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[scotchtiger]

I mean this doesn't really address the point he was making about the lower classes supporting the re-distribution of wealth from the bottom to the top because they've been trained to hate the side that benefits them more, but I'm glad you could get that off your chest.

I didn’t listen and stopped reading when I saw the billionaire stupidity mentioned. For the 1000th time, raising taxes on people making $400K has nothing to do with the 902 billionaires in the US. It’s the dumbest fvcking argument that keeps getting repeated by room temp IQ people who believe it and leftists who want to deceive and mislead the general population.

 

[scotchtiger]

Covid insanity showed us who the left really is with this stuff. After living in a red state during that while watching friends and coworkers in blue states, there is absolutely no question in my mind which party I trust more with government overreach, censorship, cancel culture, common sense, etc. There is zero doubt that life was better under Republican control and we now know many of the draconian measures forced by the left hurt society.

 

[CUTiger1977]

 

[jhallen]

Covid insanity showed us who the left really is with this stuff. After living in a red state during that while watching friends and coworkers in blue states, there is absolutely no question in my mind which party I trust more with government overreach, censorship, cancel culture, common sense, etc. There is zero doubt that life was better under Republican control and we now know many of the draconian measures forced by the left hurt society.

Correct. San Francisco. ..Newsome...and New York..Cuomo. .the covid measures were absolute totalitarianism..

Mandatory shots required to dine in...to work in some places..to attend concerts....quarantine for the healthy... that and shaming those who.opted out...it was tyrannical and we need to all LEARN from this....

Also..the 'everything you say is racist' crowd is nothing more than censorship...communism... and a limitation of constitutional rights...specifically the 1st..under the guise of morality

 

[baltimorened]

I mean this doesn't really address the point he was making about the lower classes supporting the re-distribution of wealth from the bottom to the top because they've been trained to hate the side that benefits them more, but I'm glad you could get that off your chest.

OK, not totally related, but the WSJ had a good article yesterday that broke down the impacts of the new OBBB on the various income classes. It has fodder for whatever side you want to take in the argument/debate....the lower earners get a higher % but the higher earners get more dollars. All of which makes sense, because a 1% reduction in rates for a $35,000 earner is less that the same % reduction for an earner of $350,000.

But, I don't think that's the debate (I may be wrong). It seems to me the debate is over the "net worth", for want of a better term, of some Americans vis a vis others. There's no doubt that we have this wealth discrepancy, there has always been one, and likely will always. So the question is how do we get the lower group higher. It seems to be that the left's solution is to reduce the wealth of the higher group by giving it to the lower. And, the right's is to somehow get the lower into higher echelons. Now, I agree that it might be easier just to take from the wealthy and give to the "average. it always seems more difficult to increase earnings than just take from someone else. But, so far, we don't have a way to do that other than through income taxes - we don't have a wealth tax - and there aren't many Americans earning $$1 billion/year. Right now the higher 10% of earners pay the lion's share of taxes (income as low as $192,000) - about 72%. That's a pretty telling statistic, iMO.

Anyway, I think the debate needs to change. To me, at least, when 10% of people are paying 70% of the taxes, there isn't a lot of room for outrage. Especially when $192,000 salary doesn't make you rich. Rather the debate needs to center more on wealth - if we really want to tax someone for their success - and even then what becomes the start point $1million, $100million, $1billion ( there aren't many of them). I don't have the answer. But, provides room for discussion.

 

[dpic73]

When you run out of arguments, just start with “Holy Hyperbole Batman” and accuse your opponent of propaganda while pretending that smugness = substance. Let’s take your mess apart, one delusion at a time.

1. “No one was blacklisted for stating biological truths or questioning lockdowns.”
You must have slept through 2020–2022. Here’s a short list:

• Dr. Jay Bhattacharya, Stanford professor and co-author of the Great Barrington Declaration, was shadowbanned on Twitter for opposing lockdowns—later confirmed in the Twitter Files.
• Dr. Martin Kulldorff, Harvard epidemiologist, was censored and restricted on social media for saying children didn’t need COVID vaccines.
• Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying, evolutionary biologists, were demonetized and suppressed on YouTube for discussing lab-leak theory and ivermectin—both of which were eventually considered plausible by mainstream outlets.
• Regular Americans, including teachers, nurses, and police officers, lost jobs for refusing vaccine mandates... even if they had natural immunity or religious objections.

So yes, people were blacklisted. Not for violence, not for hate speech... for dissenting from narrative-approved science. But I get it—you missed that because it wasn’t on CNN’s chyron that day.

2. “The intelligence agents didn’t say the laptop wasn’t real.”
Spare me. The purpose of the letter signed by 51 former intel officials was to plant doubt, to create the illusion that the laptop was Russian disinfo without actually making a claim they could be held accountable for. That’s what we call a deliberate lie by omission. And guess what? It worked. The story was actively suppressed by Facebook and Twitter within days, the New York Post was locked out of its account, and polls show a significant number of voters had no idea about the laptop’s contents before the election.

