn’t instacart. The money is equal on both sides a lot and you still have to recruit when that happens. Outside the handful of schools that have unlimited NIL, everyone else makes an offer just to get them in the door to talk to the kid. It’s like a cover charge to get in the door. After that you just recruit the same as always.
 
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Leeshouldveflanked

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I don’t think Ole Miss had that much more money than we had this season, just better coaching , better evaluation and a lot easier schedule.
 

85Bears

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Our payroll was about 18 million last year and we had millions more that we did not spend because our coaches could not sign players that were good enough to receive that type money so they banked it for this year and then fundraised on top of that. Selmon is doing his job in that area. It’s why so many are pissed at Lebby. He asked for resources, got them, and has pissed them away with buddy hires that can’t recruit. He needs to get a staff that knows what they are doing on the recruiting trail. This isn’t instacart. The money is equal on both sides a lot and you still have to recruit when that happens.
Gotta link to any of that ? Smells like A Col Kang pep talk

i am positive we won’t see a Texas Tech transfer portal haul, we will see more G5 bargain bin specials.
 
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anon1768925248

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Gotta link to any of that ? Smells like A Col Kang pep talk

i am positive we won’t see a Texas Tech transfer portal haul, we will see more G5 bargain bin specials.
The people that cover us on the pay board have put it out. You can believe it or not, but I know them personally enough to know they are not lying. It also does not help them to put out that our coaches suck. They need those guys for info so publicly calling them out is not something they would do unless they knew it was true. And we may not sign a good portal class. Idk. Our coaching staff isn’t very good as it stands, so it would not surprise me. That doesn’t mean they lack money.
 

85Bears

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The people that cover us on the pay board have put it out. You can believe it or not, but I know them personally enough to know they are not lying. It also does not help them to put out that our coaches suck. They need those guys for info so publicly calling them out is not something they would do unless they knew it was true. And we may not sign a good portal class. Idk. Our coaching staff isn’t very good as it stands, so it would not surprise me. That doesn’t mean they lack money.
Recruiting = money. There is obviously a shortfall compared to sec peers. Coaching incompetence is a separate issue.

Are They still claiming MIKE leach is keeping Lebby from winning or has the polish worn off that turd of an excuse ?
 

anon1768925248

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Recruiting = money. There is obviously a shortfall compared to sec peers. Coaching incompetence is a separate issue.

Are They still claiming MIKE leach is keeping Lebby from winning or has the polish worn off that turd of an excuse ?
Money gets you in the door. You still have to recruit. It does no one any good to have a bidding war on every prospect. That resets the market and there are only a handful of schools that can afford to do that. There is a set range that most people stay in because they know if they drive up the price and reset the market, they may get this guy but it will hurt them and everyone else in the future. We are not getting beat on players due to money often at all.
I don’t know anyone still complaining about Leach. I’m sure some are, but he’s been dead for 3 years in an era where you can flip rosters in a year. None of what we are in is his fault in 2025.
 

85Bears

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Money gets you in the door. You still have to recruit. It does no one any good to have a bidding war on every prospect. That resets the market and there are only a handful of schools that can afford to do that. We are not getting beat on players due to money often at all.
That is complete BS my man, it’s all about money, every school in the sec with the exception of probably Arkansas can outspend us, thus outrecruit us. Just a fact.
 

85Bears

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You don’t know what you’re talking about and that’s ok. Have a good day.
I do know in 2025 nil/transfer portal era, recruiting is a bottom Line money affair. The old days of recruiting are not relevant in today’s market. It’s free agency.
 

anon1768925248

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I do know in 2025 nil/transfer portal era, recruiting is a bottom Line money affair. The old days of recruiting are not relevant in today’s market. It’s free agency.
It’s not that at all. You’re wrong. Money is equal on both sides a lot.
 

anon1768925248

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So, if we’re just sitting on this huge pile of money & literally can’t spend it because Lebby keeps 17ing it up, why haven’t we fired Lebby?
Now we are getting somewhere. Now you understand why some people are so mad and wanted him fired. In an era where you can flip rosters immediately, building is bullsh*t. He got the money he asked for and didn’t do enough with it. Also self sabotaged multiple games this year. We have made our bed so all we can do now is hope he figures it out.
 
