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anon1768925248

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Oh yea, they are a fount of super secret info. just like the old genes page bro club. I remember how Arnett, Will Friend and Barbay were going to set the sec on fire and be a huge improvemenT over Mike Leach, how’d that work out ?
Someone missing on a prediction is a lot different than someone knowing the interworkings of the NIL system due to them being in the middle of it and having to know for their job. This is literally what they do for a living. You don’t know what you’re talking about. At all. You have no idea about the process of any of this. At all.
 

anon1768925248

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Maybe he did. And maybe he put out what he wanted everyone to hear.
He put out a lot of what I’m saying as far as the general idea of how all of this works. We have multiple people that run NIL collectives saying the same thing and then we have people who talk to that person saying things that back it up but you know better because you’re just smarter than everyone else. No info to go on. Zero research done outside of surface level thinking. You just know it. Glad we cleared that up.
 

85Bears

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Someone missing on a prediction is a lot different than someone knowing the interworkings of the NIL system due to them being in the middle of it and having to know for their job. This is literally what they do for a living. You don’t know what you’re talking about. At all. You have no idea about the process of any of this. At all.
I know we are at a severe financial disadvantage compared to other SEC schools and this isn’t debatable to anyone with a modicum of sense. Transfer Portal era is simply about money. Texas Tech doesn’t have super salesman, they have a billionaire booster named Cody Campbell.
 
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anon1768925248

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I know we are at a severe financial disadvantage compared to other SEC schools and this isn’t debatable to anyone with a modicum of sense. Transfer Portal era is simply about money. Texas Tech doesn’t have super salesman, they have a billionaire booster named Cody Campbell.
You keep bringing up a handful of teams. Yes, Texas tech just buys everyone. So do a few others. We are losing recruits to people that don’t have more money than us. No one is complaining about us getting outbid for recruits by schools with billionaires. But that is being used as a crutch for losing recruits that we are not getting outbid for. A high 3 star / low 4 star with offers from Kentucky, Arkansas, Missouri, and Mississippi State not choosing us is because our coaches suck at recruiting. Not because we are poor. You can continue to be misinformed if you want to be.
 

85Bears

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You keep bringing up a handful of teams. Yes, Texas tech just buys everyone. So do a few others. We are losing recruits to people that don’t have more money than us. No one is complaining about us getting outbid for recruits by schools with billionaires. But that is being used as a crutch for losing recruits that we are not getting outbid for. A high 3 star / low 4 star with offers from Kentucky, Arkansas, Missouri, and Mississippi State not choosing us is because our coaches suck at recruiting. Not because we are poor. You can continue to be misinformed if you want to be.
Can you list the SEC schools we have more money than ? It’s a short list and proves my point
 
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anon1768925248

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Can you list the SEC schools we have more money than ? It’s a short list and proves my point
30 million dollars would have been more than good enough for a playoff roster this year. Alabama was at 20 million this year, per Nick Saban. That is barely more than we spent. But I’m sure he’s lying too. I’m sorry that your preconceived poor ole state notions are not true.
 

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30 million dollars would have been more than good enough for a playoff roster this year. Alabama was at 20 million this year, per Nick Saban. That is barely more than we spent. But I’m sure he’s lying too. I’m sorry that your preconceived poor ole state notions are not true.
Can you list the SEC schools we have more money than ? It’s a short list and proves my point.
 

anon1768925248

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Can you list the SEC schools we have more money than ? It’s a short list and proves my point.
I’m not going to do the work required to find out what each school has available to them in NIL. It’s pretty safe to assume that if we had the same money as 2 other teams reported to have this year in our league that made the playoffs, money is not the issue. It’s just a convenient excuse that people who don’t keep up with what’s actually going on use to make themselves feel better about us sucking. The biggest problem we have is that we have to pay a lot more than other schools do to get the same player because no one wants to go play for an unproven coaching staff that is on the hot seat if they are good enough to make a real difference on a team. Our offer to Coleman last year was more than what Missouri offered and he still left. Same with Zaivion to LSU.
 