That’s called election interference by proxy. You don’t have to believe it came from Moscow... you just have to follow the impact. But hey, when a lie serves your political tribe, I guess it’s not really a lie, right?

3. “Parents weren’t labeled domestic terrorists.”
Garland’s DOJ directed the FBI to use counterterrorism resources to investigate “threats” against school board members... based on a letter from the NSBA that literally compared concerned parents to domestic terrorists. The memo was vague enough to chill speech, and internal emails showed DOJ officials coordinated with the White House before the letter was even sent.

And don’t pretend there wasn’t abuse. FBI whistleblowers later revealed that agents were instructed to flag cases related to school board incidents, no matter how minor, and track them using terrorism tags. But hey, as long as Merrick Garland said “we’re not targeting speech,” that makes it all fine, right?

4. “Free speech is only under assault now.”
You’re out of your depth here. Under the previous administration (read: Biden’s), we had:

• The DHS’s “Disinformation Governance Board” (yes, that was real).
• White House officials directly coordinating with Twitter and Facebook to suppress dissenting views on vaccines, masks, and the Hunter Biden laptop—also confirmed in the Twitter Files.
• Bank accounts frozen in Canada (Trudeau’s bestie move) for political donations.
• Demonetization and deplatforming of creators who expressed the “wrong” opinions... not hate speech, not violence, just wrongthink.

That’s not “dealing with misinformation.” That’s state-corporate censorship, and it absolutely harmed people... financially, socially, and professionally.

5. “Elon supports your wishes, so it’s moot.”
Ah yes... when a private company stops colluding with government actors, suddenly free speech isn’t under threat anymore? That’s rich. You didn’t care when people were silenced... you cared when you lost the mute button.

6. “Now Donnie wants to name ombudsmen, pull licenses, and threaten funding.”
You mean… demanding media accountability? Wow. Welcome to politics. Biden tried to create a Ministry of Truth and pressure tech companies to delete posts. Obama spied on journalists. The Pentagon flagged Twitter users for COVID opinions. But now Trump criticizes media bias and you act like it’s 1984.

No one’s shutting anyone down. If publicly funded platforms and broadcast stations are lying, yes... there’s going to be pressure to clean house. You may call it extortion. The rest of us call it accountability.

7. “Thoughts and Prayers” for that thing that never happened to you.
Oh it happened... to millions of Americans. They were censored, silenced, demonetized, fired, and slandered. But because it didn’t happen to you, you think it’s fake. That says everything.

So here’s your reality check:
You didn’t rebut my points... you just rationalized your side’s abuses by calling them “rational responses.” You think your censorship is safety and their speech is extremism. That’s not logic. That’s authoritarian cosplay wrapped in a smug tone.

You’re not defending free speech. You’re defending power... and now you’re mad you don’t control the narrative anymore.

Tough break.

How about if I start my reply with Holy_ Wall of text_ChaptGPT instead, does that sound better? I've figured about your ploy now - you try to overwhelm your opponents with a hundred bullet points wrapped in pretty words so that when they don't feel like spending half their day responding to your haughty dissertations, you can call it a win.

I could and can break down your hyper-partisan talking points with rebuttals but that will just lead to more walls of texts until you can exhaust me, so I'll keep it short.

As for the laptop story, you call it a deliberate lie by omission and election interference by proxy and I will counter that's exactly what the Right was doing by planting the story three weeks out from the election. A story that shouldn't have mattered regardless because Hunter was a private citizen and there was nothing on it that implicated Joe in any crimes whatsover, big guy - nothing. What a crime it would have been if he lost the election because of the implication of a crime that didn't exist, so lol at the nonsense that voters didn't know about the contents - they did because we all heard the part that was supposed to be incriminating, but wasn't..in other words, there ws nothing to know about it that could or should have affected the election. And for the record, The Post story wasn't removed from Twitter, they just disabled it from being shared for a few short days, that's it.

As for point #6, I'm rolling my eyes hard about it being media accountability instead of extortion because we're talking about freedom of the press, a core tenet of democracy being suppressed because a tangerine potato had his feelings hurt and wants revenge. Just because Biden did a few things you didn't like, even if misguided, that's not a good excuse to stifle all media critical of the president by crushing them with the full weight of the government.

Your president is a legit anti-democratic psychopath





I stand by everything I said

 

[dpic73]

I didn’t listen and stopped reading when I saw the billionaire stupidity mentioned. For the 1000th time, raising taxes on people making $400K has nothing to do with the 902 billionaires in the US. It’s the dumbest fvcking argument that keeps getting repeated by room temp IQ people who believe it and leftists who want to deceive and mislead the general population.

In the clip I posted, Kinzinger didn't say billionaires, he said the very rich, which you would have known if you listened.

