you still think Croom is the dumbest coach in the SEC? That's the dumbest **** I have ever heard.
Way to get that practice time in Croom!!
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It's getting to the point where the subject can't be discussed rationally. I can't speak for anyone else, but I think it ought to be CLEARLY understood that the VAST MAJORITY of folks questioning Croom are NOT arguing that the man is retarded. Anyone who is arguing that he's "stupid" is stupid themselves. The man is not mentally challenged. The man IS incompetent ... and there is a WORLD of difference.
My mechanic is competent. In fact, he's a helluva mechanic. But he sucks at finance and, therefore, finds himself scrambling to keep his damn shop open for business. I wouldn't trust him with a checkbook any further than I could throw his scrawny ***. This is Croom. He is a HELLUVA speaker and alumni motivator. He is extraordinary one-on-one. He is the most loyal MFer on campus. But he's average pretty much everywhere else, especially on gameday and ESPECIALLY making in-game decisions. Doesn't make him dumb/stupid/retarded. Just makes him incompetent.
My mechanic is competent. In fact, he's a helluva mechanic. But he sucks at finance and, therefore, finds himself scrambling to keep his damn shop open for business. I wouldn't trust him with a checkbook any further than I could throw his scrawny ***. This is Croom. He is a HELLUVA speaker and alumni motivator. He is extraordinary one-on-one. He is the most loyal MFer on campus. But he's average pretty much everywhere else, especially on gameday and ESPECIALLY making in-game decisions. Doesn't make him dumb/stupid/retarded. Just makes him incompetent.
"Rebounding Fundamentals."-If you watched the Memphis game, you saw what I was talking about all year. If we block out better as a team, we win. That's what I was preaching all Rule 17 year!! Great athletes have to block out against other great athletes to rebound consistently. After the Memphis loss, I didn't come on here like Coach would and brag about how I was right about our rebounding. I thought we played hard and the season was over. No reason to belabor a point I was right about. But if you continue to point that out, I will continue to point out that I was correct.
"I hope we lose every game."-NEVER ONCE said that. I said that I hope we lose to SELA. A win in that game did nothing. A loss would have helped speed up the change we ALL desire. In the Auburn thread, I specifically said I hope we win. A loss against Auburn does nothing to speed up the change we ALL desire. A win proves that I (and many others) are completely wrong about Croom and that he deserves all the accolades he received last year. I would prefer us not to have to change coaches but I'm 95% certain that's not the case.
"Croom missed practice."-I'm sorry. I think that's unacceptable. I don't care if the great coaches don't go to practice. Croom is certainly not a great coach. Nor has he proven that he has a competent staff that can run practice when he is not there.
That is all.
"I hope we lose every game."-NEVER ONCE said that. I said that I hope we lose to SELA. A win in that game did nothing. A loss would have helped speed up the change we ALL desire. In the Auburn thread, I specifically said I hope we win. A loss against Auburn does nothing to speed up the change we ALL desire. A win proves that I (and many others) are completely wrong about Croom and that he deserves all the accolades he received last year. I would prefer us not to have to change coaches but I'm 95% certain that's not the case.
"Croom missed practice."-I'm sorry. I think that's unacceptable. I don't care if the great coaches don't go to practice. Croom is certainly not a great coach. Nor has he proven that he has a competent staff that can run practice when he is not there.
That is all.
So we could win 7, 8, 9 games this year and you say he would still be the worst coach in teh SEC? Do you not realize how stupid you sound or do you just not care?fishwater99 said:
And I love how you are already setting up it that if we some how beat Auburn it will all be luck
We were 2nd in the SEC in rebounding and tied for 10th in division 1 in rebounding. If we were bad at rebounding fundamentals, we wouldn't be in the top 10 in the country in rebounding. Way to prove your "lacking rebounding fundamentals" by using 1 game and disregarding the rest of the season. </p>
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Nah this is what you said, which sounds like you were pulling for us to lose every game. Also, losing to Auburn does nothing to speed up the change, but did you ever consider beating Auburn would slow down the speed of change? Hmmm... Think about that for a while.