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olblue

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Our payroll was about 18 million last year and we had millions more that we did not spend because our coaches could not sign players that were good enough to receive that type money so they banked it for this year and then fundraised on top of that. Selmon is doing his job in that area. It’s why so many are pissed at Lebby. He asked for resources, got them, and has pissed them away with buddy hires that can’t recruit. He needs to get a staff that knows what they are doing on the recruiting trail. This isn’t instacart. The money is equal on both sides a lot and you still have to recruit when that happens. Outside the handful of schools that have unlimited NIL, everyone else makes an offer just to get them in the door to talk to the kid. It’s like a cover charge to get in the door. After that you just recruit the same as always.
You can’t be this gullible. Or maybe you can.
 

anon1768925248

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So your source is message board chatter? With all due respect, don’t believe that ****.
My source is someone who talks to the guy who runs our financials in NIL on a very regular basis. The disconnect on this board from the reality of the situation is insane. What good does it do for the people who rely on information from coaches to trash them and say they can’t recruit? They would not do that if it were not true. It’s not good for their business.
 

patdog

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May 28, 2007
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So your source is message board chatter? With all due respect, don’t believe that ****.
I don’t know man. I find it completely believable that Charlie is opening up all the inside info (that they guard like Ft Knox) to a couple of people who are going to run & post it on the pay board so it can be repeated in the free boards. I mean that’s completely believable. Right? **
 

85Bears

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My source is someone who talks to the guy who runs our financials in NIL on a very regular basis. The disconnect on this board from the reality of the situation is insane. What good does it do for the people who rely on information from coaches to trash them and say they can’t recruit? They would not do that if it were not true. It’s not good for their business.
It also wouldn’t be good for business to concede it’s all about money now and we have less money than every body else, subscribers might lose hope and stop subscribing. So it might be better for business to peddle BS like we are sitting on a huge pile of money and we don’t sign good players because we aren’t good salesman nd it’s really not about a lack of money.
 
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anon1768925248

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I don’t know man. I find it completely believable that Charlie is opening up all the inside info (that they guard like Ft Knox) to a couple of people who are going to run & post it on the pay board so it can be repeated in the free boards. I mean that’s completely believable. Right? **
The USM coach knew how much money we spent on our OL/DL this year. It’s not secret information. The OM NIL director went on Sportstalk MS last August and told everyone how much they spent on their roster.
 

anon1768925248

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It also wouldn’t be good for business to concede it’s all about money now and we have less money than every body else, subscribers might lose hope and stop subscribing. So it might be better for business to peddle BS like we are sitting on a huge pile of money and we don’t sign good players because we aren’t good salesman nd it’s really not about a lack of money.
That is certainly a possibility. I guess the number that they threw out about what we had available last year and the USM coach putting out nearly identical to what they said later on was just a good guess then? Or maybe you don’t know what you’re talking about and they do because that’s their job.
 

olblue

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My source is someone who talks to the guy who runs our financials in NIL on a very regular basis. The disconnect on this board from the reality of the situation is insane. What good does it do for the people who rely on information from coaches to trash them and say they can’t recruit? They would not do that if it were not true. It’s not good for their business.
No competent fund manager is going to share competitive market and financial data with someone who is going to post it on a ******* message board. Whoever that guy is, he probably wouldn’t appreciate some clown on a message board insinuating that he is not compliant in his profession.
 
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85Bears

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That is certainly a possibility. I guess the number that they threw out about what we had available last year and the USM coach putting out nearly identical to what they said later on was just a good guess then? Or maybe you don’t know what you’re talking about and they do because that’s their job.
Oh yea, they are a fount of super secret info. just like the old genes page bro club. I remember how Arnett, Will Friend and Barbay were going to set the sec on fire and be a huge improvemenT over Mike Leach, how’d that work out ?
 
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anon1768925248

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No competent fund manager is going to share competitive market and financial data with someone who is going to post it on a ******* message board. Whoever that guy is, he probably wouldn’t appreciate some clown on a message board insinuating that he is not compliant in his profession.
The OM fund manager put it out on statewide radio.