 

[dpic73]

Covid insanity showed us who the left really is with this stuff. After living in a red state during that while watching friends and coworkers in blue states, there is absolutely no question in my mind which party I trust more with government overreach, censorship, cancel culture, common sense, etc. There is zero doubt that life was better under Republican control and we now know many of the draconian measures forced by the left hurt society.

When the next unexpected pandemic comes along, hopefully we'll know everything about it before it starts, even though we'll be unaware of it, so we don't do anything that angers conservatives. You know, the side that cares strongly about public health lol.

 

[dpic73]

Not so fast LOL

 

[Weapon_X]

How about if I start my reply with Holy_ Wall of text_ChaptGPT instead, does that sound better? I've figured about your ploy now - you try to overwhelm your opponents with a hundred bullet points wrapped in pretty words so that when they don't feel like spending half their day responding to your haughty dissertations, you can call it a win.

I could and can break down your hyper-partisan talking points with rebuttals but that will just lead to more walls of texts until you can exhaust me, so I'll keep it short.

As for the laptop story, you call it a deliberate lie by omission and election interference by proxy and I will counter that's exactly what the Right was doing by planting the story three weeks out from the election. A story that shouldn't have mattered regardless because Hunter was a private citizen and there was nothing on it that implicated Joe in any crimes whatsover, big guy - nothing. What a crime it would have been if he lost the election because of the implication of a crime that didn't exist, so lol at the nonsense that voters didn't know about the contents - they did because we all heard the part that was supposed to be incriminating, but wasn't..in other words, there ws nothing to know about it that could or should have affected the election. And for the record, The Post story wasn't removed from Twitter, they just disabled it from being shared for a few short days, that's it.

As for point #6, I'm rolling my eyes hard about it being media accountability instead of extortion because we're talking about freedom of the press, a core tenet of democracy being suppressed because a tangerine potato had his feelings hurt and wants revenge. Just because Biden did a few things you didn't like, even if misguided, that's not a good excuse to stifle all media critical of the president by crushing them with the full weight of the government.

Your president is a legit anti-democratic psychopath





I stand by everything I said

Another classic tactic: when someone smarter than you presents logic, facts, and receipts, just whine “ChatGPT!” as if using correct grammar and sound arguments is somehow suspicious. Nothing screams insecurity or being out of your intellectual depth like resorting to ad hominem nonsense because you can’t actually refute a word I said.

So no, “Holy Wall of Text, ChatGPT!” isn’t a flex... it’s a confession that you got outclassed and don’t have the stamina or substance to keep up.

Now, let’s clean up your mess:

Hunter’s laptop: You say it “shouldn’t have mattered” because Hunter is a private citizen. Wrong. The issue wasn’t just the drugs, hookers, or selfies... it was the emails showing coordination between Hunter’s business deals and his father’s influence as VP. “10% for the Big Guy” wasn’t scribbled in crayon. The laptop linked to actual meetings, money transfers, and shell companies that do point toward corruption. Joe Biden lied... repeatedly... about knowing nothing of Hunter’s business. That lie matters. You don’t get to wave it off because it’s politically inconvenient.

And saying voters “already knew” is absurd when the most-read story in the country was actively throttled by Twitter, flagged by Facebook, and smeared as Russian disinfo by 51 “intel experts”... many of whom were working with or advising the Biden campaign. That’s not “just disabling shares for a few short days.” That’s targeted suppression at a critical moment, with polling afterward showing enough voters said it could have changed their vote to flip the outcome. But hey... let’s pretend that’s no big deal.

On “media accountability = extortion”: Cry harder. If a media outlet takes public money or hides behind FCC protections, it’s well within bounds for an administration to demand transparency and accuracy. Biden’s team coordinated with Big Tech to remove posts, flag users, and silence dissent... and you said nothing. Now when Trump suggests naming an ombudsman, suddenly it’s a threat to democracy? Please. You only care about “freedom of the press” when your side controls it.

And let’s talk about this “anti-democratic psychopath” routine. Trump wants open debate. Your side wants censorship, deplatforming, and state-sponsored narrative enforcement. One of those is authoritarian... and it isn’t Trump.

Now to your desperate Twitter links:

• @RpsAgainstTrump: a burner account that posts ragebait memes and “owns” for likes. Zero credibility. No sourcing. Just yelling into the void.
• Chuck Todd: The guy who said it wasn’t the media’s job to fact-check Democrats. If he’s your idea of neutral journalism, you’ve already lost the plot.
• ChrisO_wiki: an anonymous internet sleuth who makes long threads speculating about Russian psyops and who sees Putin under every couch cushion. Good for doomscrolling, not for credible analysis.

You linked to those accounts like they’re evidence. They’re not. They’re partisan noise designed to reinforce your worldview... not challenge it.