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85Bears

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I’m not going to do the work required to find out what each school has available to them in NIL. It’s pretty safe to assume that if we had the same money as 2 other teams reported to have this year in our league that made the playoffs, money is not the issue. It’s just a convenient excuse that people who don’t keep up with what’s actually going on use to make themselves feel better about us sucking.
Whoa, so what two sec playoff teams did we have the same nil funding as .? Bama, Georgia, Oklahoma, ole Miss or Texas a and m .? Because that’s 0-5 there buddy
 

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Whoa, so what two sec playoff teams did we have the same nil funding as .? Bama, Georgia, Oklahoma, ole Miss or Texas an and m .? Because that’s 0-5 there buddy
Ole Miss and Alabama spent 20 million dollars on this year’s roster. We spent 18 and bankrolled more because we couldn’t get people worth the money to take it. When you go 2-10 and offer the same thing as OM and Alabama the kid is still going to the school that is going to the playoffs. This should be a very simple concept to grasp but somehow for you, it’s like rocket science.
 
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Ole Miss and Alabama spent 20 million dollars on this year’s roster. We spent 18 and bankrolled more because we couldn’t get people worth the money to take it. When you go 2-10 and offer the same thing as OM and Alabama the kid is still going to the school that is going to the playoffs. This should be a very simple concept to grasp but somehow for you, it’s like rocket science.
You are horribly misinformed. I hope you really don’t believe this.
 

anon1768925248

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You are horribly misinformed. I hope you really don’t believe this.
I’m literally regurgitating what Nick Saban and Walker Jones said publicly. You are getting destroyed because you’ve done zero research at all so you just continue to tell me I don’t know what I’m talking about while bringing zero facts from anyone or anywhere at all. Sometimes on the internet it really is ok for you just to bow out and admit that you don’t know what the 17 you’re talking about. You half *** keep up with what is going on and make sweeping generalizations and when someone who actually knows what they are talking about confronts you, you just attack them with zero substance.
 

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I’m literally regurgitating what Nick Saban and Walker Jones said publicly. You are getting destroyed because you’ve done zero research at all so you just continue to tell me I don’t know what I’m talking about while bringing zero facts from anyone or anywhere at all. Sometimes on the internet it really is ok for you just to bow out and admit that you don’t know what the 17 you’re talking about. I care about Stare. I keep up with this more than you ever thought about keeping up with it. Stop embarrassing yourself.
That’s laughable, everyone here knows we can’t hold a candle to Bamas NIL payroll. You are embarrassing yourself.
 

anon1768925248

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That’s laughable, everyone here knows we can’t hold a candle to Bamas NIL payroll. You are embarrassing yourself.
We literally did it this year. You don’t know what you’re talking about. You don’t know how recruiting works. You don’t know how NIL works. You just run your mouth and say things like what you just said in this post with zero to back it up. 20 million dollars goes a lot further at bama than it does here, because kids know they are going to win at Alabama. They don’t pay a premium on anyone the way we have to. You don’t know that because you are ignorant. You don’t subscribe anywhere that would inform you of this or know anyone that is in this entire process, but continue to have loud opinions anyway.
 

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DThe OM fund manager put it out on statewide radio.
Bobs Burgers Straws GIF
 
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85Bears

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We literally did it this year. You don’t know what you’re talking about. You don’t know how recruiting works. You don’t know how NIL works. You just run your mouth and say things like what you just said in this post with zero to back it up. 20 million dollars goes a lot further at bama than it does here, because kids know they are going to win. You don’t know that because you are ignorant. You don’t subscribe anywhere that would inform you of this, but continue to have loud opinions anyway.
Who is telling you we have as much nil money as Alabama ? Whoever it is , they are misleading you.
 

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Someone proved that I have no idea what I’m talking about so let me Post this meme to deflect from the fact that I make large opinions with zero knowledge and hopefully the conversation will forget the stupid sh*t I said!
 

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We could use Ryan Williams, he’s only making 2.3 million, let’s offer him 3 million, that shouldn’t be a problem then.
 

anon1768925248

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We could use Ryan Williams, he’s only making 2.3 million, let’s offer him 3 million, that shouldn’t be a problem then.
That’s the problem you don’t understand. Zavion and Coleman left anyway when we offered those types of deals to them (on a smaller scale). Our money does not buy the same players at the same rate as people who have good, well run programs. Our price tag for the same players is higher because believe it or not, those kids still want to win and get coached by people they think will get them to the NFL. When you go 2-10 and get blown out by Toledo, you don’t get good people without a tariff attached to them.
 