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So, it's unacceptable if he's out recruiting trying to bring in the best athletes, so we can continue our success off of last year? You are a complete moron. That is all...
1. You are changing what I was saying. Never said we didn't have great athletes that could jump out of the gym. My point was we didn't block out very well. Against teams with similar athletes across the board, we didn't win the rebounding margin. Go back to the teams we played with similar pure athletes(not similar basketball players)-Arkansas, UT, Memphis. From what I can remember, Ole Miss outrebounded us twice as well. I'm not reopening that argument. Our season ended because we didn't block out.
2. Again, you can lie about it. But I never said I hope we lose every game. If we beat Auburn, of course it will delay the change and it should. If Croom beats Auburn twice in a row then it proves that La Tech was a fluke, AND that last season was NOT a fluke. If we beat Auburn, you would think we would get 6 wins as well. At this point in this season and looking at our schedule, 6 wins would be a huge success and IMO would also prove that Tech was a fluke AND that last season was NOT a fluke. Even if we lose to Auburn and somehow get 6 wins, the season is a success. I want us to succeed. Let me say that one more time. If Croom wins 6 games after the Tech debacle, then the season is a huge success and we have a winner IMO.
But seriously, if you knew that Croom wasn't going to win more than 4 games this year, wouldn't you prefer a 1-11 season to a 4-7 one? That will be the easiest way to get him out of there. If we can beat Auburn, we are back on track and the season is right back on schedule. Confidence will be there to win 6. But if we lose, we are staring 1-4 in the face. If we are 1-4 after LSU, that's when I start hoping for losses. Add an Ole Miss, Bama, and UT loss and we are looking at 1-7(Those games don't look very good right now). So we would have to beat Vandy, UK, MTSU, Arkansas just to get to 5-7. That makes me want to vomit.
2. Again, you can lie about it. But I never said I hope we lose every game. If we beat Auburn, of course it will delay the change and it should. If Croom beats Auburn twice in a row then it proves that La Tech was a fluke, AND that last season was NOT a fluke. If we beat Auburn, you would think we would get 6 wins as well. At this point in this season and looking at our schedule, 6 wins would be a huge success and IMO would also prove that Tech was a fluke AND that last season was NOT a fluke. Even if we lose to Auburn and somehow get 6 wins, the season is a success. I want us to succeed. Let me say that one more time. If Croom wins 6 games after the Tech debacle, then the season is a huge success and we have a winner IMO.
But seriously, if you knew that Croom wasn't going to win more than 4 games this year, wouldn't you prefer a 1-11 season to a 4-7 one? That will be the easiest way to get him out of there. If we can beat Auburn, we are back on track and the season is right back on schedule. Confidence will be there to win 6. But if we lose, we are staring 1-4 in the face. If we are 1-4 after LSU, that's when I start hoping for losses. Add an Ole Miss, Bama, and UT loss and we are looking at 1-7(Those games don't look very good right now). So we would have to beat Vandy, UK, MTSU, Arkansas just to get to 5-7. That makes me want to vomit.
if Croom brings home 9 this year and fishwater still says Croom's stupid, even assuming that he's inartfully suggesting that he's incompetent, then, yes, I will be the first to stand up and shout that fishwater is not just stupid, but I'll go further and say that fishwater is the stupidest MFer on the board, C34 notwithstanding.
...saying that you hope we have an absolute disaster of a season is essentially making the same point. Losing every game = absolute disaster. Losing every game but one or two = absolute disaster. Same difference. You're caught. Just admit it was idiotic to post that. One game in to the season, coming off of 8-5.
And if we can't go bowling, I am interested in winning the number of games that would cause us to lose the least amount of recruits. Is 5 wins acceptable? Nope, and if that happens, then I hope we hold on to as many recruits as we can for the future of MSU football, whether or not Croom turns it around in 2009 or those recruits play for a different coach. This class is very important to hang on to, in my opinion.
And if we can't go bowling, I am interested in winning the number of games that would cause us to lose the least amount of recruits. Is 5 wins acceptable? Nope, and if that happens, then I hope we hold on to as many recruits as we can for the future of MSU football, whether or not Croom turns it around in 2009 or those recruits play for a different coach. This class is very important to hang on to, in my opinion.