So next time, instead of accusing people of “using ChatGPT” because they make you feel outmatched, maybe bring something other than emotional outbursts and Twitter randos. You want to play the big leagues? Show up with more than sarcasm, talking points, and a fragile ego.

 

[scotchtiger]

In the clip I posted, Kinzinger didn't say billionaires, he said the very rich, which you would have known if you listened.

Does he think the expanded standard deduction (used by 90% of taxpayers, benefiting all of them), increased child tax credit, not increasing tax rates on brackets beginning at $12K of income for single filers, etc. only apply to the “very rich?” Because all of that goes away without extending Trump’s tax plan, which delivered meaningful savings to hardworking families.

Again, it’s a complete ******** argument.

 

[tigres88]

How about if I start my reply with Holy_ Wall of text_ChaptGPT instead, does that sound better? I've figured about your ploy now - you try to overwhelm your opponents with a hundred bullet points wrapped in pretty words so that when they don't feel like spending half their day responding to your haughty dissertations, you can call it a win.

Lol he responded to a conversation we were having yesterday with a MASSIVE wall of text, and before I could even reply, he responded to it again with another MASSIVE one. He's not even hiding he's using AI to formulate his responses anymore.

I thought at first he actually might be a lil smart, but he just feeds **** into chat gpt and posts it here as "his" response. We all use ai to fact check and **** but, to use it to actually reply and pawn it off as your own opinion is crazy work lol

 

[Weapon_X]

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If your entire worldview is shaped by ragebait from anonymous accounts, PAC-funded propaganda farms, and unhinged Twitter activists with emojis in their names, you’re not looking for the truth... you’re looking for comfort. These posts don’t inform... they sedate. They keep people high on outrage, low on facts, and blind to their own side’s corruption.

So no, those links aren’t receipts. They’re the social media version of shouting into a pillow and calling it a rebuttal. Come back when you have actual facts... not just likes and hashtags.

 

[Weapon_X]

Lol he responded to a conversation we were having yesterday with a MASSIVE wall of text, and before I could even reply, he responded to it again with another MASSIVE one. He's not even hiding he's using AI to formulate his responses anymore.

I thought at first he actually might be a lil smart, but he just feeds **** into chat gpt and posts it here as "his" response. We all use ai to fact check and **** but, to use it to actually reply and pawn it off as your own opinion is crazy work lol

Nothing says mental midget, unintelligent libtard, and useful idiot quite like resorting to the classic “you must be using ChatGPT” line the second someone dismantles your worldview with facts, logic, and a coherent argument you’re too emotionally fragile to counter.

 

[dpic73]

Another classic tactic: when someone smarter than you presents logic, facts, and receipts, just whine “ChatGPT!” as if using correct grammar and sound arguments is somehow suspicious. Nothing screams insecurity or being out of your intellectual depth like resorting to ad hominem nonsense because you can’t actually refute a word I said.

So no, “Holy Wall of Text, ChatGPT!” isn’t a flex... it’s a confession that you got outclassed and don’t have the stamina or substance to keep up.

Now, let’s clean up your mess:

Hunter’s laptop: You say it “shouldn’t have mattered” because Hunter is a private citizen. Wrong. The issue wasn’t just the drugs, hookers, or selfies... it was the emails showing coordination between Hunter’s business deals and his father’s influence as VP. “10% for the Big Guy” wasn’t scribbled in crayon. The laptop linked to actual meetings, money transfers, and shell companies that do point toward corruption. Joe Biden lied... repeatedly... about knowing nothing of Hunter’s business. That lie matters. You don’t get to wave it off because it’s politically inconvenient.

And saying voters “already knew” is absurd when the most-read story in the country was actively throttled by Twitter, flagged by Facebook, and smeared as Russian disinfo by 51 “intel experts”... many of whom were working with or advising the Biden campaign. That’s not “just disabling shares for a few short days.” That’s targeted suppression at a critical moment, with polling afterward showing enough voters said it could have changed their vote to flip the outcome. But hey... let’s pretend that’s no big deal.

On “media accountability = extortion”: Cry harder. If a media outlet takes public money or hides behind FCC protections, it’s well within bounds for an administration to demand transparency and accuracy. Biden’s team coordinated with Big Tech to remove posts, flag users, and silence dissent... and you said nothing. Now when Trump suggests naming an ombudsman, suddenly it’s a threat to democracy? Please. You only care about “freedom of the press” when your side controls it.

And let’s talk about this “anti-democratic psychopath” routine. Trump wants open debate. Your side wants censorship, deplatforming, and state-sponsored narrative enforcement. One of those is authoritarian... and it isn’t Trump.

Now to your desperate Twitter links:

• @RpsAgainstTrump: a burner account that posts ragebait memes and “owns” for likes. Zero credibility. No sourcing. Just yelling into the void.
• Chuck Todd: The guy who said it wasn’t the media’s job to fact-check Democrats. If he’s your idea of neutral journalism, you’ve already lost the plot.
• ChrisO_wiki: an anonymous internet sleuth who makes long threads speculating about Russian psyops and who sees Putin under every couch cushion. Good for doomscrolling, not for credible analysis.