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That’s the problem you don’t understand. Zavion Williams and Coleman left anyway when we offered those types of deals to them (on a smaller scale). Our money does not buy the same players at the same rate as people who have good, well run programs. Our price tag for the same players is higher because believe it or not, those kids still want to win and get coached by people they think will get them to the NFL.
We offered Zavion 2.3 million ? I don’t think so. are you including Ty Simpson corporate sponsorships ? They amount to over 2.3 million a year, Bama can do that for a player and they don’t always show up on the books.

Kadyn Proctor could fix our problems at tackle, might be able to sign him for 1.5-2 million.
 

anon1768925248

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We offered Zavion 2.3 million ? I don’t think so. are you including Ty Simpson corporate sponsorships ? They amount to over 2.3 million a year, Bama can do that for a player and they don’t always show up on the books.

Kadyn Proctor could fix our problems at tackle, might be able to sign him for 1.5-2 million.
No, we offered him more than he got from LSU and he said no thanks. If it were as easy as offering Proctor that dollar amount we would sign him in the portal on day 1, but that’s not how it works.
 

85Bears

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No, we offered him more than he got from LSU and he said no thanks. If it were as easy as offering Proctor that dollar amount we would sign him in the portal on day 1, but that’s not how it works.
We don’t have the money or the corporate sponsorships Bama has. That should be obvious to anyone with a brain.

furthermore, if you really believed we had as much money as Bama, it would be literally insane to have Jeff Lebby as your head coach and hire back a disgraced Zach Arnett as DC. This would be like a billionaire living in a rusted out trailer without electricity.
 

anon1768925248

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We don’t have the money or the corporate sponsorships Bama has. That should be obvious to anyone with a brain.

furthermore, if you really believed we had as much money as Bama, it would be literally insane to have Jeff Lebby as your head coach and hire back a disgraced Zach Arnett as DC. This would be like a billionaire living in a rusted out trailer without electricity.
We do have the money they are currently spending. The reason they only have that much is because that’s all they need, which is my entire point. If they needed 50 million for a roster they would get 50 million, but they don’t need that because they can buy the same players with 20, for the most part. We have the same money others are spending. Our money just doesn’t go as far as theirs. If they decided to double their NIL budget they probably could if they really tried and we could not, but that’s not the question or what is going on.
 
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We do have the money they are currently spending. The reason they only have that much is because that’s all they need, which is my entire point. If they needed 50 million for a roster they would get 50 million, but they don’t need that because they can buy the same players with 20, for the most part. We have the same money others are spending. Our money just doesn’t go as far as theirs. If they decided to double their NIL budget they probably could if they really tried and we could not, but that’s not the question or what is going on.
So players are turning down more money just for the jersey ? It’s not really bout the money ? I’m sorry Shelby , you’ve been listening to the wrong people
 

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So players are turning down more money just for the jersey ? It’s not really bout the money ? I’m sorry Shelby , you’ve been listening to the wrong people
Sometimes, yes. Most of the time folks like Alabama don’t have to outbid anyone. They just offer equal to what everyone else is offering and that’s enough. People like Texas Tech have to out offer everyone because they are not a blue blood but they have more money than almost anyone and can afford to do that. I’m not listening to the wrong people.
 

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Sometimes, yes. Most of the time folks like Alabama don’t have to outbid anyone. They just offer equal to what everyone else is offering and that’s enough. People like Texas Tech have to out offer everyone because they are not a blue blood but they have more money than almost anyone and can afford to do that. I’m not listening to the wrong people.
the problem with your theory is we have the least money in the sec. money is literally no object to Texas Tech because Cody Campbell is a billionaire and a former tech player.

the answer is probably get a competent coaching staff who can evaluate talent. That hasn’t happened since leach passed away.
 

anon1768925248

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the problem with your theory is we have the least money in the sec. money is literally no object to Texas Tech because Cody Campbell is a billionaire and a former tech player.

the answer is probably get a competent coaching staff who can evaluate talent. That hasn’t happened since leach passed away.
I agree on the coaching staff. It’s been the biggest issue the last few years.
 

anon1768925248

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Another thing, Ole Miss has had the second smallest budget in the SEC for the past 100 years. Do you think they are just outspending everyone to get these players that have won them 10 or more games these last 4/5 years? No, they are not. The first year or 2 they were more organized and did have more than a lot of people but now they are no bigger than anyone else. They just had a proven coach that big time players wanted to play for. They did not offer more money than the other big time programs wanting those players.