It is a moot point because no way we win more than six games this year.
If we win 8 or 9 then you can call me dumb, but I can't understand how and why you people defend Croom.
Croom is not the smartest coach...
Not smart = dumb
How can I say this, because it is true.
A smart coach would hire a good offensive coordinator, not his long time buddy.
A smart coach would try a different offense if his team keeps finishing around 100 in the nation in total offense.
A smart coach would not overlook LA Tech and have his team prepared for the game...
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If we win 8 or 9 then you can call me dumb, but I can't understand how and why you people defend Croom.
Croom is not the smartest coach...
Not smart = dumb
How can I say this, because it is true.
A smart coach would hire a good offensive coordinator, not his long time buddy.
A smart coach would try a different offense if his team keeps finishing around 100 in the nation in total offense.
A smart coach would not overlook LA Tech and have his team prepared for the game...
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If you read my post correctly, I said worst coach in the SEC.
Worst = dumb, maybe so...
All you're doing with this argument is giving fodder to those who want to dismiss legitimate arguments that he's not qualified as purely racist rants. There is a legitimate argument that the man is incompetent (i.e., not qualified), but to smear the man as stupid or dumb or retarded plays right into the hands of people who have the power to keep him employed beyond his skill level in the name of "fairness."
Stop being a stupid f'n redneck.
You're an incompetent poster.
Stop being a stupid f'n redneck.
You're an incompetent poster.
I said Croom was the worst coach in the SEC.
If we win 9 games this year, then I will change my opinion.
I just don't see Croom changing our offense and us winning more than six games, so can we say Croom is insane?
If we win 9 games this year, then I will change my opinion.
I just don't see Croom changing our offense and us winning more than six games, so can we say Croom is insane?
I guess you have no clue who I am, but the terms redneck and racist have never been used to describe me.[b said:
I agree that Croom is incompetent, but wouldn't you agree that a smart coach would make some changes?
insanity = Doing the same thing over and over expecting different results.
not the smartest to not smart?
I will tell you that I am not sold on Croom as a coach. But, I don't thnk the guy is dumb. I do think he is stubborn. I think he is loyal to his coaches.
I will tell you that I am not sold on Croom as a coach. But, I don't thnk the guy is dumb. I do think he is stubborn. I think he is loyal to his coaches.
that Croom is possibly an incompetent/dumb coach or whatever adjective you would like to call him. What I do find absurd is you saying you would still call him incompetent/dumb if he won 9 games this year.
I'm not changing anything. I'm just laying out facts while you are laying out your ******** opinion. We out rebounded Arkansas by 5 at home and they out rebounded us by 6 at their place. Ole Miss finished 7th (and only out rebounded us once) and Memphis finished 17th in D1 rebounding. Also, Ole Miss had similar athletes? No, they just had big m'17ers that could get position. Our season ended, because for once in his life, Dorsey decided to 17ing play great basketball. You act like we got out rebounded by a bunch of chumps, when that's not the case. Every team that you mentioned out rebounded us, because they were also good at rebounding.
Again I'm not lying but posting what you posted. You don't like it, then maybe you should tell yourself not to post stupid **** that can be brought back up to show that you are a dumbass. Also notice how you have gone from "nothing can change my perception of him, except a SEC West title," to "6 wins is a success." And we say Goat is bipolar
But I'm sure you had much better partners than I did then too. Honesty does compel me to admit that, while it's true that you've never beaten me in singles, it's also true that we've never actually played each other in singles. But I'm game for it whenever you are. I'm generally free on Tuesday and Wednesday nights
Would a smart coach have his team ready to play ULM at home and beat them? Surely Saban is not a dumb coach. **** happens and you lose games you are not supposed to. It happensfishwater99 said:
But somehow it just happens a lot more to MSU with Croom as the coach.
Maine, UAB, Houston, Tulane, and now LA Tech...
Who will be next??
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Maine, UAB, Houston, Tulane, and now LA Tech...
Who will be next??
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