You linked to those accounts like they’re evidence. They’re not. They’re partisan noise designed to reinforce your worldview... not challenge it.

So next time, instead of accusing people of “using ChatGPT” because they make you feel outmatched, maybe bring something other than emotional outbursts and Twitter randos. You want to play the big leagues? Show up with more than sarcasm, talking points, and a fragile ego.

Lord have mercy you're miserable but congrats on being smarter, though "wronger" than me.

He is using fascist tactics to destroy freedom of the press because they tell the truth about him and he doesn't like it. Being able to criticize the president without retribution is a true litmus test that defines a democracy so miss me with your cries about that thing Biden did so now we deserve to crush dissent.

And LOL at your focus on the twitter accounts instead of the ACTUAL words of the president and the FCC chairman. Only dumb people would think that was a smart retort.

 

[Weapon_X]

Lord have mercy you're miserable but congrats on being smarter, though "wronger" than me.

He is using fascist tactics to destroy freedom of the press because they tell the truth about him and he doesn't like it. Being able to criticize the president without retribution is a true litmus test that defines a democracy so miss me with your cries about that thing Biden did so now we deserve to crush dissent.

And LOL at your focus on the twitter accounts instead of the ACTUAL words of the president and the FCC chairman. Only dumb people would think that was a smart retort.

You’re clearly too dumb to understand what fascism actually is, so let me help you out: fascism involves state control over media, jailing dissenters, and criminalizing opposition... none of which Trump has done. Criticizing biased, state-funded outlets like NPR or threatening to cut their public gravy train isn’t fascism... it’s accountability. If your definition of “freedom of the press” includes tax-funded propaganda with zero oversight, you’ve already failed Civics 101.

Now, if you want to talk actual fascist tactics, look at Biden’s administration: colluding with Big Tech to silence critics, flagging posts for censorship, suppressing true stories like the Hunter laptop, and even trying to launch a Disinformation Governance Board to decide what Americans are “allowed” to say. That’s real government overreach... not a president calling out media corruption. You’re not fighting fascism... you’re just parroting headlines you don’t understand. Fascism has a definition. You clearly don’t know it.

 

[dpic73]

You’re clearly too dumb to understand what fascism actually is, so let me help you out: fascism involves state control over media, jailing dissenters, and criminalizing opposition... none of which Trump has done. Criticizing biased, state-funded outlets like NPR or threatening to cut their public gravy train isn’t fascism... it’s accountability. If your definition of “freedom of the press” includes tax-funded propaganda with zero oversight, you’ve already failed Civics 101.

Now, if you want to talk actual fascist tactics, look at Biden’s administration: colluding with Big Tech to silence critics, flagging posts for censorship, suppressing true stories like the Hunter laptop, and even trying to launch a Disinformation Governance Board to decide what Americans are “allowed” to say. That’s real government overreach... not a president calling out media corruption. You’re not fighting fascism... you’re just parroting headlines you don’t understand. Fascism has a definition. You clearly don’t know it.

You may think me dumb but I'm not stupid enough to fall for your nonsense that defines multi-million dollar settlements, a bias monitor being installed to ensure balance and threats to pull their broadcast licenses as "a president calling out media corruption." How soft, how pillowy and innocent that sounds compared to the governmental hobnail boot that's currently being used to crush their face. Youre lying to yourself if that's not state control of the media.

I don't care what adjective you disagree with, Trump is an abusive anti-American authoritarian - FACT.

 

[Kelbo]

@Weapon_X is cleaning house. These libs must feel very silly.

 

[Weapon_X]

You may think me dumb but I'm not stupid enough to fall for your nonsense that defines multi-million dollar settlements, a bias monitor being installed to ensure balance and threats to pull their broadcast licenses as "a president calling out media corruption." How soft, how pillowy and innocent that sounds compared to the governmental hobnail boot that's currently being used to crush their face. Youre lying to yourself if that's not state control of the media.

I don't care what adjective you disagree with, Trump is an abusive anti-American authoritarian - FACT.

You may not think you’re stupid, but your post is doing a hell of a job proving otherwise. A media watchdog to monitor fairness? A president calling out media lies? Legal settlements from defamation lawsuits? You’re seriously calling that “state control of the media”? That’s not a government boot on anyone’s neck... that’s basic accountability. You’re just too emotionally fragile to handle the idea that your side’s narrative gatekeepers are finally being challenged.

You scream “authoritarian” because Trump criticizes corrupt networks, but you were silent when Biden’s White House colluded with Big Tech to censor Americans, suppress the Hunter Biden story, and silence opposing views. They even tried to roll out a Disinformation Governance Board... an actual Ministry of Truth. That’s textbook state control. Trump pushing back on propaganda isn’t fascism... it’s long overdue. You’re not protecting the free press... you’re just mad the other side stopped playing defense.

 

[dpic73]

You may not think you’re stupid, but your post is doing a hell of a job proving otherwise. A media watchdog to monitor fairness? A president calling out media lies? Legal settlements from defamation lawsuits? You’re seriously calling that “state control of the media”? That’s not a government boot on anyone’s neck... that’s basic accountability. You’re just too emotionally fragile to handle the idea that your side’s narrative gatekeepers are finally being challenged.

You scream “authoritarian” because Trump criticizes corrupt networks, but you were silent when Biden’s White House colluded with Big Tech to censor Americans, suppress the Hunter Biden story, and silence opposing views. They even tried to roll out a Disinformation Governance Board... an actual Ministry of Truth. That’s textbook state control. Trump pushing back on propaganda isn’t fascism... it’s long overdue. You’re not protecting the free press... you’re just mad the other side stopped playing defense.

Yawn, you're such a bore. Sorry about that thing that Biden did that makes you feel justified in un-democratically crushing all dissent. Reminder, this is a democracy - don't at me with constitutional republic - we're still a democracy....or used to be. Now we're a backsliding one due to your support for a demented fascist.

 

[Weapon_X]

Yawn, you're such a bore. Sorry about that thing that Biden did that makes you feel justified in un-democratically crushing all dissent. Reminder, this is a democracy - don't at me with constitutional republic - we're still a democracy....or used to be. Now we're a backsliding one due to your support for a demented fascist.

The classic “Yawn” opener... because when you’re out of arguments, dismissiveness is all you’ve got. Sorry you’re bored, but facts tend to have that effect on people who can’t refute them.

And thanks for the civics lesson, but we’re a constitutional republic, not a mob-rule democracy where feelings dictate rights. That distinction matters... especially when you’re crying that “crushing dissent” means holding lying, partisan media accountable or pushing back on narrative manipulation. You want to talk about crushing dissent? Your side literally coordinated with Big Tech to silence Americans, suppressed a verified news story before an election, and labeled concerned parents as domestic threats. That’s actual authoritarianism.

You’re not defending democracy. You’re just mad your side lost the monopoly on controlling what counts as “truth.” Try again when you’ve got more than slogans and projection.

 

[dpic73]

The classic “Yawn” opener... because when you’re out of arguments, dismissiveness is all you’ve got. Sorry you’re bored, but facts tend to have that effect on people who can’t refute them.

And thanks for the civics lesson, but we’re a constitutional republic, not a mob-rule democracy where feelings dictate rights. That distinction matters... especially when you’re crying that “crushing dissent” means holding lying, partisan media accountable or pushing back on narrative manipulation. You want to talk about crushing dissent? Your side literally coordinated with Big Tech to silence Americans, suppressed a verified news story before an election, and labeled concerned parents as domestic threats. That’s actual authoritarianism.

You’re not defending democracy. You’re just mad your side lost the monopoly on controlling what counts as “truth.” Try again when you’ve got more than slogans and projection.

I would be sooo embarrassed to be such a smarmy sycophant for the most corrupt politician in American history, who easily earned the criticism he's received because it's legitimate. Pathological lying, dividing the country, bribing our allies to launch fake investigations and insurrections don't easily lend themselves to effusive praise. How do you not recognize that is a mystery to the rest of us as is how you even live with yourself, but I digress...

 

[Weapon_X]

I would be sooo embarrassed to be such a smarmy sycophant for the most corrupt politician in American history, who easily earned the criticism he's received because it's legitimate. Pathological lying, dividing the country, bribing our allies to launch fake investigations and insurrections don't easily lend themselves to effusive praise. How do you not recognize that is a mystery to the rest of us as is how you even live with yourself, but I digress...

You’d be embarrassed? You should be... you’re regurgitating every debunked narrative like a loyal NPC, mistaking media-fed hysteria for facts. “Bribing allies,” “insurrections,” “pathological lying”—all buzzwords, no receipts.

You call me a sycophant while you blindly parrot whatever partisan garbage makes you feel morally superior. The only thing you’ve exposed is your emotional instability and complete inability to argue on substance. Keep projecting... it’s the only thing you’re consistent at.

 

[iceheart08]

So I guess @Weapon_X is our first conservative AI bot on the message board? Unsurprisingly y'all are in love.

Go look at his writing. The patterns are pretty clear and very basic AI.

Lots of, it's not this it's that.

This is pretty obviously AI slop.

That’s not a government boot on anyone’s neck... that’s basic accountability.

You’re not protecting the free press... you’re just mad the other side stopped playing defense.

Every post of his has the same structure.

Lololol. I guess it's a low effort way to troll?

 

[Weapon_X]

So I guess @Weapon_X is our first conservative AI bot on the message board? Unsurprisingly y'all are in love.

Go look at his writing. The patterns are pretty clear and very basic AI.

Lots of, it's not this it's that.

This is pretty obviously AI slop.







Every post of his has the same structure.

Lololol. I guess it's a low effort way to troll?

Crazy how multiple posts from me can follow the same pattern… consistently exposing the foolishness and moral bankruptcy of the left. And no, I’m not AI or a bot. Just a real person outclassing the nonsense.

 

[iceheart08]

Crazy how multiple posts from me can follow the same pattern… consistently exposing the foolishness and moral bankruptcy of the left. And no, I’m not AI or a bot. Just a real person outclassing the nonsense.

Kinda silly to argue with an AI generated post. But, you do you man. Wish you'd honestly engage with the rest of us and stop being a dickhead. But... Alas.

 

[tigres88]

Kinda silly to argue with an AI generated post. But, you do you man. Wish you'd honestly engage with the rest of us and stop being a dickhead. But... Alas.

Lol some of his posts have literal numbers per point, bullet points per point, and bolded headers. It's so clearly AI its HILARIOUS.

 

[Weapon_X]

Kinda silly to argue with an AI generated post. But, you do you man. Wish you'd honestly engage with the rest of us and stop being a dickhead. But... Alas.

Classic leftist move...resort to name-calling and yelling into the void when faced with dissent. It doesn’t take much brainpower to try discrediting your opponent with noise instead of substance. But Alas....

 

[Weapon_X]

Lol some of his posts have literal numbers per point, bullet points per point, and bolded headers. It's so clearly AI its HILARIOUS.

If someone presents clear, structured arguments with facts, logic, and organization, it must be AI. Cope harder.

What’s actually hilarious is mistaking intelligence and clarity for something artificial... just because it’s foreign to you doesn’t mean it’s machine-generated.

 

[tigres88]

If someone presents clear, structured arguments with facts, logic, and organization, it must be AI. Cope harder.

What’s actually hilarious is mistaking intelligence and clarity for something artificial... just because it’s foreign to you doesn’t mean it’s machine-generated.

I mean, in our defense I've never seen a MAGA make an articulate, clear, structured and organized argument with logic. But alas...

 

[Weapon_X]

I mean, in our defense I've never seen a MAGA make an articulate, clear, structured and organized argument with logic. But alas...

Fair enough... but to be fair, most of us are too busy working, raising families, paying taxes, and not screaming at the sky in front of government buildings.

 

[firegiver]

It’s not about being “scared”... it’s about drawing a line when activism crosses into compelled speech, policy mandates, and the erosion of basic rights.

If it truly affected “only 0.05%,” then why the constant push for laws, mandates, and institutional enforcement that impact everyone else? Why are people losing jobs, licenses, or being dragged through court for not affirming something they don’t believe?

Saying “just leave them alone” goes both ways. If someone wants to live how they choose... fine. But when laws are passed to force others to comply, conform, or be silent, it’s no longer about personal freedom... it’s about ideological control.

Defending liberty means protecting all viewpoints, not just the ones you like.

Hey Im back after a nice vacation with the fam.
So I really am interested in how your rights have been eroded? You make that claim so I'd love to understand how you specifically, had your rights eroded.

What laws or mandates are people 'pushing for' that have you in a tiff?

How did anyone not 'leave you alone'?

Defending liberty means protecting all viewpoints????
hrmmm. What do you mean by this? you need to expand on it because here is where I am: Your rights end where another's begin. That is freedom and liberty. So if, for example, some Trans folks are reading to kids somewhere. That doesn't impede on your rights, but if you freak out and limit their freedom to do so because it hurts your world view, then you, have become the tyrant.

 

[tigres88]

Fair enough... but to be fair, most of us are too busy working, raising families, paying taxes, and not screaming at the sky in front of government buildings.

I really don't have it in me to go back in forth tonight as I finally just got the last of my children to bed, but the idea that people outside of maga don't work/have high paying jobs, have families, pay taxes, and only spend their time protesting is a little silly.

I thought they were the virtue signaling elites who are in bed with the deep state/jews to control the weather and have so much money they don't care about the common man actually?

Or are liberals just leeches who don't work and suck on the government teet?

Or are they just dumb sheep who have been bought and paid for by Obama?

The amount of labels MAGA has thrown at liberals over the years has gotten exhausting to even keep up with.

Maybe, just maybe, there are alot of intelligent people who work hard, raise families, pay their taxes, and really think the uncouth, racist signaling, Evangelical adjacent, 1950's obsessed party just isn't that great for America. Or their children. Or their family.

But nah, that can't be it. They just deep in the deep state.

 

[Kelbo]

So I guess @Weapon_X is our first conservative AI bot on the message board? Unsurprisingly y'all are in love.

Go look at his writing. The patterns are pretty clear and very basic AI.

Lots of, it's not this it's that.

This is pretty obviously AI slop.







Every post of his has the same structure.

Lololol. I guess it's a low effort way to troll?

-Feels silly.

haha

 

[TigerGrowls]

Glad to see you back on the board. Missed your input.

 

[TigerGrowls]

How about if I start my reply with Holy_ Wall of text_ChaptGPT instead, does that sound better? I've figured about your ploy now - you try to overwhelm your opponents with a hundred bullet points wrapped in pretty words so that when they don't feel like spending half their day responding to your haughty dissertations, you can call it a win.

I could and can break down your hyper-partisan talking points with rebuttals but that will just lead to more walls of texts until you can exhaust me, so I'll keep it short.

As for the laptop story, you call it a deliberate lie by omission and election interference by proxy and I will counter that's exactly what the Right was doing by planting the story three weeks out from the election. A story that shouldn't have mattered regardless because Hunter was a private citizen and there was nothing on it that implicated Joe in any crimes whatsover, big guy - nothing. What a crime it would have been if he lost the election because of the implication of a crime that didn't exist, so lol at the nonsense that voters didn't know about the contents - they did because we all heard the part that was supposed to be incriminating, but wasn't..in other words, there ws nothing to know about it that could or should have affected the election. And for the record, The Post story wasn't removed from Twitter, they just disabled it from being shared for a few short days, that's it.

As for point #6, I'm rolling my eyes hard about it being media accountability instead of extortion because we're talking about freedom of the press, a core tenet of democracy being suppressed because a tangerine potato had his feelings hurt and wants revenge. Just because Biden did a few things you didn't like, even if misguided, that's not a good excuse to stifle all media critical of the president by crushing them with the full weight of the government.

Your president is a legit anti-democratic psychopath





I stand by everything I said

Dpic...just give up. @Weapon_X is eating your lunch.

 

[TigerGrowls]

Another classic tactic: when someone smarter than you presents logic, facts, and receipts, just whine “ChatGPT!” as if using correct grammar and sound arguments is somehow suspicious. Nothing screams insecurity or being out of your intellectual depth like resorting to ad hominem nonsense because you can’t actually refute a word I said.

So no, “Holy Wall of Text, ChatGPT!” isn’t a flex... it’s a confession that you got outclassed and don’t have the stamina or substance to keep up.

Now, let’s clean up your mess:

Hunter’s laptop: You say it “shouldn’t have mattered” because Hunter is a private citizen. Wrong. The issue wasn’t just the drugs, hookers, or selfies... it was the emails showing coordination between Hunter’s business deals and his father’s influence as VP. “10% for the Big Guy” wasn’t scribbled in crayon. The laptop linked to actual meetings, money transfers, and shell companies that do point toward corruption. Joe Biden lied... repeatedly... about knowing nothing of Hunter’s business. That lie matters. You don’t get to wave it off because it’s politically inconvenient.

And saying voters “already knew” is absurd when the most-read story in the country was actively throttled by Twitter, flagged by Facebook, and smeared as Russian disinfo by 51 “intel experts”... many of whom were working with or advising the Biden campaign. That’s not “just disabling shares for a few short days.” That’s targeted suppression at a critical moment, with polling afterward showing enough voters said it could have changed their vote to flip the outcome. But hey... let’s pretend that’s no big deal.

On “media accountability = extortion”: Cry harder. If a media outlet takes public money or hides behind FCC protections, it’s well within bounds for an administration to demand transparency and accuracy. Biden’s team coordinated with Big Tech to remove posts, flag users, and silence dissent... and you said nothing. Now when Trump suggests naming an ombudsman, suddenly it’s a threat to democracy? Please. You only care about “freedom of the press” when your side controls it.

And let’s talk about this “anti-democratic psychopath” routine. Trump wants open debate. Your side wants censorship, deplatforming, and state-sponsored narrative enforcement. One of those is authoritarian... and it isn’t Trump.

Now to your desperate Twitter links:

• @RpsAgainstTrump: a burner account that posts ragebait memes and “owns” for likes. Zero credibility. No sourcing. Just yelling into the void.
• Chuck Todd: The guy who said it wasn’t the media’s job to fact-check Democrats. If he’s your idea of neutral journalism, you’ve already lost the plot.
• ChrisO_wiki: an anonymous internet sleuth who makes long threads speculating about Russian psyops and who sees Putin under every couch cushion. Good for doomscrolling, not for credible analysis.

You linked to those accounts like they’re evidence. They’re not. They’re partisan noise designed to reinforce your worldview... not challenge it.

So next time, instead of accusing people of “using ChatGPT” because they make you feel outmatched, maybe bring something other than emotional outbursts and Twitter randos. You want to play the big leagues? Show up with more than sarcasm, talking points, and a fragile ego.

THE MAN!!!